2015-2016 Roster Talk: Kings Have no Elite Players Edition

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I highly doubt it. They haven't been a factor at all.

What the penalties or the players listed? We gave up 3 PPG's against the ducks, I could understand why sutter wouldn't want our "tough guys" giving up penalties against the ducks with their powerplay running that hot.
 
stuff to take from the lombardi presser...

gaborik should be back PRIOR to the playoffs... but it will be "very very close to their start". great news that it's 8-10 not 10-12 weeks. also took a little dig at him saying his recovery time relies on how hard he works towards rehabbing it.

they had no plans to make any trades today but fielded calls, nothing blew him away and hinted that the cap space would be used for returning players. which he hinted wasn't gaborik included... so maybe greene is closer to a return as well as nolan.

a greene with 15-20 games and gas in the tank > him after 82. especially if he's been working out as hard and is in the shape jim fox said he was a couple games back in the broadcast.

I thought Greene was done for the season, did I miss something?
 
I thought Greene was done for the season, did I miss something?

The ever-so-reliable mayor said Greene could be back before the end of the season, Jim Fox said Greene looks good the other night, and someone who saw Greene at Tip-A-King asked Greene about him coming back this season and apparently Greene said he "absolutely will be back."
 
Greene has been skating, FWIW. From a few audio sources.

Also, thought this DL interview was a really phenomenal look at his thought process, and I like how he alludes to what we all knew but other fans thought opposite of--DL basically said, no, you're not trying to go "well Chicago added x so we have to..." because that's dangerous. Stay with your plan.

But curious about the boldfaced (after an awesome paragraph):

http://lakingsinsider.com/2016/02/29/lombardi-explains-trade-conversations-deadline-approach/

“Rob was fairly easy,” he said. “The biggest thing to it as you saw that work out, that in keeping your eye on the cap and then the thing with Rob was obviously next year’s salary. Like, I could’ve gotten him earlier, but there was an issue in the money the next year. But the way that is now structured, it was almost like you’re not going to get a better player than that for what we’re going to end up playing, and then it becomes the issue of, OK, before we did it, we went back and Darryl and the coaches and I and Blakey, we sat and watched Rob’s game in Pittsburgh and Chicago, and then we put in the games that he played in the conference finals with us before he left and then tried to make a decision on ‘was the drop-off,’ so-to-speak, an issue of his slower or whatever, or maybe the role and the fit not being right and him being caught in between, and I think all that work was being done, we got permission from Chicago to talk to him before, and one thing good about it is he knows what Darryl expects, and I talked to him about the team now, and the other thing too about moving his family. It was critical that one of the reasons I think he left was because his wife wanted to be closer to his family. ‘I don’t want you coming out here if your wife’s staying back east,’ and she was all excited. And the guy, he commands a lot of respect in that room. And like I said, for giving what we have to pay him, as well as fitting in, it’s almost like, ‘Well, it makes too much sense,’ and then on [Versteeg], you’re right. You’ve seen us do that before, right, when we got Stoll, or Mike. It was either guys who had been to the finals or won. A lot of those veterans had been in that position, and certainly Versteeg fits that. And the other thing, too, is Darryl’s very familiar with Versteeg, so even though we’re not as familiar with him as maybe a Scuderi having been here, there’s also a history with Versteeg with the Sutter family, if you go back to his time in Alberta. But the winning part you’re talking about, absolutely. It’s a war zone. You better know what you’re getting into. Now I think we just got a taste of that last night.”

What's the Versteeg/Sutter connection??
 
Some notable moments from Dean's conference call that stood out to me...

Deadline - The plan was in place long before the deadline. Not much changed and the course didn't stray.

Success - "They've never blown a division lead, this is new turf. I'd like to have a 20 point lead and I still wouldn't be comfortable. It's time for the big players on this team to step up and make sure this team doesn't blow it."

"I don't have any experience staying on top and it's really tough. I have no experience to be completely honest. It's really tough and I'm learning about it. We're re-evaluating our plan constantly and we started a new process a couple months ago for a five year plan."

Sekera - The Sekera fallout really changed things. Big time. Sounds like a definite turning point. This core let Dean down big time.

Trades - "One of the biggest things is acquiring players who have been there before and won. Big stage players."

Scuderi - "You aren't getting a better player than that for that little of investment." All of the Kings brass sat down and watched his performance as a King in the big games, Pittsburgh, and Chicago. "Was the drop off an age issue or a fit issue? ... I didn't want him coming out West if his wife and family weren't coming."

Chicago - "I don't feel any pressure over what moves Chicago made. We stuck to our plan and didn't budge. I knew Stan was getting Ladd so that's why I retained on Ehrhoff. I wanted Scuderi, period."

Gaborik - "How fast he heals and how hard he works."

Sutter Deal - "We'll be calling him up in the calling weeks. Kopitar will be knocked down a line and he'll take his minutes." Wouldn't be shocked to see him on the Kings eventually.

Lots of these points have been brought up on this board, but it's always interesting when Dean confirms it.
 
Sekera - The Sekera fallout really changed things. Big time. Sounds like a definite turning point. This core let Dean down big time.

And that's the one which resonated to me. A couple of us saying Dean had to trade bigger assets (Kempe ect) to acquire Hamhuis or Vrbata or Boekker or some other midrange piece which wouldn't amount to proper impact in the playoffs. Better to stay the course than gamble again and lose.
 
I thought Greene was done for the season, did I miss something?

It's called, oh now we don't need the LTIR cap space, go ahead a be healthy again. Although, if both Gaborik and Greene come back prior to the playoffs, the Kings must be really tight on the cap space?
 
I'm not convinced getting Schenn and Scuderi made our D any better. We've got more physical, but much slower. Which one works the best, we'll keep finding out. DS keeps experimenting with the D. At some point, he's going to have to decide and make up his mind about what works the best for him, and then that arrangement get settled in and ready and comfortable for the playoffs. The rate he's going, how could some of these guys be comfortable at all. Maybe DS doesn't want anyone to get comfortable? I don't know. It could be part of the method to his madness.
 
Im probably forgetting someone, but healthy, honestly, our forward lineup is nasty good, this is what I would try:

Lucic-Kopitar-Toffoli
Pearson-Carter-Versteeg
Mersch-Vinny-Gaborik
King-Lewis-Brown

Shore, Clifford, Nolan, Andreoff.

Doughty-Muzzin
Martinez-Schenn
McNabb-Scuderi

McBain, (Greene), whatevs

I'm not sure at all how the D will align and work, all I know for sure is icetime will be distributed Doughty-Muzzin-Martinez-Scuds/Schenn-#6.
 
Gabby being able to play both side of the wing is such a plus. Our lineup is solid. This is why, I wasn't really concerned about the hawx acquisitions. The addition of Versteeg is definitely a plus, especially until Gabby gets back healthy. I especially love that Pearson appears to have finally fully healed from his leg injury.
 
Im probably forgetting someone, but healthy, honestly, our forward lineup is nasty good, this is what I would try:

Lucic-Kopitar-Toffoli
Pearson-Carter-Versteeg
Mersch-Vinny-Gaborik
King-Lewis-Brown

Shore, Clifford, Nolan, Andreoff.

Doughty-Muzzin
Martinez-Schenn
McNabb-Scuderi

McBain, (Greene), whatevs

I'm not sure at all how the D will align and work, all I know for sure is icetime will be distributed Doughty-Muzzin-Martinez-Scuds/Schenn-#6.

if everyone's healthy, i doubt Mersch gets a shot over Clifford, Nolan, and Andreoff in the playoffs
 
Im probably forgetting someone, but healthy, honestly, our forward lineup is nasty good, this is what I would try:

Lucic-Kopitar-Toffoli
Pearson-Carter-Versteeg
Mersch-Vinny-Gaborik
King-Lewis-Brown

Shore, Clifford, Nolan, Andreoff.

Doughty-Muzzin
Martinez-Schenn
McNabb-Scuderi

McBain, (Greene), whatevs

I'm not sure at all how the D will align and work, all I know for sure is icetime will be distributed Doughty-Muzzin-Martinez-Scuds/Schenn-#6.

Mersch just isn't ready for 3rd line duty. Switch Brown/King in his spot. I'd be surprised to see him at all during the playoffs or used sparingly .
 
"I don't have any experience staying on top and it's really tough. I have no experience to be completely honest. It's really tough and I'm learning about it. We're re-evaluating our plan constantly and we started a new process a couple months ago for a five year plan."

Trade Brown, find the money for Lucic, give Toffoli and Pearson their paydays, continue moving guys like Kempe, Dowd, Mersch, Gravel, etc up to the main roster while getting picks for older players here and there? That's what it sounds like to me, try to remain a contender while shifting duties to the next generation.
 
Im probably forgetting someone, but healthy, honestly, our forward lineup is nasty good, this is what I would try:

Lucic-Kopitar-Toffoli
Pearson-Carter-Versteeg
Mersch-Vinny-Gaborik
King-Lewis-Brown

Shore, Clifford, Nolan, Andreoff.

Doughty-Muzzin
Martinez-Schenn
McNabb-Scuderi

McBain, (Greene), whatevs

I'm not sure at all how the D will align and work, all I know for sure is icetime will be distributed Doughty-Muzzin-Martinez-Scuds/Schenn-#6.

its really not that bad at all. our defense is WAY better than Dallas'. DD/Muzz is hawt fire, Martinez is way better than he was a few years ago and Schenn is coming into his own as a solid, physical defenseman.. the one problem I see is McNabb, but hopefully Greene can slot in his place if need be. we always have Jeff Schultz in Ontario as well...he wasnt so bad in the playoffs in 2014
 
forward depth is fine, good even. probably best overall forward depth we've had in the last few years tbh, our bottom six will really do some damage if other teams aren't careful.

as long as the terrific trio of Doughty/Muzzin/Martinez and Our Lord and Savior Quick can carry the back end of this whole shindig through another 25+ playoff games, i like our chances as much as anyone this year.
 
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