I think Russia is going to turtle agains finns, hoping for a random goal from the first or second lines. Don't see them playing an open hockey against a team with so much gamebreaking talent upfront.
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I think Russia is going to turtle agains finns, hoping for a random goal from the first or second lines. Don't see them playing an open hockey against a team with so much gamebreaking talent upfront.
The Russians never 'turtle', I think - they always play offensive hockey. This is going to be another hard game. Still though, if Russia makes less errors, they can take this one. I'm excited about the match.
He was good in the first match, I say it's the right decision to keep him between the pipes. Provorov and Lazarev better not make these silly mistakes again. The offence needs to start clicking too. They should put Dergachev and Kamenev on the same line.
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A lot of people underestimating the Russians in the game against Finland. I think they will surprise them. Good luck guys.
Yeah, Korshkov and Dergachev also look very similar on the ice
. Very powerful guy, but they need to pass more, they tend to go solo Rambo mode. They need to distract all the attention and then make extremely sneaky passes to guys who are fully open.
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Korshkov and Kraskovski (two Lokomotiv forwards) have been far better than any of the "more talented" "big stars" that the Russia got from the Canadian juniors.
Clearly these two players have already surpassed their more talented peers who went to play in Canada.
Clearly these two players have already surpassed their more talented peers who went to play in Canada.
A nice mix of power forwards (Dergachev, Korshkov, Kraskovsky) and really slick puck handlers like Polunin, Kaprizov, and Kuzmenko. That was a fun game to watch tonight! The team played with so much confidence, and they were relentless. Finland is a very good team, but our guys controlled the puck in the Finnish zone for most of the game. I hope they can bottle it!
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Have Tarasenko, Kuznetsov, Panarin and others that went through the Russian system sit down and talk to these guys.
I mean Panarin could very well be the best example. Not a top prospect, didn't get drafted, but still in NHL doing great.
Heck, for him it might have even been better off, as he chose which team to play for.
I mean Panarin could very well be the best example. Not a top prospect, didn't get drafted, but still in NHL doing great.
Heck, for him it might have even been better off, as he chose which team to play for.
Svechnikov is awful, especially as a 19 year old. He was supposed to be the leader of this age group but he is looking like a passanger, the CHL may indeed have further damaged his progress but safe to say he was overhyped when playing in Russia as well.
I agree: Svechnikov, Nikolishin, Lazarev were the stars for this age group - now Nikolishin is watching from home, the other two turned into hard working horses, while they used to be the cream of the crop for Russia. Why not stay at home till 20-22 make a KHL roster, get on a National Team and leave "panarin" style.
I understand the players who are above average but may not find a spot on a MHL team due to corruption - makes sense for them to look for other opportunities, but the guys who's path is laid out for them back home...why move just for higher draft spot....
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Honestly, it all depends. A higher draft spot is an advantage, yet is that advantageous enough, when you rich the league and loose all the attributes that made you get drafted this high, morphing into a regular NA player and loosing your identity?
I presume, your average teen-age hockey player is even dumber than your average teenager - and teens are usually pretty dumb for the lack of life experiences and heavy hormone dosage. So this all depends - whether he is advised by people who are not only looking out for him, but also know what they are doing, capable of assessing the situation and coming up with the best solution possible. For whatever reason, I don't think that this happens to many.
But than again - we do not know for sure, that the rate of players reaching star-dome (or at least reaching high-end leagues and not ending up like Kuchins, Bashkirovs, Korostins of the world) would be higher, had they all matured at home first. I am only leaning that way, based on 30+ years of following hockey pretty darn closely.
So in short - if I am a player of Svechnikov, Grigorenko, Zadorov caliber - there's no way I am leaving Russia to play in the CHL, no way in the world.
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saintflannel
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How's being a higher draft pick an advantage? More negotiation leverage?
I think these kids think that the "Russian factor" will prevent NHL teams from scouting them. There are PLENTY of NHL scouts in Russia and I'm not even sure that "factor" even exists anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if Rubtsov is the first Russian taken.
If you are good, NHL will notice you no matter where you are playing.
I think these kids think that the "Russian factor" will prevent NHL teams from scouting them. There are PLENTY of NHL scouts in Russia and I'm not even sure that "factor" even exists anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if Rubtsov is the first Russian taken.
If you are good, NHL will notice you no matter where you are playing.
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I created special thread for this topic (russians in chl v khl) http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2003705
What Russia also did well that game was the fact that all 4 lines were dangerous - there was no 'filler' line out there. Go Russia!
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