Prospect Info: 2015 NHL Entry Draft Thread | It's The Final Countdown: TODAY!

[MPStoEberletoHall*]

none of those guys (bickell, penner, lucic) were truly instrumental, Boston was still insane goaltending, and goals by committee, bickell was a healthy scratch. If your talking about just crashers, and bangers size just doesn't do it anymore.

And for all the talk of the big ol west, teams that have size (kopitar, richards) or kesler, perry, getzlaf its still about skill first. Look at St. Louis, size is great, there best player right now is Tarasenko, San Jose had size for years and years best players are still marleau, pavelski, couture.

What are you talking about? Svechnikov has both size and skill.
We are not talking about drafting him strictly for size..

 

[HeavyHitter99]

I'm curious as to why all of a sudden Svechnikov is the favorite among Oilers fans. What is it about him that everyone is so sold on?

Since most posters on here don't watch the prospects, every couple weeks they find someone to Fall in love with. Chabot after the U18, Merkley after the Memorial Cup, Samsonov after mackenzie's 1st round ranking etc etc.

 

[Johnny McBravo]

This has been the longest two weeks of my life. Please just June.26th, just be tomorrow

 

[HeavyHitter99]

Every year there is a guy that falls and with a draft this deep it might not even be considered falling. If a forward is realistically going to fall to us I hope it's Meier. Kid was amazing this year and is the total package. Added bonus of looking amazing with McDavid at the Top Prospects game

 

[R S]

Mock Draft time for me...

1. Edmonton Oilers – Connor McDavid – The Edmonton Oilers happily stride to the podium and select (arguably) the best prospect to come around since Mario Lemieux. An obvious no-brainer and a player who will finally bust the franchise out of their doldrums, leading them to a playoff spot within the next couple of years while also being a threat to challenge for a scoring title within that time frame.

If not McDavid? No one. This is an easy selection for Edmonton.

16. Edmonton Oilers (from Pitt) – Denis Guryanov – After already adding the best player in the draft, the Oilers roll the dice at pick 16 (assuming here they won’t trade it, which is surely possible) by going for big upside in forward Denis Guryanov. The Russian has some similarities to a guy like Evgeni Malkin in that he’s big, swift skating and has a rocket of a shot. He may come with some risk but Edmonton goes for big skill and upside with this selection.

If not Guryanov? Paul Bittner.

http://whl-from-above.blogspot.ca/2015/06/final-2015-mock-draft.html

 

[Canovin]

I was talking more about the player than the role he is going fill down the road. If you want a forward there's other good options too in Meier, Guryanov, Boeser, Merkley and Roslovic just to mention a few.

Personally, those guys you mentioned are all about the same. Can't go wrong with either. Would love to get 2 of each after McDavid. Hintz with Montreal pick. Lindgren with the 79th pick and a goalie in the later round. That said, this mock draft is based on the fact that Oilers will trade for Dougie Hamilton and Talbot.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Mock Draft time for me...





http://whl-from-above.blogspot.ca/2015/06/final-2015-mock-draft.html

Interesting, thanks for the post. Though if Travis Konecny and the Oilers pass, I would be pretty choked.

 

[lakai17]

Every year there is a guy that falls and with a draft this deep it might not even be considered falling. If a forward is realistically going to fall to us I hope it's Meier. Kid was amazing this year and is the total package. Added bonus of looking amazing with McDavid at the Top Prospects game

I am liking Meier a lot as well. He had 10 game winners which was second in all of the CHL. That's clutch. I don't see him sliding to the 16th.

 

[lakai17]

Imagine if one of our 2nd round picks could turn into a Duncan Keith? I really hope some of our later (outside of the 1st round...) can actually develop into actual NHL talent.

I am hoping for one of Nicolas Meloche(Baie-Comeau) or Vince Dunn(Niagra)in the 2nd round being more offensive defenceman. Preferably Meloche, being a 97 born defenceman.

 

[McDNicks17]

I'm curious as to why all of a sudden Svechnikov is the favorite among Oilers fans. What is it about him that everyone is so sold on?

Personally I think you should always go with the highest upside forward in the 1st round.

With the way it's shaken out, that seems to be Svechnikov right now.

 

[McDoused]

Mock Draft time for me...





http://whl-from-above.blogspot.ca/2015/06/final-2015-mock-draft.html

Thanks for bringing up Guryanov. I was thinking about how it's extremely likely that Hall and McDavid play together for the next 10 years or so. If that's the case, they would need a someone that can go into the corners and the dirty areas to get the puck. He also goes to the net and has the speed to keep up with those two. If we were drafting a guy specifically to play with McDavid and Hall, Guryanov is probably the best fit.

 

[Faelko]

Since most posters on here don't watch the prospects, every couple weeks they find someone to Fall in love with. Chabot after the U18, Merkley after the Memorial Cup, Samsonov after mackenzie's 1st round ranking etc etc.

I'm totally that poster...haha. But I did watch the Memorial Cup

 

[Game 8]

If we draft at #16 then our offseason will likely be a colossal fail. Unless we are dealing Drai or Yak that is our best trading chip. It would mean that we'd have to put all of our eggs in the UFA basket, that should end well.

Outside of Slepyshev and Yakimov what is so wildly optimistic? IMO we should be dealing the pick unless we can't get anything worth a damn at that point you see how close F, D and G remaining are, if they're close then go for positional need/harder player types to find via trade.

Do you think it is possible to become a Playoff team in one year? If so can you explain. I think people whos expectations are that all of the correct pieces required to rebuild this team during this one off season/FA market are being to optimistic. Its not only adding new people on the bus but the right people!

 

[Game 8]

Thanks for bringing up Guryanov. I was thinking about how it's extremely likely that Hall and McDavid play together for the next 10 years or so. If that's the case, they would need a someone that can go into the corners and the dirty areas to get the puck. He also goes to the net and has the speed to keep up with those two. If we were drafting a guy specifically to play with McDavid and Hall, Guryanov is probably the best fit.

He looks good! I would be very happy with him!

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Do you think it is possible to become a Playoff team in one year? If so can you explain. I think people whos expectations are that all of the correct pieces required to rebuild this team during this one off season/FA market are being to optimistic. Its not only adding new people on the bus but the right people!

I think that is it possible. I don't think that it's possible for us to contend in a year though.

Above average starting goalie
Top 4 RD with a big point shot
1 Top 3 defenseman
1 gritty top 6 forward

Talbot/Bernier
Green
Martin/Ehrhoff/Sekera/Trade

 

[Game 8]

I think that is it possible. I don't think that it's possible for us to contend in a year though.

Above average starting goalie
Top 4 RD with a big point shot
1 Top 3 defenseman
1 gritty top 6 forward

Talbot/Bernier
Green
Martin/Ehrhoff/Sekera/Trade

All needs for sure, and some good names to fill the holes. As with everything it depends on the cost! Talk that Bishop might be moved from Tampa this off season, again for what? Wrong thread for that. I really like this draft, Im just not sure about our scouts but if they can do even a half decent job I think we will have some good sustainable depth. That is what I am looking for!

 

[Johnny McBravo]

If Chia decides to invest on an older goalie at the draft, I have no problem with Samsonov at #16. I think it would be amazing to have a goalie prospect of that caliber in our system.

 

[BlowbyBlow]

Tarasenko is 220lbs. He is an absolute tank.

A bad choice he did really well at the combine my point is he has insane skill before size. Guys with size and only size are so ineffective in the NHL. Look at guys like the three I mentioned Bickell, Penner, and Lucic and how quickly fan bases can turn on a player, if you put the idea of playing with size first.

I don't think you don't need size, but make sure you account for ability to skate well, have some skill, ect. This is #16 in a deep draft If you took the 2015 stanley cup champs hawks

Yea guys like Toews, Seabrook, Saad, are bigger, but in the same sense they have average guys who have just strength. L.A. has bigger guys but skill in kopitar, carter (big guys) its skill, and they have guys who wear you down but they don't trade for it high in the draft (leave it to your 3rd, 4th round picks) and they don't trade for it.

Let's say that we keep the pick and the player busts, then what? This is not an exact science and **** happens. There's no reason why we can't be competing for the playoffs the season after next and with some solid acquisitions and some luck maybe even this season. Did anyone expect Calgary to make the postseason?

This comes more down to Oiler draft history. Its like the 2003 draft all over again, its a frightening thought, deep draft historically now and they get a guy who isn't even in the league anymore.

A competent scouting staff should find a guy in the draft that will be in the lineup and add depth down the road. Is this about creating a team to win for years, and years or just for one year.

I just think you need to see a team competitive enough this season to see who really is worth keeping even on this roster.

A) we don't know even now from this core who we feel is made for playoffs and eventually winning a cup; good management will figure this out
B) are we trading for a guy now (experience) that in a few years won't be on the team, and that developed pick is more valuable.
C) are we making lateral or forward moves. Most recent trades (deadline, july 1st, ect) most have been lateral moves ex. st. louis - callahan, (lateral)

http://www.nhl.com/ice/eventhome.htm?location=/deadline/2015/experience every trade on here sucks, and the player the team got for picks (they probably were better with the picks) and a lot of overpaying (hello philly)

As for July 1st, this year (not talking forwards) just d and goaltending

First off guys like Hamilton, Larsson are huge overpays. Mike Green vet but over pay.

http://thehockeywriters.com/3-unrestricted-free-agents-the-edmonton-oilers-must-pursue/
This is a list of some guys that are out there

Secondly, your not going to get any teams, #1-2 d-men so OEL, or Seth Jones, Weber, Yandle so don't be throwing out #16 unless in 3-4-5 years he is still here. Look again at the list above the over pay for a d-man not your own is a huge over pay.

Me personally I would like a guy like Franson out of Nashville, Sekera for L.A. is intriguing and Talbot (NYR), and Anderson out of Ottawa,

Most of these guys you can get with later picks (2nd, 3rd), futures (the goalies) and/or just signing (the d-men) If this was the guys they got I would consider it a success.

At some point Nurse will be in the lineup (i think he's that ready) Klefbom, Marincin, Fayne, and Ference will be there

The rest of the d not on that list gone. Move out Scrivens, and Fasth.

Forwards I dont' see a Brad Richards, or St. Louis, or even Sharp, Justin Williams being that worthwhile.

 

[BlowbyBlow]

I think that is it possible. I don't think that it's possible for us to contend in a year though.

Above average starting goalie
Top 4 RD with a big point shot
1 Top 3 defenseman
1 gritty top 6 forward

Talbot/Bernier
Green
Martin/Ehrhoff/Sekera/Trade

I gotta say i wrote my post and mentioned some of the same guys before reading yours I don't like the other d, I do like franson

If there was a forward I don't know of anyone really gritty.

I would also get to 1A, 1B goalies, and better than Scrivens.

 

[Oilception]

I would love to sign Sekera, that would be a highlight of the summer for me. If we dont get him I think we have to sign someone else (Green or Erhoff) and I also think we need to trade for 1 more top 3 defenseman (Burns type) and 1 goalie (Lehtonen/Talbot)

Signing Trade
Klefbom Fayne
Nurse/Marincin/Ference/Nikitin Schultz

Talbot
Scrivens

I think its important we can trade for some guys so we arent just throwing big money at free agents, without trades I think we are screwed

 

[lakai17]

Sekera is not even 30. He will have a nice price tag but he's worth the money definitely.

 

[dustrock]

One breakdown of draft results I saw suggested that for Euros who came over to the CHL to play junior, and we're looking at their draft year being their rookie year in the CHL, we should give some credit to slightly lower point totals when looking towards the future and NHL viability.

Certainly Draisaitl exploded from his rookie year with Prince Albert to the next year, his draft year.

Anyone have a breakdown of CHL rookies this year?

- Zacha
- Andersson
- Zboril
- Korostlev

Anyone I'm forgetting?

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

One breakdown of draft results I saw suggested that for Euros who came over to the CHL to play junior, and we're looking at their draft year being their rookie year in the CHL, we should give some credit to slightly lower point totals when looking towards the future and NHL viability.

Certainly Draisaitl exploded from his rookie year with Prince Albert to the next year, his draft year.

Anyone have a breakdown of CHL rookies this year?

- Zacha
- Andersson
- Zboril
- Korostlev

Anyone I'm forgetting?

Svechnikov

 

[40oz]

Thanks for bringing up Guryanov. I was thinking about how it's extremely likely that Hall and McDavid play together for the next 10 years or so. If that's the case, they would need a someone that can go into the corners and the dirty areas to get the puck. He also goes to the net and has the speed to keep up with those two. If we were drafting a guy specifically to play with McDavid and Hall, Guryanov is probably the best fit.

Could be, but that's also three lefties together.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Do you think it is possible to become a Playoff team in one year? If so can you explain. I think people whos expectations are that all of the correct pieces required to rebuild this team during this one off season/FA market are being to optimistic. Its not only adding new people on the bus but the right people!

It's definitely not impossible. Montreal, Calgary, Colorado and Islanders all proved how possible it is.