Line Combos: 2016-2017 Kings Roster

[tsanuri]

Seeing the contract Gaudreau signed, I'm hoping it's a sign that Toffoli will get less than that.

A long term commitment at $5.5M would be ideal. He should get a deal around the same ballpark as Mike Hoffman.

As for Pearson, he has so much to prove. I don't think he's worth over $2.5M yet. He needs a big, productive season to prove his worth.

Woah, Toffoli's numbers have been really good the last couple years. Getting him locked up for around $5M would be good.

Gaudreau deal should help.

Keep dreaming.
A player without rights that signed for 5 RFA years and 1 UFA year.
Compared to a player with rights and new deal will include 2 RFA years and the rest UFA.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Except the player with no rights is far better and more consistent than Toffoli. Are you suggesting he'll get more than $6.75M? If so, I don't see Lombardi caving in.

 

[tsanuri]

Except the player with no rights is far better and more consistent than Toffoli. Are you suggesting he'll get more than $6.75M? If so, I don't see Lombardi caving in.

No I don't think he'll get that much unless he has a monster season.
But don't see him as low as 5.5 as nice as that could be.

 

[kingsfan28]

Except the player with no rights is far better and more consistent than Toffoli. Are you suggesting he'll get more than $6.75M? If so, I don't see Lombardi caving in.

Neither do I. Toffoli is more consistent overall, scoring equally on the road as he does at home. Johnny hockey scoring really drops off on the road, and on the defensive side too, with a -17 . He doesn't put up the same numbers, and maybe he will in the future, but I think his overall game is better.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I think Dean will stand firm in trying to get Tyler locked up at below $6M. Maybe similar to Brown's deal.

 

[The Tikkanen]

PA Parenteau anyone?

 

[Reaper45]

PA Parenteau anyone?

I would. He's a solid possession player. Grab him and move King for picks.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

PA Parenteau anyone?

someone will snag him for sure.

Few good players on waivers imo

 

[kingsboy11]

I think the Forsberg and Gaudreau deals is very beneficial to Toffoli. I think if we get anything in that range for 6-7 years we're golden. Just as long as Toffoli doesn't score 50 this upcoming season

 

[McMatthews]

I would. He's a solid possession player. Grab him and move King for picks.

I watched PAP play all season and he was slightly above average.

If you want to upgrade on King, I would go another route though.

Ps., Zankou Chicken is so boss.

 

[Kingspiracy]

Rangers possibly moving Mcilrath

https://www.sny.tv/rangers/news/report-the-rangers-may-be-looking-to-trade-dylan-mcilrath/205648092

He'd be worth a look as a snarly 6/7 RD matt green replacement.

 

[Reaper45]

I watched PAP play all season and he was slightly above average.

If you want to upgrade on King, I would go another route though.

Ps., Zankou Chicken is so boss.

He's not so much an upgrade on King as he's a cheaper option who provides more offense from the 3rd line, which is what the Kings are trying to go for this season. Also, moving King allows an opening for Mersch next season, while Parenteau holds the spot down this season. Just my .2cents.

 

[regulate]

 

[kingsholygrail]

So many numbers to remember now.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

People need to stop wearing 10, I'm having a hard time keeping track

 

[regulate]

So essentially the new guys are Setoguchi, Purcell, Dowd, Forbort, Gilbert and Zatkoff.

 

[bob77]

The Mayor is reporting the Kings will go with 7 d?

 

[McMatthews]

He's not so much an upgrade on King as he's a cheaper option who provides more offense from the 3rd line, which is what the Kings are trying to go for this season. Also, moving King allows an opening for Mersch next season, while Parenteau holds the spot down this season. Just my .2cents.

He won't be providing much offence if he's hurt. PAP is a little fragile. He's also very ineffective if he's relegated to lesser minutes.

I bet there's a guy out there that'll be more effective as a 3rd/4th line player with some grit. It's just up to DL to find him while somehow managing to move King's contract.

A good example might be someone like Peter Holland from Toronto. He's at $1.3M and naturally a C but he's learned to play W. There is some untapped offensive upside still. He's got really good hands and with more minutes, he could be a decent 3rd line player. I have no doubt that Holland could give a team 30+ points. I have a lot more trust in him than I would a guy like PAP. Holland might hit the waiver wire soon enough, as his stay in Toronto seems to be coming to an end, due to a bunch of young players coming up. Holland isn't really that gritty depth forward you want but he's got more bite than PAP, which isn't saying a whole lot.

 

[Trolfoli]

The Mayor is reporting the Kings will go with 7 d?

1 Doughty
2 Muzzin
3 Martinez
4 McNabb
5 Greene
6 Forbort
7 Gilbert
8 Gravel

Unless Gravel is playing top 4 mins I don't know why he'd be in the NHL vs top pair on the Reign. He could be up for 2 games during the Pearson suspension.

 

[Choralone]

Ps., Zankou Chicken is so boss.

Yep, it's pretty darn good.

 

[KingsFan7824]

I would. He's a solid possession player. Grab him and move King for picks.

Teams have their own guys they've signed. They have their own young guys they want to see play. It's a day before the season starts. Move King for picks. Where?

He's not so much an upgrade on King as he's a cheaper option who provides more offense from the 3rd line, which is what the Kings are trying to go for this season. Also, moving King allows an opening for Mersch next season, while Parenteau holds the spot down this season. Just my .2cents.

King is a UFA after this season too.

 

[USE Fi]

Rangers possibly moving Mcilrath

https://www.sny.tv/rangers/news/report-the-rangers-may-be-looking-to-trade-dylan-mcilrath/205648092

He'd be worth a look as a snarly 6/7 RD matt green replacement.

2010 1st round 10th overall (R handed physical depth defenseman) higher pick than Derek Forbort.

1 Taylor Hall (LW) Canada Edmonton Oilers Windsor Spitfires (OHL)
2 Tyler Seguin (C) Canada Boston Bruins (from Toronto)1 Plymouth Whalers (OHL)
3 Erik Gudbranson (D) Canada Florida Panthers Kingston Frontenacs (OHL)
4 Ryan Johansen (C) Canada Columbus Blue Jackets Portland Winterhawks (WHL)
5 Nino Niederreiter (LW) Switzerland New York Islanders Portland Winterhawks WHL
6 Brett Connolly (RW) Canada Tampa Bay Lightning Prince George Cougars (WHL)
7 Jeff Skinner (C) Canada Carolina Hurricanes Kitchener Rangers (OHL)
8 Alexander Burmistrov (C) Russia Atlanta Thrashers Barrie Colts (OHL)
9 Mikael Granlund (C) Finland Minnesota Wild HIFK (SM-liiga)
10 Dylan McIlrath (D) Canada New York Rangers Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL)
11 Jack Campbell (G) United States Dallas Stars US NTDP (USHL)
12 Cam Fowler (D) United States Anaheim Ducks Windsor Spitfires (OHL)
13 Brandon Gormley (D) Canada Phoenix Coyotes (from Calgary)2 Moncton Wildcats (QMJHL)
14 Jaden Schwartz (C) Canada St. Louis Blues Tri-City Storm (USHL)
15 Derek Forbort (D) United States Los Angeles Kings (from Boston via Florida)3 US NTDP (USHL)
16 Vladimir Tarasenko (RW) Russia St. Louis Blues (from Ottawa)4 Sibir Novosibirsk (KHL)
17 Joey Hishon (C) Canada Colorado Avalanche Owen Sound Attack (OHL)
18 Austin Watson (RW) United States Nashville Predators Peterborough Petes (OHL)
19 Nick Bjugstad (C) United States Florida Panthers (from Los Angeles)5 Blaine High School (USHS–MN)
20 Beau Bennett (RW) United States Pittsburgh Penguins Penticton Vees (BCHL)
21 Riley Sheahan (C) Canada Detroit Red Wings University of Notre Dame (CCHA)
22 Jarred Tinordi (D) United States Montreal Canadiens (from Phoenix)6 London Knights (OHL)
23 Mark Pysyk (D) Canada Buffalo Sabres Edmonton Oil Kings (WHL)
24 Kevin Hayes (RW) United States Chicago Blackhawks (from New Jersey via Atlanta)7 Noble and Greenough School (USHS–MA)
25 Quinton Howden (LW) Canada Florida Panthers (from Vancouver)8 Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL)
26 Evgeny Kuznetsov (C) Russia Washington Capitals Traktor Chelyabinsk (KHL)
27 Mark Visentin (G) Canada Phoenix Coyotes (from Montreal)9 Niagara IceDogs (OHL)
28 Charlie Coyle (C/RW) United States San Jose Sharks South Shore Kings (EJHL)
29 Emerson Etem (RW) United States Anaheim Ducks (from Philadelphia)10 Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)
30 Brock Nelson (C) United States New York Islanders (from Chicago)11 Warroad High School (USHS–MN)

 

[itstheo54]

2010 1st round 10th overall (R handed physical depth defenseman) higher pick than Derek Forbort.

1 Taylor Hall (LW) Canada Edmonton Oilers Windsor Spitfires (OHL)
2 Tyler Seguin (C) Canada Boston Bruins (from Toronto)1 Plymouth Whalers (OHL)
3 Erik Gudbranson (D) Canada Florida Panthers Kingston Frontenacs (OHL)
4 Ryan Johansen (C) Canada Columbus Blue Jackets Portland Winterhawks (WHL)
5 Nino Niederreiter (LW) Switzerland New York Islanders Portland Winterhawks WHL
6 Brett Connolly (RW) Canada Tampa Bay Lightning Prince George Cougars (WHL)
7 Jeff Skinner (C) Canada Carolina Hurricanes Kitchener Rangers (OHL)
8 Alexander Burmistrov (C) Russia Atlanta Thrashers Barrie Colts (OHL)
9 Mikael Granlund (C) Finland Minnesota Wild HIFK (SM-liiga)
10 Dylan McIlrath (D) Canada New York Rangers Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL)
11 Jack Campbell (G) United States Dallas Stars US NTDP (USHL)
12 Cam Fowler (D) United States Anaheim Ducks Windsor Spitfires (OHL)
13 Brandon Gormley (D) Canada Phoenix Coyotes (from Calgary)2 Moncton Wildcats (QMJHL)
14 Jaden Schwartz (C) Canada St. Louis Blues Tri-City Storm (USHL)
15 Derek Forbort (D) United States Los Angeles Kings (from Boston via Florida)3 US NTDP (USHL)
16 Vladimir Tarasenko (RW) Russia St. Louis Blues (from Ottawa)4 Sibir Novosibirsk (KHL)
17 Joey Hishon (C) Canada Colorado Avalanche Owen Sound Attack (OHL)
18 Austin Watson (RW) United States Nashville Predators Peterborough Petes (OHL)
19 Nick Bjugstad (C) United States Florida Panthers (from Los Angeles)5 Blaine High School (USHS–MN)
20 Beau Bennett (RW) United States Pittsburgh Penguins Penticton Vees (BCHL)
21 Riley Sheahan (C) Canada Detroit Red Wings University of Notre Dame (CCHA)
22 Jarred Tinordi (D) United States Montreal Canadiens (from Phoenix)6 London Knights (OHL)
23 Mark Pysyk (D) Canada Buffalo Sabres Edmonton Oil Kings (WHL)
24 Kevin Hayes (RW) United States Chicago Blackhawks (from New Jersey via Atlanta)7 Noble and Greenough School (USHS–MA)
25 Quinton Howden (LW) Canada Florida Panthers (from Vancouver)8 Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL)
26 Evgeny Kuznetsov (C) Russia Washington Capitals Traktor Chelyabinsk (KHL)
27 Mark Visentin (G) Canada Phoenix Coyotes (from Montreal)9 Niagara IceDogs (OHL)
28 Charlie Coyle (C/RW) United States San Jose Sharks South Shore Kings (EJHL)
29 Emerson Etem (RW) United States Anaheim Ducks (from Philadelphia)10 Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)
30 Brock Nelson (C) United States New York Islanders (from Chicago)11 Warroad High School (USHS–MN)

Seeing Tarasenko go right after Forbort makes me cringe still

 

[eleventy]

Seeing Tarasenko go right after Forbort makes me cringe still

Man I remember being at that draft too thinking we swapped 1st round positions to draft local boy Etem.

 

[eleventy]

1 Doughty
2 Muzzin
3 Martinez
4 McNabb
5 Greene
6 Forbort
7 Gilbert
8 Gravel

Unless Gravel is playing top 4 mins I don't know why he'd be in the NHL vs top pair on the Reign. He could be up for 2 games during the Pearson suspension.

Mayor is saying Gravel is starting in Ontario.