2016-17 Kings Roster Part 2

[damacles1156]

Is zatkoff expected to start tomo?

I think Zatkoff has played his last games as a King.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I think Zatkoff has played his last games as a King.

I'm getting that feeling more and more. Budaj gets the next 20 starts until Quick is healthy.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

from eklund
Text from an LA source..."The deal on the table is Muzzin and #1 prospect Kempe for Matt Duchene and Francois Beauchemin...The Avalanche want LoDue.... but he is untouchable"

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Ha, if that's all it took to get Duchene, he'd be in a Kings jersey.

 

[damacles1156]

If all it took was Muzzin/LaDue.

Lombardi would have already pulled the trigger.

Duchene is the Av's best player if you ask me. Also he is only 26 years old.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

taking Francois Beauchemin would be the tricky part He has a ntc

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Beauchemin would be a Kings move for sure

 

[damacles1156]

Beauchemin is another left handed Defender.

 

[HookKing]

taking Francois Beauchemin would be the tricky part He has a ntc

I'm sure he's desperate to stay with a completely dysfunctional mess as his career winds down.

 

[Trolfoli]

from eklund
Text from an LA source..."The deal on the table is Muzzin and #1 prospect Kempe for Matt Duchene and Francois Beauchemin...The Avalanche want LoDue.... but he is untouchable"

Was it also posted that the Mayor was saying NYR scouting Ontario/gulls.


And WTF is Beauchemin doing coming back. Cap won't work there unless they shutdown Greene the rest of the year.

Edit: The Beauchemin part makes this believable. Makes sense if Greene is out and a total Lombardi move.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

I'm sure he's desperate to stay with a completely dysfunctional mess as his career winds down.

its the extra year I'm not sure if the ntc comes to la or not If it does he has to be protected

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Was it also posted that the Mayor was saying NYR scouting Ontario/gulls.


And WTF is Beauchemin doing coming back. Cap won't work there unless they shutdown Greene the rest of the year.

Edit: The Beauchemin part makes this believable. Makes sense if Greene is out and a total Lombardi move.

avs could always retain Thats a typical dean move

 

[Kingspiracy]

Would we have to protect Beauchemin from expansion?

 

[damacles1156]

Would we have to protect Beauchemin from expansion?

One exception only I think.

If the NTC/NMC hasn't kicked in yet. Team trading for you, can option to not honor.

 

[onlyalad]

from eklund
Text from an LA source..."The deal on the table is Muzzin and #1 prospect Kempe for Matt Duchene and Francois Beauchemin...The Avalanche want LoDue.... but he is untouchable"

I thought I had blocked Eklund from my My Space page

 

[Trolfoli]

Beauchemin is making 4.5M and signed for another year?

 

[damacles1156]

Beauchemin is making 4.5M and signed for another year?

He is also Left handed.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

One exception only I think.

If the NTC/NMC hasn't kicked in yet.

if it is in and he waives it to come to la does he not lose it? I always thought he does It would be up to the king to honour it or not

 

[HookKing]

its the extra year I'm not sure if the ntc comes to la or not If it does he has to be protected

NTC's don't have to be protected.

 

[Trolfoli]

He is also Left handed.

Yeah, but a bottom pairing guy so Gravel or LaDue could play the off side. Plus with moving Muzzin out they'd have the same number of LHD as now. It's not like they're, allegedly, adding another on top of what they have now.

Edit: Be good to put with LaDue. Like those parachutes runners train with, if LaDue can learn to drag Beauchemin around when you drop the anchor he'll be amazing!

 

[KingCanadain1976]

NTC's don't have to be protected.

then its a no movement clause whichever one has to be protected He has it but if he waives it to come to la would la have to honour it ? i always thought no

 

[damacles1156]

Yeah, but a bottom pairing guy so Gravel or LaDue could play the off side. Plus with moving Muzzin out they'd have the same number of LHD as now. It's not like they're, allegedly, adding another on top of what they have now.

Edit: Be good to put with LaDue. Like those parachutes runners train with, if LaDue can learn to drag Beauchemin around when you drop the anchor he'll be amazing!

The deal was rumored Muzzin/LaDue going the other way.

 

[damacles1156]

then its a no movement clause whichever one has to be protected He has it but if he waives it to come to la would la have to honour it ? i always thought no

There are only three reasons why a trade could/would void an NTC/NMC.

1. The player voluntarily agrees to waive it for the duration of the contract - I know of no players who have done that.

2. The NTC/NMC has an explicit condition in it that states that it is voided upon a trade - I know of no SPCs which such a term.

3. If an RFA who signs a deal with a NTC/NMC, that NTC/NMC cannot go into effect until the year that the player would have become UFA eligible - if he is traded before then, the NTC/NMC is not binding on the new team unless they choose to honor it and file paperwork with the League to that effect. This case is not that uncommon.

Quote from KDB, someone much more savvy about the CBA than me.

 

[HookKing]

then its a no movement clause whichever one has to be protected He has it but if he waives it to come to la would la have to honour it ? i always thought no

Kings would insist he wave the NMC for the draft if he comes. Not likely Vegas would take him anyway. The more I look at the draft I think the actual draft itself will be a big yawn. Vegas will have no choice but to make deals ahead of time to keep Arizona etc. from poaching all the choice offerings before the draft.

I think DL will offer Vegas a menu -- take Brown and get a first, take Gaborik and get a 2nd etc. If you say no we will give up our best castoff to Arizona for something which is better than nothing.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Beauchemin makes sense from the Avs perspective because moving him to a contender is the only way they can get rid of him. From our perspective? yecccccch. Guy is beyond beyond done. He's Scuderi territory but with less ****s to give. Maybe that last part comes back if he's playing for his career but still.