2015-2016 Roster Talk: Kings Have no Elite Players Edition

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If Lucic discounts to 5mill longterm, does moving King free up enough space? Lucics on about 3m now and King on about 2m isn't he?

Lucic is not taking a pay cut, No player does. Lucic's contract is 50% retained right now.

Further more,

Lucic, looking at career production and trajectory, Lucic is a (less) productive Dustin Brown(in his prime). You folks want the Kings to sign this guy for 6-7 million dollars a year ? Lucic has 2G in his last 20 games played, only 1PP goal all year.

You pay guys like Toffoli 6-7 million dollars a year, not Lucic.
 
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Lucic is not taking a pay cut, No player does. Lucic's contract is 50% retained right now.

I guess it depends if he wants to stay here, we are probably not going to be able to offer much more. I know hes getting retained a lot now, but hes costing us about three. Just saying that although King has been a great soldier, i'd move him if we could keep Lucic. We have LW depth and Kempe a year or two off. May as well move from an area of depth.
 
Lucic doesn't have the Kings over a barrel like Kopitar did.

So I trust Lombardi will be far more realistic about what Lucic is worth.

The guy is a 20G scorer right now, not a 30G scorer, he is not worth 6-7 million a year. Lucic is Dustin Brown lite(when Brown was in his Prime).
 
Since the 2010 season, Kopi has scored 118 goals and Lucic 117.

Also in Brown's prime he was on pace with Kopitar, so what ? Kopitar is not even an annual 30G scorer, but he sure as heck does a lot more than Brown/Lucic.

There is a reason Boston traded Lucic, and his salary for his provided production, had a lot to do with it.

The Kings would need to rid themselves of Brown to make Lucic a possibility to resign. I just don't see that happening.
 
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Lucic is a year younger than Kopi, and Kopi just got 10M@8. Yeah, Kopi had all the power, but I think you're underestimating what Lucic brings to the team. If Lucic truly wants to be here, and Lombardi wants to sign him, it'll happen.
 
Lucic is exactly what prime Brown was. Love the guy, was super excited when the Kings acquired him, and I'll be happy when the Kings move on.
 
If Lucic discounts to 5mill longterm, does moving King free up enough space? Lucics on about 3m now and King on about 2m isn't he?

It's going to depend on the cap. Since there's no real accurate predictions out there (unless you believe the tinfoil hat guys) we're going to have to wait for the number. King right now only makes around 1.95 so moving King and replacing him with a 0.5-1M contract doesn't free up a lot of cap space. Don't think it's enough to entertain moving King to free cap.

As far as retaining Lucic, I'm sure Lombardi has his mind set to it as Lucic embodies Kings hockey.

Now if the cap goes up Kings shouldn't have much of an issue... if the cap doesn't go up Kings will need to look at cutting cap space. That's Brown or Gaborik because the size of their contracts, and what they're contributing. Brown can easily be replaced at this point. I'd rather have Lewis logging his time.

As for the "Brown Light"... Lucic brings something Brown can't. It's size. Lucic also has the ability to hold the puck, then move in order to open a passing lane between himself and a line mate to get them a shot. This is something I don't remember seeing from Brown in a very long time. Lucic is able to to be played in the top 6 without shutting down production, unlike Brown. Also Lucic is intimidating. I've seen him go into the corner and come out with the puck because the defender bailed on the play. No one is running from Brown.

If Lucic walks the Kings are right back where they were last year with Brown on the top line... which means Lewis is on the top line shortly after everyone realizes it won't work and Sutter gives up.... it's a good way to miss the playoffs.

Size... when Mersch comes back up.... the 220+ club is going to look like Kopitar/Lucic/King/Mersch/Nolan... that's a lot of size and that's going to be very hard for teams to hide smaller defenders.

Lucic even when he isn't producing is still contributing unlike captain faceplant.

The singing him long term is a mistake people... Kopi/Carter are 28/31 years old. They will eventually reach the point of not being able to compete for a cup as a 1/2 C in the future. In 3 years at 31/34? Maybe, 4 years, 32/35 will they still be able to compete at a high level? Without a replacement for either, or the assets to pull off a Carter/Richards trade the Kings will go into a rebuild mode at that point. Lucic sucking in 3-4 years for the second have of his contract won't matter at that point. The only downside is if the Kings manage to extend their cup window by finding some high end talent, unlikely while drafting in the back half. They can deal with that if it arises.

How many points has Kopi put up since being put with Lucic recently?

I'm not worried... You know Lombardi's going to do everything he can.
 
What a ****ing joke that main board is.

There is so much hatred for Quick that it is oozing out of the built-in speakers of my computer. Talking to those ****-tards is like trying to move a large, heavy piece of furniture by yourself: you know it's stupid, yet you still try, and you end up ****ing something up along the way (furniture, carpet, walls, etc.). Gotta wonder who is more stupid...the ****-tard or yourself.

It's okay. Every Quick playoff win will be like sticking a finger in their eye. I'm thinking Quick goes 16-9 this year in the playoffs.
 
Also in Brown's prime he was on pace with Kopitar, so what ? Kopitar is not even an annual 30G scorer, but he sure as heck does a lot more than Brown/Lucic.

There is a reason Boston traded Lucic, and his salary for his provided production, had a lot to do with it.

The Kings would need to rid themselves of Brown to make Lucic a possibility to resign. I just don't see that happening.

But you said there was a plan, and I asked you whose plan was that? You still haven't addressed it. It sure isn't the Kings' plan to let him walk, and Lucic has expressed his desire to stay on the team past this season.
 
There's no doubt Lucic fits our style perfectly.

But paying him $6M (likely $7M) a year on a long term deal... its going to end up EXACTLY like Brown's contract.

If we can do 2 years at that kind of money, I do it all day long. But if he's looking for 6-8 years, it just cant happen.
 
What happens if you break your femur during the first game of that two year contract?

But I agree, I'll play for the league minimum!
 
Andy Tonge ‏@AndyTonge1 7s7 seconds ago
Derek Forbort seems to be a last minute scratch. Took warm-ups with Gravel. Now replaced by Raine, who was not in warm-ups at all.
 
I think it's pretty clear we're getting another d-man at some point.

Doubt DL wants to crash and burn with Ehrhoff playing regular minutes.
 
Andy Tonge ‏@AndyTonge1 7s7 seconds ago
Derek Forbort seems to be a last minute scratch. Took warm-ups with Gravel. Now replaced by Raine, who was not in warm-ups at all.

DL saw ehrhoff's first period and decided to protect Forbort from injury ;)

...really though I hate being down on a generally likeable guy like Ehrhoff and he's had a good career but he has no place on a contender's roster, just too mistake prone.
 
Forbort hurt, LBI per reign insider.

Get the feeling we're going to see a steady rotation of Ehrror and McBain until someone can get some consistency for the next month or so until the big move ;)
 
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