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KingsFan7824 said:
What matters more today, cap space and speed, or Cup rings from 3rd and 4th line guys? Maybe nobody wants them, maybe Lombardi and Sutter love them too much, maybe Lombardi is holding onto them until a young guy pushes them out the way King did when he got the job. Any one of those is possible. Maybe Mersch isn't that guy yet. Maybe they don't want Mersch playing because the more goals he scores in the NHL, the more he gets in the summer as a RFA.

Didn't Lombardi also say something about a 5 year plan back in Jan or Feb? Maybe the plan is to suck for a couple years, and to try not to waste the high picks.
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I don't think there is anyone on the farm close to ready for Top 6 NHL work as I don't think Kempe would come in and be productive: at least not at this time.

Anyone else that is "ready" for the NHL is probably not going to be a Top 6 forward. I love Mersch around the net, but he has to get there first.

So, yeah, we have Bottom 6 guys down in Ontario. There is no magic bullet. Since they probably wouldn't provide more than the known, veteran quantity that is already here, you send down the guys that are waiver exempt and just push ahead and hope the superstars on this team can carry them to a playoff spot.

Well, the Quick injury changes things. If they are essentially out of it, I think we will see a sell-off of these lower-tier guys in exchange for picks and maybe expansion draft eligible players (if that is allowed?). Helps free up a little bit of cap space as well if they move a Clifford or what have you for picks that can be used for the TT and TP extensions.

Going in to next year, you hope Kempe is ready to step in and contribute after probably getting a cup or even a pot of coffee later this year. Same goes for Gravel and LaDue. Go into next season with a fresh look and maybe even a new coach.

That Luc article in the business journal also touched on the 50th anniversary thing and that they have been planning it for 2-3 years now. No way in hell were they going to roll into this thing with a new coach and an unrecognizable Bottom 6. Even if they wanted to do the latter, the youth isn't necessarily ready for it and there was no money to pick up anyone worthwhile: especially in UFA where a good 3rd/4th line tweener can pick up a cap hit exceeding pretty much every one of the Kings 3rd and 4th liners, except for Brown.
 
Maybe this was mentioned before but what about giving Jonathan Bernier a shot. He knows the system, he knows the staff and the team. He'll come with a ton of mental baggage but maybe suiting for a team he had success with will rid him of all that gook he picked up in Toronto. I know it's a LOT of gook.

I've always liked JB and sure this is a crazy-ish idea but we definitely know how loyal DEAN is.
 
losingsand said:
Maybe this was mentioned before but what about giving Jonathan Bernier a shot. He knows the system, he knows the staff and the team. He'll come with a ton of mental baggage but maybe suiting for a team he had success with will rid him of all that gook he picked up in Toronto. I know it's a LOT of gook.

I've always liked JB and sure this is a crazy-ish idea but we definitely know how loyal DEAN is.
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Why would Anaheim do anything to improve our goalie situation?
 
losingsand said:
Maybe this was mentioned before but what about giving Jonathan Bernier a shot. He knows the system, he knows the staff and the team. He'll come with a ton of mental baggage but maybe suiting for a team he had success with will rid him of all that gook he picked up in Toronto. I know it's a LOT of gook.

I've always liked JB and sure this is a crazy-ish idea but we definitely know how loyal DEAN is.
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And have a $4 mill cap hit for a backup once Quick returns?
 
So at what point does Purcell get a chance to redeem himself? I didn't think he looked that bad, but apparently he has ticked off Sutter. He would be a good option to play with Dowd on the third line or Kopitar and Toffoli on the first line.
 
AlphaBravo said:
So at what point does Purcell get a chance to redeem himself? I didn't think he looked that bad, but apparently he has ticked off Sutter. He would be a good option to play with Dowd on the third line or Kopitar and Toffoli on the first line.
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Purcell is just way too soft for Sutter's liking. Every time Purcell gets the puck he gets knocked off it.
 
WHOneedsSOX said:
Purcell is just way too soft for Sutter's liking. Every time Purcell gets the puck he gets knocked off it.
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Which reminds me of exactly why he was a poor fit during his first stint with the team under Terry Murray.

Chalk it up as another one of Dean's dumpster diving signings. Would've been better off just re-signing Kris Versteeg.
 
I think their plan is:

King and Purcell are replaced by Kempe and Mersch next year.

Gilbert will be gone and something will be done with Greene. Replaced by Gravel and LaDue.

Money saved will be used on Toffoli/Pearson.

The only other guys that I feel really have a shot at forcing a move with their play right now are Brodzinski or Amadio, and that's at least a year or two off. Maybe Watson if he puts on a bit more size. I personally don't see NHL potential in the rest of the older guys, and the next wave (Cernak, Luff, Sharp) is at least 3 years out.
 
theMajor said:
youve ripped on Dwight King in two threads and both of your jabs have been 100% wrong. what gives? do you watch him play ever?
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Went thru this last season and to prove my point I commented (in a game thread) on how quickly King lost the puck every time he touched it. It was brutal. In fandom he's still lunching off DS scouting him (2012) in the AHL and bringing him up. So how did that work out? (playing w/Richards)? The Kings lost 5 out of their next 6. He's a smart player but the game has passed him by because he's just too slow. Should not be anywhere but the 4th line or a HS.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
Which reminds me of exactly why he was a poor fit during his first stint with the team under Terry Murray.

Chalk it up as another one of Dean's dumpster diving signings. Would've been better off just re-signing Kris Versteeg.
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Best case scenario is Purcell is traded either for a goalie or a 2nd/3rd round pick sometime during the season. It's probably not a good sign when you're signed to replace the 20-35-55 lost and you're a healthy scratch a few games into the season. Not to mention being beat out of a roster spot by a guy who hasn't been in the NHL for 3+ years.
 
HookKing said:
Went thru this last season and to prove my point I commented (in a game thread) on how quickly King lost the puck every time he touched it. It was brutal. In fandom he's still lunching off DS scouting him (2012) in the AHL and bringing him up. So how did that work out? (playing w/Richards)? The Kings lost 5 out of their next 6. He's a smart player but the game has passed him by because he's just too slow. Should not be anywhere but the 4th line or a HS.
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Was that when they won the cup? He did have 8 pts in 20 games that year. In 2014 he had 11 points in 26 playoff games, 3 less than TT and 1 less than Pearson. That's better than average 3rd line production. He also had 30 points that year and was a +16.

He hasn't been the same since he was hurt, and I agree he's regressed a bit, but to call him a 4th liner or healthy scratch is crazy. He far outproduces Clifford, Lewis, Shore, Nolan, Stoll, and whatever guys we had on our 4th line. Hell, he outscored most those guys last year even though he was out for an extended period.
 
markisonfire said:
Teddy Purcell is Matt Frattin 2.0, who was Teddy Purcell 2.0.
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It's the Circle of Life

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Ontario Reign got replacement for Campbell (G Troy Redmann) and after 2+ weeks when Zatkoff is back Campbell goes to Reign and Kings ride Zatkoff/Budaj until Quick is ready to play. For now...
 
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