Prospect Info: 2015 NHL Entry Draft Thread | It's The Final Countdown: TODAY!

[MPStoEberletoHall*]

I am leaning towards Evgeni Svechnikov. His size and skill is something the Oilers could use. I know we need D-Men but if they don't trade the 16 pick then I think Evgeni Svechnikov would be the best fit for us with who will be left in the draft. With a deep draft and many picks it'll be interesting to see what happens with the Oilers after they take McDavid,

Agreed. Svechnikov would look great as our 2nd line LW in the future Imo

 

[BlowbyBlow]

Agreed. Svechnikov would look great as our 2nd line LW in the future Imo

I don't get all this debate about size, I have watched the last few years, and Lucic, Bickell, Penner, guys known for size none of them do anything.

and don't add getzlaf, perry or guys extremely skilled. who cares if a guy is big this isn't the 90's flyers and even they didn't win the cup. Look at the Hawks speed, skill, and some size. The team that wins is tactical and knows how to play in all situations.

 

[Staghorn]

Yea or Crouse for grit

Crouse or Konecny would be both tremendous picks at 16. I think they are both real winners with a great future. Same for Werenski or Provorov. If either of those guys are still available at 10-12, i think moving up with Edm 3rd or whatever is needed is in order. 3rd round picks are fun to debate a week before the draft, but in reality only a handful of those guys in the 3rd round and beyond ever make it to the ice.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

We're stacked up front, let's take hanifin with the first.

Hurr durr, we need a goalie. Lets take Samsonov first overall.

 

[Joey Moss]

Crouse at 16 isn't even worth talking about because Calgary would nab him right before us. Bennett's teammate, Burke loves players like Crouse.. that would be a very easy pick for them.

 

[MPStoEberletoHall*]

I don't get all this debate about size, I have watched the last few years, and Lucic, Bickell, Penner, guys known for size none of them do anything.

and don't add getzlaf, perry or guys extremely skilled. who cares if a guy is big this isn't the 90's flyers and even they didn't win the cup. Look at the Hawks speed, skill, and some size. The team that wins is tactical and knows how to play in all situations.

You just mentioned 5 Stanley Cup Champions. Size does matter, especially playing in the West.

 

[Canovin]

I remember seeing highlights of Svechnikov 2 years ago when he was rated somewhat top 5 and hoping Oilers can get their version of Malkin-lite. To think he will be there at 16th is unreal.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

So the plan is:
1. Address it at the draft
2. Wait a few years
3. Win?

What if the scouts think there isn't a great RHD available at 16? If they LHD will have to beat out Nurse and Klefbom, or else have to settle for a lesser role or play out of position.

The Oilers prospect pool needs help all over and I'm sure we've all seen enough evidence to support drafting the best player available. I hope the best player available at #16 is a defenseman, but if not I'd take a forward.

If we draft at #16 then our offseason will likely be a colossal fail. Unless we are dealing Drai or Yak that is our best trading chip. It would mean that we'd have to put all of our eggs in the UFA basket, that should end well.

This. BB's projected top 9 in 2018 is wildly optimistic, but even if it all pans out (and it won't), an added scoring forward on his ELC isn't exactly a bad problem to have. Who knows what the team will look like in the 2-3 years a forward prospect will take to mature or even the 3-6 years it'll take for a defense prospect to mature?

BPA, whoever that is.

Outside of Slepyshev and Yakimov what is so wildly optimistic? IMO we should be dealing the pick unless we can't get anything worth a damn at that point you see how close F, D and G remaining are, if they're close then go for positional need/harder player types to find via trade.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

If we draft at #16 then our offseason will likely be a colossal fail. Unless we are dealing Drai or Yak that is our best trading chip. It would mean that we'd have to put all of our eggs in the UFA basket, that should end well.



Outside of Slepyshev and Yakimov what is so wildly optimistic? IMO we should be dealing the pick unless we can't get anything worth a damn at that point you see how close F, D and G remaining are, if they're close then go for positional need/harder player types to find via trade.

I think those guys are equally as risky as chase, khaira, ...."moroz"....even ewanyk, pakarinen, pitlick...curd hamilton,,,,curd

 

[BlowbyBlow]

You just mentioned 5 Stanley Cup Champions. Size does matter, especially playing in the West.

none of those guys (bickell, penner, lucic) were truly instrumental, Boston was still insane goaltending, and goals by committee, bickell was a healthy scratch. If your talking about just crashers, and bangers size just doesn't do it anymore.

And for all the talk of the big ol west, teams that have size (kopitar, richards) or kesler, perry, getzlaf its still about skill first. Look at St. Louis, size is great, there best player right now is Tarasenko, San Jose had size for years and years best players are still marleau, pavelski, couture.

 

[BlowbyBlow]

If we draft at #16 then our offseason will likely be a colossal fail. Unless we are dealing Drai or Yak that is our best trading chip. It would mean that we'd have to put all of our eggs in the UFA basket, that should end well.



Outside of Slepyshev and Yakimov what is so wildly optimistic? IMO we should be dealing the pick unless we can't get anything worth a damn at that point you see how close F, D and G remaining are, if they're close then go for positional need/harder player types to find via trade.

I know its a different sport but when the Cavs traded wiggens and bennet this year I thought this is why G.M.'s don't enable fantasy or fandom because you don't think of all scenarios.

I am from out east and this is why Toronto never could win a cup it was always get veterans or guys with experience.

This team isn't ready and there is a huge difference between making a trade now vs in 3 years when you know what you have. I know fans are impatient now, and Mcdavid is going to make it moreso.

However, when is the last meaningful game this team has seen where you can say this is what we got, I'm not even talking playoff game, I'm talking just about meaningful game when they had a chance at playoffs.

You trade Marincin, Draisaitl, Klefbom or anyone and this team will be in the same place 3 years from now.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I know its a different sport but when the Cavs traded wiggens and bennet this year I thought this is why G.M.'s don't enable fantasy or fandom because you don't think of all scenarios.

I am from out east and this is why Toronto never could win a cup it was always get veterans or guys with experience.

This team isn't ready and there is a huge difference between making a trade now vs in 3 years when you know what you have. I know fans are impatient now, and Mcdavid is going to make it moreso.

However, when is the last meaningful game this team has seen where you can say this is what we got, I'm not even talking playoff game, I'm talking just about meaningful game when they had a chance at playoffs.

You trade Marincin, Draisaitl, Klefbom or anyone and this team will be in the same place 3 years from now.

Let's say that we keep the pick and the player busts, then what? This is not an exact science and **** happens. There's no reason why we can't be competing for the playoffs the season after next and with some solid acquisitions and some luck maybe even this season. Did anyone expect Calgary to make the postseason?

 

[McQuixote]

Outside of Slepyshev and Yakimov what is so wildly optimistic?

That the Lander of the last 3 months of the season is more indicative of the "real" Lander than the one of the last 3 years.

That Pouliot will be a legit Top 9 option in 3 years time.

That Yakupov will maintain (or find?) a level that justifies a top 9 slot while not pricing himself out of one on a team with a lot of money tied up in skill forwards.

All of those things coming up Aces is pretty optimistic.

The problem with saying "trade the pick" is that you have to deliver a realistic "for...". I think it's a great idea if you can get proper value for it and deliver a legitimate player who'll be here for a few years to help turn this thing around. But without knowing what offers are on the table, it's kind of futile to insist on or even just express a preference for moving it.

Best Player Available, be it a forward, defenseman, or veteran. But get good value for the pick and above all else: don't eff it up.

 

[DipsyMcDoodles]

I'm still with that guy that said Hall, Nuge, and Yak should be the ones to greet McDavid when he gets on the stage

The Triple Entente adds another to become the Fantastic Four

 

[Fourier]

none of those guys (bickell, penner, lucic) were truly instrumental, Boston was still insane goaltending, and goals by committee, bickell was a healthy scratch. If your talking about just crashers, and bangers size just doesn't do it anymore.

And for all the talk of the big ol west, teams that have size (kopitar, richards) or kesler, perry, getzlaf its still about skill first. Look at St. Louis, size is great, there best player right now is Tarasenko, San Jose had size for years and years best players are still marleau, pavelski, couture.

Tarasenko is 220lbs. He is an absolute tank.

 

[Zaddy]

I'm curious as to why all of a sudden Svechnikov is the favorite among Oilers fans. What is it about him that everyone is so sold on?

 

[McDrai]

I'm still with that guy that said Hall, Nuge, and Yak should be the ones to greet McDavid when he gets on the stage

The Triple Entente adds another to become the Fantastic Four

And then TSN and SN would be talking about it for weeks as it appears to be taunting the other Nhl teams (See Omark; Yakupov)

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

I'm curious as to why all of a sudden Svechnikov is the favorite among Oilers fans. What is it about him that everyone is so sold on?

size, strength, skill, shot and YouTube highlights

 

[Canovin]

I'm curious as to why all of a sudden Svechnikov is the favorite among Oilers fans. What is it about him that everyone is so sold on?

Because when RNH, Hall, Eberle contracts are up and they ask for 8M+, we know guys like Svechnikov is 4 years developed and ready to fill those shoes. The only real untouchables on the Oilers will only be McDavid, RNH/Draisaitl, and Nurse/Klefbom.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

In October, i'll be attending a Moncton vs. Halifax and Moncton vs. Cape Breton game. So selfishly I hope we draft Svechnikov so I can watch an Oilers prospect up close for once.

 

[lakai17]

I'm curious as to why all of a sudden Svechnikov is the favorite among Oilers fans. What is it about him that everyone is so sold on?

I am still sold on Samsonov.

 

[BarDownBobo]

I don't get all this debate about size, I have watched the last few years, and Lucic, Bickell, Penner, guys known for size none of them do anything.

and don't add getzlaf, perry or guys extremely skilled. who cares if a guy is big this isn't the 90's flyers and even they didn't win the cup. Look at the Hawks speed, skill, and some size. The team that wins is tactical and knows how to play in all situations.

If you're trying to say the main reason people want Svechnikov is his size, you're completely wrong.

 

[Zaddy]

Because when RNH, Hall, Eberle contracts are up and they ask for 8M+, we know guys like Svechnikov is 4 years developed and ready to fill those shoes. The only real untouchables on the Oilers will only be McDavid, RNH/Draisaitl, and Nurse/Klefbom.

I was talking more about the player than the role he is going fill down the road. If you want a forward there's other good options too in Meier, Guryanov, Boeser, Merkley and Roslovic just to mention a few.

In October, i'll be attending a Moncton vs. Halifax and Moncton vs. Cape Breton game. So selfishly I hope we draft Svechnikov so I can watch an Oilers prospect up close for once.

Cape Breton is a lot more than just Svechnikov so you shouldn't be disappointed either way. For this years draft obviously Loik Leveille and Maxim Lazarev but for next year I really like Pierre-Luc Dubois and they'll likely have highly rated '99 born Shane Bowers too.

If I were to watch a Q team next year though it'd be Saint Johns or Charlottetown. They're going to be real good. On a side note I really like d-man Ryan MacKinnon who just finished his junior career with Charlottetown. Was the captain both there and in Rimouski the year before. Played as an overager this year but really seem to have turned a corner. He's a guy I wanna invite to camp. Was invited to the Sabres camp last year but didn't get a contract. He's a right-handed shot too so if nothing else he'd provide some good depth in Bakersfield.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

I was talking more about the player than the role he is going fill down the road. If you want a forward there's other good options too in Meier, Guryanov, Boeser, Merkley and Roslovic just to mention a few.



Cape Breton is a lot more than just Svechnikov so you shouldn't be disappointed either way. For this years draft obviously Loik Leveille and Maxim Lazarev but for next year I really like Pierre-Luc Dubois and they'll likely have highly rated '99 born Shane Bowers too.

If I were to watch a Q team next year though it'd be Saint Johns or Charlottetown. They're going to be real good. On a side note I really like d-man Ryan MacKinnon who just finished his junior career with Charlottetown. Was the captain both there and in Rimouski the year before. Played as an overager this year but really seem to have turned a corner. He's a guy I wanna invite to camp. Was invited to the Sabres camp last year but didn't get a contract. He's a right-handed shot too so if nothing else he'd provide some good depth in Bakersfield.

I'm well aware of all the other good players playing for Cape Breton, especially Bowers but since this is HFOil I kept my thoughts to Svechnikov but I agree, it will be exciting to see all the other players you mentioned.

I was hoping to catch Saint John while I was down there since they have one of the top rosters in the Q. There is a game against Blainville-Boisbriand that interests me greatly since i'm a big fan of their goaltender Samuel Montembeault and I'd love to see him play against a quality team like Saint John.

 

[Crabapple]

Imagine if one of our 2nd round picks could turn into a Duncan Keith? I really hope some of our later (outside of the 1st round...) can actually develop into actual NHL talent.