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WJC: 2016 — Finland Roster Talk

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Disappointing start for team Finland. Opposition was poor but the Finns still had to wear them down before they started scoring. The first line was atrocious. Luckily the team has a few lil' kids who know how to play so the veterans can afford to take a day off.
 
In the GDT behemolari asked:

You saw the chemistry?! I saw three island-players doing odd man rushes without any cycles, passing, small plays, screens, rebounds, anything that would indicate there was any hidden or evolving chemistry, against the worst team of the tournament.

Please guide me, because I'm totally need of research where was it, and my pants.
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While one may not see similar chemistry as one might figure Tupu-Hupu-Lupu have after 20 years of cloudy memories, it's similarly unfounded to say there was zero chemistry. Given it's a fresh unit, what I consider most important at the moment is that all the necessary pieces for a working line are there. We have three players who are all skilled, yet dissimilar enough to each have their own niches in the internal roling of said unit. As in, they don't try to occupy each other's natural habitats - an issue that was all too apparent with the 3rd line before that Lammikko <-> Repo switch.

In other words, all the necessary pieces of a successful formula are there - and we did see flashes of things to come. What you just need is to give 'em a little time and see whether it will blossom fully. I give it decent odds that it will.
 
ZetterbergsBeard420 said:
How was Saarijarvi?

Follow up : how do you pronounce his name? Is the J an actual J or is it a Y?
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Finland: At least we pronounce as it's actually written
North America: At least we pronounce it as it's actually written

-> Both spell the same name completely differently.


:) It is "Yarvi" for you, but the a is not a it's actually ä.. I'm pretty confident that commentators will never learn that one though, they didin't learn it on Selänne and he scored 670. Every one are Used to NA-style pronouncing, so I don't mind though.
 
Mara said:
Disappointing start for team Finland. Opposition was poor but the Finns still had to wear them down before they started scoring. The first line was atrocious. Luckily the team has a few lil' kids who know how to play so the veterans can afford to take a day off.
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That's not how it went down. The Finns were the dominating party from the get-go, just couldn't bury it until the second half due to wasted chances, excellent goaltending and unlucky bounces.

Disappointing start maybe, but the scoring had very little to do with Belarus being "worn down." It was bound to happen eventually.
 
QnebO said:
It is "Yarvi" for you, but the a is not a it's actually ä.. I'm pretty confident that commentators will never learn that one though, they didin't learn it on Selänne and he scored 670. Every one are Used to NA-style pronouncing, so I don't mind though.
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The only essential thing in human communication is not that a message follows some agreed-upon conventions, but that the recipients understand its exact meaning - even if it veers from the standard formula.

In other words, nobody should give a damn about how badly a pbp guy butchers a player's name, as long as everyone in audience know who's the guy he's talking about.


It's always worth extra props if he doesn't, though.
 
Jeepers Creeper said:
The Finns were the dominating party from the get-go, just couldn't bury it until the second half due to wasted chances, excellent goaltending and unlucky bounces.
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This, so much. The lack of scoring in the first half of the game was something perfectly natural that just happens in hockey occasionally, even when the game is completely lopsided otherwise.
 
Jeepers Creeper said:
That's not how it went down. The Finns were the dominating party from the get-go, just couldn't bury it until the second half due to wasted chances, excellent goaltending and unlucky bounces.

Disappointing start maybe, but the scoring had very little to do with Belarus being "worn down." It was bound to happen eventually.
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I disagree. Obviously the scoring was bound to happen, everyone saw that as the Finns dominated the play the opposition would start to slip sooner or later, which is what eventually made the difference that turned those "unlucky bounces" and "wasted chances" into goals. Not good enough.
 
Mara said:
I disagree. Obviously the scoring was bound to happen, everyone saw that as the Finns dominated the play the opposition would start to slip sooner or later, which is what eventually made the difference that turned those "unlucky bounces" and "wasted chances" into goals. Not good enough.
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How was Aho?
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Best player on the ice overall, even if he isn't a center.
 
Mara said:
I disagree. Obviously the scoring was bound to happen, everyone saw that as the Finns dominated the play the opposition would start to slip sooner or later, which is what eventually made the difference that turned those "unlucky bounces" and "wasted chances" into goals. Not good enough.
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The opposition didn't "slip", at no point they had the game under control. It was all Finland from the outset and was only a matter of time until they were going to generate goals and run away on the scoreboard.

You make it sound as if Belarus themselves were able to keep the score tied. It wasn't like that. Most of it was Finland not capitalizing on chances they were able to generate and the Belarus goalie taking care of the rest. As File mentioned above, these things happen in hockey and fortunately for us it didn't hold up for 60 mins.
 
Jeepers Creeper said:
The opposition didn't "slip", at no point they had the game under control. It was all Finland from the outset and was only a matter of time until they were going to generate goals and run away on the scoreboard.

You make it sound as if Belarus themselves were able to keep the score tied. It wasn't like that. Most of it was Finland not capitalizing on chances they were able to generate and the Belarus goalie taking care of the rest. As File mentioned above, these things happen in hockey and fortunately for us it didn't hold up for 60 mins.
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Yes, the opponent did indeed slip, as their game plan consisted wholly of preventing goals, not scoring them until the closing moments, and the plan worked well until the grind just became too much. Belarus, and especially their goalie, most certainly were able to keep the game tied.
 
Mara said:
Yes, the opponent did indeed slip, as their game plan consisted wholly of preventing goals, not scoring them until the closing moments, and the plan worked well until the grind just became too much. Belarus, and especially their goalie, most certainly were able to keep the game tied.
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You are high. Their plan didn't work.

On the other hand, the game was poor outing from Finland. Only 2nd line was playing well. So, there's a room for improvement. First line looked like they've come to Finland as a tourists. And 3rd and 4th line weren't shining.

- Stoat
 
Mara said:
Yes, the opponent did indeed slip, as their game plan consisted wholly of preventing goals, not scoring them until the closing moments, and the plan worked well until the grind just became too much. Belarus, and especially their goalie, most certainly were able to keep the game tied.
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Well, I guess I just have to disagree with your analysis then.

Hypothetically, if the 1st period was replayed between the two teams exactly the way it was last night, I don't see a scenario where Finland wouldn't come out on top 9 times out of 10, debunking your argument of Belarus wearing down as the reason for their ultimate downfall.
 
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