2016-17 Kings Roster Part 2

[Seventyx7]

No one takes Brown.
Clifford is a fourth line plug.
Lewis is overpaid but has term.

I'd count my blessings if they took Lewis.

Lewis is so under appreciated around here.

 

[Reaper45]

Kings need to go 7-3 anyways so they can protect Lewis & Gaborik.



Not sure if I'm trolling or serious or trolling because I'm serious.

I can 100% see Lombardi making a trade so he can protect Lewis.

Protecting Lewis is one thing, if he protects Gaborik he should be fired.

I'd move McNabb for a pick or two, maybe you can pry a 2nd or both of the ones they have from NJ. Then I'd protect Carter, Kopitar, Toffoli, Pearson, Doughty, Muzzin, Forbort, Martinez. Use the 2 seconds and Mersch to make sure Vegas takes Gaborik or Brown. Maybe it'd work maybe not.

 

[Reaper45]

Lewis is so under appreciated around here.

Yes he is. I'm positive if the Kings protected 7 forwards, he'd be one of them.

 

[Fishhead]

Yup. If Muzzin or Martinez go back the other way, we just have to protect the following defensemen: Doughty, Forbort, Muzzin or Martinez. LaDue and Gravel are waiver exempt. We will have to expose McNabb anyways because Greene is injured for what appears to be the entire season, and Gilbert was just waived and likely wont get enough games in for the draft.

The seven forwards will be: Carter, Kopitar, Pearson, Toffoli, [new guy], Lewis, Dowd.

Gilbert only needs 7 more games to be eligible, I think. He played 45 the year before so he needs 25 this year to hit his 70, he's at 18. Seems like it would be better to play him for those games and try to get an asset for McNabb if he's going to be the #7.

 

[Reaper45]

Gilbert only needs 7 more games to be eligible, I think. He played 45 the year before so he needs 25 this year to hit his 70, he's at 18. Seems like it would be better to play him for those games and try to get an asset for McNabb if he's going to be the #7.

I think Gilbert needs 7 more games plus a contract for next season.

 

[HookKing]

I just think it's funny that the perception is Landeskog and Duchene are available--and just about every rumor is "x is interested in Duchene" where x = 29 NHL teams while we're the only ones linked to Landeskog

They aren't and if they were Colorado would be entering Mike Milbury territory. Top 4 dmen will be a dime a dozen as teams exit the season and face expansion draft reality.

 

[LAKings88]

Lewis is a glue guy blah blah blah. He is a utility plug. I appreciate him but I don't think I'd shed too many tears if he goes.

Maybe a guy like brodzinski fills in the gap and adds a little more scoring.

I don't hate Lewis but just think meh. He has been a faithful soldier tho.

 

[Seventyx7]

Yes he is. I'm positive if the Kings protected 7 forwards, he'd be one of them.

Definitely. I could see Vegas coveting him to be a captain, with his term remaining, cup experience, and consistent effort. I really hope we find a way to hang on to him.

 

[Seventyx7]

Lewis is a glue guy blah blah blah. He is a utility plug. I appreciate him but I don't think I'd shed too many tears if he goes.

Maybe a guy like brodzinski fills in the gap and adds a little more scoring.

I don't hate Lewis but just think meh. He has been a faithful soldier tho.

Hey man the glue guys are what this team's identity is. So many have left, in Mitchell, Stoll, Williams, Regehr, Greene looking iffy. Lewis brings 100% no matter the situation. He gets a hard time for his hands, but he's been involved in plenty of big goals over the past five years.

 

[HookKing]

Protecting Lewis is one thing, if he protects Gaborik he should be fired.

I'd move McNabb for a pick or two, maybe you can pry a 2nd or both of the ones they have from NJ. Then I'd protect Carter, Kopitar, Toffoli, Pearson, Doughty, Muzzin, Forbort, Martinez. Use the 2 seconds and Mersch to make sure Vegas takes Gaborik or Brown. Maybe it'd work maybe not.

Well, be careful what you wish for. If he maroons Gaborik in Vegas and he hates it there and decides to retire early don't the Kings get hammered with recapture?

 

[LAKings88]

It probably won't happen but if you had to lose one of Lewis or Dowd, who would it be?

I'd keep Dowd. Hence my value of Lewis.

I'm not DL or Sutter tho.

 

[bob77]

I think Gilbert needs 7 more games plus a contract for next season.

That's correct. There would be no guarantee he would sign one prior to thr day the Kings list is submitted. He might want to try free agency again.

 

[Seventyx7]

It probably won't happen but if you had to lose one of Lewis or Dowd, who would it be?

I'd keep Dowd. Hence my value of Lewis.

I'm not DL or Sutter tho.

Its close, I do like Dowd. They each have 16 points though, and Lewis doesn't get PP time. Lewis is also signed longer. You'll miss Lewis when he's gone!

 

[bob77]

This is starting to set up like the D player to be exposed is McNabb. If the Kings trade Muzzin or Martinez, they can then go 7-3 about protect Kopi, carter, pearson, Toffolli, new F, Dowd, and ?? On D, forbort, drew, and mm left still. Ladue and Gravel exempt.

 

[Trolfoli]

Well, be careful what you wish for. If he maroons Gaborik in Vegas and he hates it there and decides to retire early don't the Kings get hammered with recapture?

Nope. The recapture is for contracts signed prior to the new CBA where players make something like 1M for the last couple of years to lower the AAV. Carter & Quick I believe have contracts that could have a recapture.

Other then that's there's a 35+ contract, but I don't believe his contract falls into that category either.

If Gaborik retires early there's no penalty.

Also Scuderi could be extended for league min then retire. He'd need 2 games to meet the requirement. It would cost the Kings 500K against the cap because I believe he's a 35+ contract.

Or the Kings could get a 7-8th D that meets the requirement in any trade they make.

Plenty of solutions, no need to worry.

McNabb: Looks a little rough coming back from the injury & only signed for 1 year before UFA. Don't think Vegas would target him if left exposed.

 

[Fishhead]

This is starting to set up like the D player to be exposed is McNabb. If the Kings trade Muzzin or Martinez, they can then go 7-3 about protect Kopi, carter, pearson, Toffolli, new F, Dowd, and ?? On D, forbort, drew, and mm left still. Ladue and Gravel exempt.

I doubt DL trades one of Martinez or Muzzin. The resulting blue line would be one injury away from disaster. Imagine something like Doughty, Muzzin, LaDue, Forbort, Gravel, and god knows who. Then take out DD or Muzzin. Probably not going to happen on DL's watch unless "god knows who" is a really, really good D-man.

 

[johnjm22]

Terms like "leadership" & "glue" are overrated.

I like him just fine, but Lewis is a dime a dozen player. Eric Belanger was better.

 

[KingsHockey24]

No one takes Brown.
Clifford is a fourth line plug.
Lewis is overpaid but has term.

I'd count my blessings if they took Lewis.

1. Vegas has money to spend, why not take a proven leader in Brown.

2. Clifford is having a career year, on pace for 10goals/20points playing on the 4th line.

3. Trevor Lewis @2M per is about what 3rd line players are getting paid these days.

 

[HookKing]

I doubt DL trades one of Martinez or Muzzin. The resulting blue line would be one injury away from disaster. Imagine something like Doughty, Muzzin, LaDue, Forbort, Gravel, and god knows who. Then take out DD or Muzzin. Probably not going to happen on DL's watch unless "god knows who" is a really, really good D-man.

I agree, DL is thinking this year not post-expansion draft. There is another target teams may be looking at and that is Gravel. His trade value would be pretty high considering he doesn't need draft protection. If LaDue plays tonight and Gravel sits it may be the team evaluating if LaDue can take a regular shift.

 

[HookKing]

Nope. The recapture is for contracts signed prior to the new CBA where players make something like 1M for the last couple of years to lower the AAV. Carter & Quick I believe have contracts that could have a recapture.

Other then that's there's a 35+ contract, but I don't believe his contract falls into that category either.

If Gaborik retires early there's no penalty.

Also Scuderi could be extended for league min then retire. He'd need 2 games to meet the requirement. It would cost the Kings 500K against the cap because I believe he's a 35+ contract.

Or the Kings could get a 7-8th D that meets the requirement in any trade they make.

Plenty of solutions, no need to worry.

McNabb: Looks a little rough coming back from the injury & only signed for 1 year before UFA. Don't think Vegas would target him if left exposed.

Good to know! Thanks.

 

[Reaper45]

Terms like "leadership" & "glue" are overrated.

I like him just fine, but Lewis is a dime a dozen player. Eric Belanger was better.

Eric Belanger couldn't take any kind of physical play. No, he was not. Better scorer sure, but Belanger was a typical tweeter.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

They aren't and if they were Colorado would be entering Mike Milbury territory. Top 4 dmen will be a dime a dozen as teams exit the season and face expansion draft reality.

I don't disagree and if Sakic has any brains (which is the part I'm unsure of) he's just dangling them as a "make me an offer I can't refuse" rather than dumping them.

Terms like "leadership" & "glue" are overrated.

I like him just fine, but Lewis is a dime a dozen player. Eric Belanger was better.

Guy with cup experience and can play on any line and any situation on a good deal, depending on what else is available, Lewis is a great pick. If he weren't on the Kings who are overflowing with defensive redundancies--if we were fans of a different team--people here would be much more appreciative of him.

 

[johnjm22]

Eric Belanger couldn't take any kind of physical play. No, he was not. Better scorer sure, but Belanger was a typical tweeter.

I don't disagree and if Sakic has any brains (which is the part I'm unsure of) he's just dangling them as a "make me an offer I can't refuse" rather than dumping them.

Guy with cup experience and can play on any line and any situation on a good deal, depending on what else is available, Lewis is a great pick. If he weren't on the Kings who are overflowing with defensive redundancies--if we were fans of a different team--people here would be much more appreciative of him.

He's fine. I like him. But he is what he is; a bottom six plug. Brad Richardson is better.

 

[LAKings88]

Lewis has a better contract than I thought for some reason.

Still, appreciate what he does but wouldn't shed many tears if he left. Need players on decent contracts tho.

I wonder if King will be resigned, traded, or left to walk?

 

[Choralone]

Glue is the only thing of value left from an old, broken down horse.

Lewis has a better contract than I thought for some reason.

Still, appreciate what he does but wouldn't shed many tears if he left. Need players on decent contracts tho.

I wonder if King will be resigned, traded, or left to walk?

You could probably get some value for King if he wasn't a UFA. Because of that, I would assume we just let him walk. (Though it pains me and my avatar a bit to say this.)