2016-17 Champions Hockey League

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TPS-HIFK - a toss up, could go either way
SaiPa-Tappara - hoping for SaiPa but Tappara takes this one
Kärpät-Prague - Kärpät
Djurgården-KalPa - Djurgården
HV71- Lukko - 48-52. Lukko in the top -4 both previous CHL seasons so a slight edge to them?
SAIK-JYP - 60-40

My two cents for the match ups including finnish teams. For the rest, swedes and swiss are favorites but the odds are some will fall.

I have HV71 as winner against Lukko and KalPa as winner against Djurgården.
 
I long for the day when a large chunk of these teams calculated player budgets depends on success in this tournament. One can dream, eh?
 
I don't know if this is old news but the prize money will go up from 1,5 million euros to 3,7 million euros next season. I think that's fantastic news, I just became 2,5 times more interested in this tournament! But still too little money for the KHL teams I'm afraid. :(

http://www.mtv.fi/sport/jaakiekko/chl/artikkeli/miljoonapotti-chl-nostaa-rajusti-palkintosummia-mallia-jalkapallosta/6069920

Just a quick translation: they've signed a new 6 year contract, prize money goes up next season to 3,7 million euros.
 
so Finland with 7 teams in the playoffs again? This is just boring. They should lower the amount of teams from Finland and put some other countries teams there. Last year half of the quarter-final teams were from Finland if i remember correctly.

Eight Teams not 7 ;)!
 
Swiss teams with fairly easy matchups. Finns with the hardest. Could mean they fall in the rankings and the Swiss end up with 5 teams vs Finlands 4.

It's normal ... René Fasel, president of IIHF is Swiss :laugh:

Actually more relevant to this thing should be the following :

Finland :
8 teams ... 8 qualified ... 3 first of their group and 5 second of their group
Switzerland :
6 teams ... 6 qualified ... 5 first of their group.

Logically Swiss will meet on average weaker teams than Finns on the first round.
 
It's normal ... René Fasel, president of IIHF is Swiss :laugh:

Actually more relevant to this thing should be the following :

Finland :
8 teams ... 8 qualified ... 3 first of their group and 5 second of their group
Switzerland :
6 teams ... 6 qualified ... 5 first of their group.

Logically Swiss will meet on average weaker teams than Finns on the first round.
You'll hear no objections from me. The tourney itself is the main attraction, of coarse. But league rankings plays a big part in the prestige and excitement that CHL generates.
 
I struggle to accept the fact that the founding countries are guaranteed 1-6 ranking. With Slovakia possibly ending up in 5th or even 4th spot points-wise should Nitra and Kosice do good in the playoffs, they'll still be ranked 7th and get only 1 club in CHL next season, while Czech rep, Germany and Austria would get more spots.
 
I struggle to accept the fact that the founding countries are guaranteed 1-6 ranking. With Slovakia possibly ending up in 5th or even 4th spot points-wise should Nitra and Kosice do good in the playoffs, they'll still be ranked 7th and get only 1 club in CHL next season, while Czech rep, Germany and Austria would get more spots.

That's a tax for the Slovak league being so low level. There's 1-2 quality clubs at most in the entire league. I think it's just right unless the league's quality's gonna get better in the future.
 
Pond hockey is important. Pond hockey means a culture of frozen environment ... which you find in the north. [...] And then the whole culture ... that goes with the cold. With local heroes and kids who want to become them and will feed their dreams with them.
Pond hockey and the culture going with it means Mass of players!

/Sorry for offtopic/

This morning, I found a great article by Nino Niederreiter and was immediately reminded of this discussion about pond hockey:

In Switzerland, the winters are long. For three months, we didn’t get any sun in our backyard because of the shade of the mountains — which meant we could make a lot of one thing.

Ice.

Kids from all over town would come over to my house to play, and we’d wear jerseys that would drape past our knees and do our best impressions of our idols.

Not the idols you might suspect, though. [...] It was all about EHC Chur, our local team. [...] Our heroes played down the street from us.
 
That's a tax for the Slovak league being so low level. There's 1-2 quality clubs at most in the entire league. I think it's just right unless the league's quality's gonna get better in the future.

Aren't results in CHL supposed to be some measure of a quality of a league? If SK teams do well in this years CHL and gain more points in the league rankings then what's the point of having such rankings when the results don't reflect league seeding?
 
I m not agreed with the League Ranking!
For me is the Football UEFA-Ranking a good example.
This Ranking is the almost the same model as IIHF-WC

No good idea ;)!
 
Aren't results in CHL supposed to be some measure of a quality of a league? If SK teams do well in this years CHL and gain more points in the league rankings then what's the point of having such rankings when the results don't reflect league seeding?

Good point, but simply taking the average points gives an inherent advantage to leagues that only send a handful of teams. I think they should use a weighted average instead that gives priority to, say, the top three teams or something like that.
 
Aren't results in CHL supposed to be some measure of a quality of a league? If SK teams do well in this years CHL and gain more points in the league rankings then what's the point of having such rankings when the results don't reflect league seeding?
One good season shouldn't affect the total ranking, it should be the overall ranking. And with the overall ranking, I don't even think that Slovakia would be top 6. If they'd continue to play good and have more points than the other teams, I believe they would change the rules
 
One good season shouldn't affect the total ranking, it should be the overall ranking. And with the overall ranking, I don't even think that Slovakia would be top 6. If they'd continue to play good and have more points than the other teams, I believe they would change the rules

I completely agree that one good season shouldn't be the reflection of a ranking, but the ranking already reflects the last 3 seasons with latest being weighted at 100%, the previous two at 66% and 33% respectively. Even in such ranking Slovakia's league is currently ranked 5th.
 
You'll hear no objections from me. The tourney itself is the main attraction, of coarse. But league rankings plays a big part in the prestige and excitement that CHL generates.

Actually the advantage is not only in easier match-ups, but home ice for return game (in case of OT)

So it really is a big big advantage.
 
It's normal ... René Fasel, president of IIHF is Swiss :laugh:

Actually more relevant to this thing should be the following :

Finland :
8 teams ... 8 qualified ... 3 first of their group and 5 second of their group
Switzerland :
6 teams ... 6 qualified ... 5 first of their group.

Logically Swiss will meet on average weaker teams than Finns on the first round.

Still quite remarkable that there is no Switzerland-Finland matchup.
 

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