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2016-2017 Kings Roster Talk Part IV

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Ziggy Stardust said:
I wonder if Blake's old defense partner had any input on him.
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Was thinking that too...King scout Niklas Andersson in Sweden is probably
very familiar with him as well. He played on the Swedish World Championship Team in 2016:
(not the World Cup Team though)

this team had Wenneberg, Backlund, Gustav Nyqvist,(sp) Adam Larsson and a few other NHL players.
He was +3 in the tournament, which was best on the team.

http://www.quanthockey.com/whc/en/teams/team-sweden-players-2016-whc-stats.html
 
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In theory, would you do:

Seabrook ($6.875m until 2024)
Kruger ($3.083m until 2019)

for

Brown ($5.875m until 2022)
Gaborik ($4.875m until 2021)
 
Kingsfan1 said:
You should have kept reading as another poster also commented they had a child of their own after all of this. A Russian interview is where I read about them being still together and that it was blown out of proportion
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Then the joke wouldn't have worked.
 
KingsFan7824 said:
In theory, would you do:

Seabrook ($6.875m until 2024)
Kruger ($3.083m until 2019)

for

Brown ($5.875m until 2022)
Gaborik ($4.875m until 2021)
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I would pass on that deal. Seabrook's term is insane and one million higher than Brown's. Also, Kruger is not an upgrade over Gaborik, although his term is shorter and one million less.

I would prefer to just buy out Gaborik and keep Brown, who I think is still a very effective 40 point forward that always has high hits.
 
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AlphaBravo said:
I would pass on that deal. Seabrook's term is insane and one million higher than Brown's. Also, Kruger is not an upgrade over Gaborik, although his term is shorter and one million less.

I would prefer to just buy out Gaborik and keep Brown, who I think is still a very effective 40 point forward that always has high hits.
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Kruger ends 2 years before Gaborik. Seabrook ends 2 years after Brown. The cap space basically matches up. Neither team is getting rid of the bad contracts, so just a change of scenery thought experiment. Wasn't thinking about Kruger being an upgrade on Gaborik. It was more about Kruger's deal ending when Doughty's does, which would open up $3m to re-sign Doughty. Instead of buying Gaborik out, and then having $3m in dead cap space when Doughty's contract ends.

Seabrook has a NMC, and Blake probably doesn't trade Brown right off the bat, which means it most likely remains a meaningless idea.
 
KingsFan7824 said:
Kruger ends 2 years before Gaborik. Seabrook ends 2 years after Brown. The cap space basically matches up. Neither team is getting rid of the bad contracts, so just a change of scenery thought experiment. Wasn't thinking about Kruger being an upgrade on Gaborik. It was more about Kruger's deal ending when Doughty's does, which would open up $3m to re-sign Doughty. Instead of buying Gaborik out, and then having $3m in dead cap space when Doughty's contract ends.

Seabrook has a NMC, and Blake probably doesn't trade Brown right off the bat, which means it most likely remains a meaningless idea.
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Didn't Blake say he isn't trading Brown during the presser?
 
kingsfan28 said:
Didn't Blake say he isn't trading Brown during the presser?
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When DL got fired and Blake hired, there was a rumor stating the opposite-that Blake will trade Brown. Of course the million dollar question is how. I never heard him say he is keeping Brown. Noticeably, Brown was not one of the few leaders invited to the presser either.
 
>>>>If you were running the team would you go 4&4 to protect Forbort or 10 to protect Dowd et al?<<<

The Mayor John Hoven‏ @mayorNHL
The Mayor John Hoven
I wouldn't protect Forbort. I'd deal him right now
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What? Why not protect Forbort over Dowd, et al? Forbort is 2 years younger than
Dowd and is worthy of being protected. Trade him now? You could not win that trade. Forbort is a late bloomer and getting better, yet not worthy of another team overpaying for him.

It makes more sense to trade Muzzin or Martinez, both with reasonable 4 million cap hits for their value as players, each proven defensemen and each with 2 Cup rings. You have a very good chance to win in a deal dealing either of them. I don't see how you win in a deal, trading Forbort.
 
Peter James Bond II said:
>>>>If you were running the team would you go 4&4 to protect Forbort or 10 to protect Dowd et al?<<<

The Mayor John Hoven‏ @mayorNHL
The Mayor John Hoven
I wouldn't protect Forbort. I'd deal him right now
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What? Why not protect Forbort over Dowd, et al? Forbort is 2 years younger than
Dowd and is worthy of being protected. Trade him now? You could not win that trade. Forbort is a late bloomer and getting better, yet not worthy of another team overpaying for him.

It makes more sense to trade Muzzin or Martinez, both with reasonable 4 million cap hits for their value as players, each proven defensemen and each with 2 Cup rings. You have a very good chance to win in a deal dealing either of them. I don't see how you win in a deal, trading Forbort.
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Stuff like this is where I question his hockey knowledge. He's obviously connected but why in God's name would your trade Forbort when a guy like Muzzin or Martinez would fetch a better return and you'd cut salary.
 
Peter James Bond II said:
>>>>If you were running the team would you go 4&4 to protect Forbort or 10 to protect Dowd et al?<<<

The Mayor John Hoven‏ @mayorNHL
The Mayor John Hoven
I wouldn't protect Forbort. I'd deal him right now
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What? Why not protect Forbort over Dowd, et al? Forbort is 2 years younger than
Dowd and is worthy of being protected. Trade him now? You could not win that trade. Forbort is a late bloomer and getting better, yet not worthy of another team overpaying for him.

It makes more sense to trade Muzzin or Martinez, both with reasonable 4 million cap hits for their value as players, each proven defensemen and each with 2 Cup rings. You have a very good chance to win in a deal dealing either of them. I don't see how you win in a deal, trading Forbort.
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depends if we can get a yo:nod:ung forward with top line upside id do it.
 
Reaper45 said:
Stuff like this is where I question his hockey knowledge. He's obviously connected but why in God's name would your trade Forbort when a guy like Muzzin or Martinez would fetch a better return and you'd cut salary.
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Yeah. I believe he has connections, but I don't trust his analysis.
 
Yeah, first and foremost, he's a fan. Just like all the other online bloggers who cover the Kings. Doesn't make their opinions any more valid than anyone on here.

He gets good information well ahead of most reporters though.
 
King'sPawn said:
Yeah. I believe he has connections, but I don't trust his analysis.
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again depending on the return people no one asked him for what have they? So i wouldn't jump on him till he explained his whole plan. However this is a typical knee jerk reaction to jump on him before knowing all the in and outs (im not saying you kp but others in this thread)
 
I don't need to jerk a knee to recognize that Muzzin or Martinez will return a better forward piece than Forbort.
 
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