Kinda off topic of tanking, but
Forbort has looked good this season and being more proactive offensively lately. Good to see.
Forbort has looked good this season and being more proactive offensively lately. Good to see.
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KingsFan7824
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2nd worst save percentage in the league for goalies with >12 games played, even though he's only started 8. inexcusable and unacceptable. I thought the Kings system was supposed to make goalies look better than they are?
It's a career worst season for him, at any level, since 04-05. 2nd worst(.03 away from the worst) GAA, and the worst sv% by 30 points. His career low was a .910 in the AHL a couple years ago. A low of .912 at the NHL level. For a team, like you said, that has a reputation of being goalie friendly.
Too many guys on the team are having career worst numbers at the same time. If Zatkoff had just a .500 record, the Kings would comfortably be in the playoffs at the moment.
Raccoon Jesus
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Yes! Building confidence like crazy. He's even being more assertive carrying the puck through the neutral zone. Would love to see him start carrying it into the zone as well when the opportunity is there but when you're paired with Doughty I guess it's smart to defer
If there's one player on this team I can't stop gushing about this year, it's Forbort.
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Yes! Building confidence like crazy. He's even being more assertive carrying the puck through the neutral zone. Would love to see him start carrying it into the zone as well when the opportunity is there but when you're paired with Doughty I guess it's smart to defer
If there's one player on this team I can't stop gushing about this year, it's Forbort.
I will be curious to see how the Kings protect him, cuz Vegas will snatch him up if he is made available.
Doughty, Martinez, Forbert, Muzzin, Kopitar, Carter, Toffoli, Pearson, Quick?
8 skaters and a goalie?
Raccoon Jesus
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Yep, most likely. What other forwards would we protect? Unless we make a trade for one, which is a more complicated scenario we covered in trade posts...essentially the problem would be trading a d-man, then having to protect an extra forward, then losing ANOTHER d-man.
Funny how these things evolve so much though. Obviously a lot changes over the course of a season, but collectively we were thinking to protect McNabb over Forbort and mourning the loss of Dowd early on...
McNabb has 35 games to change the minds. As of know, he's not a great bottom pair dman. Good chance Vegas passes on him for more established better dmen with terms.
It'll be interesting to watch it play out.
Raccoon Jesus
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McNabb has certainly had a rough return as he tries to round back into form. Seems to be a guy who needs a lot of reps to be effective. Anytime he's out of the lineup and comes back in he's a mess.
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Yet here we are, one point away from a top 5 pick, and EVERYONE is not injured
AlphaBravo
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DL's comments today confirm that this season is a wash (not that most of us needed confirmation). By the time Quick comes back (if he even comes back), we will be well behind the pack for a playoff spot. This should be the one year that we focus on being sellers and gaining as much picks and/or cap space as we can.
We can probably get a 2nd rounder for King or Lewis. McNabb may have good value as well, and could fetch us a prospect or high pick. We should consider trading him since we may lose in for nothing in the expansion draft.
If there is a deal to be made to trade Brown and Gaborik in exchange for us giving the other team a high draft pick or our best prospect, you make that deal (doubt there is one though). Also, if a cap floor team is willing to take Clifford or Greene off our hands in exchange for picks, we should make that deal as well.
Then the Kings should protect Doughty, Forbort, Muzzin, Martinez, Kopitar, Carter, Toffoli, Pearson. Sucks to potentially lose Dowd, but Forbort is far more important to this team.
We can probably get a 2nd rounder for King or Lewis. McNabb may have good value as well, and could fetch us a prospect or high pick. We should consider trading him since we may lose in for nothing in the expansion draft.
If there is a deal to be made to trade Brown and Gaborik in exchange for us giving the other team a high draft pick or our best prospect, you make that deal (doubt there is one though). Also, if a cap floor team is willing to take Clifford or Greene off our hands in exchange for picks, we should make that deal as well.
Then the Kings should protect Doughty, Forbort, Muzzin, Martinez, Kopitar, Carter, Toffoli, Pearson. Sucks to potentially lose Dowd, but Forbort is far more important to this team.
Trading McNabb is probably not a workable proposition when the expansion draft is taken into consideration. If Greene fails to hit 40 games this year (which is iffy with his injury issues) and we trade McNabb, we would have to expose one of Doughty, Martinez, Muzzin or Forbort. That's obviously a non-starter, so we will probably have to hold on to McNabb regardless.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
With half a season to go.
As you can see, we're in the pack of teams that have been absolutely trucked by injuries to impact players and not one of them is even close to being a playoff team (except Van, who is getting contributions from youth getting more playing time like Horvat, Tryamkin, etc. --which is better than what they had on the roster, so they've got sort of a different situation).
It's reasonable to think things are going to improve, at least to the extent that we will not be a bottom-5 team.
but where is LA based on point percentage? With condensed schedules and bye weeks points are going to be a poor judgment do to games played difference between clubs.
This is in no way a bottom 5 team.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
In a playoff spot.
But I don't necessarily like points percentage as you still have to win your games in hand--but I agree with your point that it's sort of disingenuous to point out we're 'not a playoff team' when we have a bunch of games in hand on teams that have to play against one another.
that's a sweet tweet. I was thinking how LA may not be leading the league in man games lost to injury but would be up there for key players lost to injury. This helps support that.
ScoreZeGoals
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aren't you a glass have empty person. They are also tied for 20th as there are 6 teams tied at 1.02.
I will admit that is farther down than I expected or that I feel the club should be (thought they would be between 16-20).
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AlphaBravo
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Gravel is exempt from the draft. We would have to push 14 more games out of Greene to expose him. Hopefully his injuries aren't serious to end his season.
This is the most confusing thing to me. Rosen reported that Gravel is exempt, and that has been reported in a couple other places too, but I have no clue why. He has been a pro for one year more than necessary to be eligible...any idea why he's exempt?
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They're 22nd in just basic points. Tied for 20th in points%. I know this one doesn't matter in reality, but at 12-21-14 in regulation, that's 38 points in 47 games, which is the 3rd worst regulation record in terms of just points, or points%, only ahead of Arizona and Colorado in both categories.
Again, the regulation record doesn't have a bearing on anything directly, but they're not getting every game to OT, so unless they start winning in regulation more often, they could fall into the bottom 5 quickly.
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I think we could technically finish 3rd worst in the league if we really tank. I don't think we can get lower than Arizona or Colorado, but we are only 1 point ahead of the third worst team in the league. Having a top 3 pick (or I guess top 4 with Vegas), could land us Michael Rasmussen, who appears to fit the Kings MO.
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