Salary Cap: 2015 - 2016 New York Rangers Roster Building Thread Part VI
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Joey Bones
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There is love for White, but at #16, there is better love to be had at.
#SexualInnuendosAreNotMyStrongest
Joey Bones
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Joey Bones
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IMO Talbot is a late bloomer. Could very well get the Tim Thomas treatment.
But I guess we'll agree to disagree then....
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I'll just leave this link here for you all to read.... 
http://www.tsn.ca/mckenzie-on-free-agents-trades-and-more-1.307528
http://www.tsn.ca/mckenzie-on-free-agents-trades-and-more-1.307528
Sure. Schneider is still regarded around BC. His legacy (I don't know how long) still somehow is talked about.
He was a higher pick. Much higher, when you consider Talbot was undrafted.
But in terms of hype? Talbot narrative was PUMPED up our ***** all throughout every hockey provider. Not for nothing, but everyone recognized the job Talbot gave when Hank went down. Part of Hank going down, in this regard, was how much exposure it got throughout hockey spheres. Rangers had just come out as "the team to beat", and he went down. By all accounts, his injury was devastating, and the media only emphasized this, too.
Talbot led us to 1st in the league, improving with every single game as a starter.
It is not like Talbot is an unknown anymore. It is not like he is underrated around the league. And the fact that the Rangers have a former, and quite outspoken, front office member in Edmonton's now, leaking information about how in love he is with his once former organization member... does wonders for what Edmonton will *probably* offer, and also for what other teams that have taken notice and undoubtedly hoped would be able to acquire Talbot as a steal will have to pay to pry him away from Edmonton's figurative grasp.
Sure. Pedigree is absolutely important. It shouldn't be. But it is. No argument. But I think the exposure and recognition Talbot got by EVERY outlet this season... it more than brings him up to Schneider's at time of trade. In fact, the lovefest hangover is probably better for Talbot than what surrounded Schneider at time of trade. If you remember, the Canucks media was tearing every bit of that team to shreds, and Schneider was not always exempt.
I think they're identical, minus the 1 extra season. That 1 extra season decreases value, somewhat, because the argument for higher risk is more inherent. More of an unknown bears a higher risk. 2 seasons of this play isn't as repetitive as 3 (thank you i'm as advanced mathematically as Stephen Hawking). And for that, I would argue that instead of the #9 pick, somewhere from 15-25 is in fact, fair value. That's steep if you assign point values to picks like the NFL does. 9 to even 20 is quite a noticeable value difference. But I think it is warranted, considering we don't have the luxury of having Talbot for more than 1 year after this.
And dissecting both of their contract statuses... RFA vs. 1 year contract... that is a wash, too.
16 pick for Talbot alone, IMO, is PERFECT value. And totally justified.
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There is love for White, but at #16, there is better love to be had at.
#SexualInnuendosAreNotMyStrongest
Well played.
I actually have White over Konecny but I am probably in the minority there.
I'll just leave this link here for you all to read....
http://www.tsn.ca/mckenzie-on-free-agents-trades-and-more-1.307528
****, Kessel is really going to come here, isn't he?
Joey Bones
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I think the 16th pick for Talbot is overpayment on Edmonton's side, and I won't believe it until it happens.
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16th for Talbot is edge Rangers IMO but not too crazy to not be believable. That would be a solid deal that you have to make.
He would obviously be a stretch at 16 but Jeremy Bracco is absolutely electric. Going to BC to follow on the Gionta-Gerbe-Gaudreau "little guy" path.
He would obviously be a stretch at 16 but Jeremy Bracco is absolutely electric. Going to BC to follow on the Gionta-Gerbe-Gaudreau "little guy" path.
The traditional returns for goaltenders not being too good - and thats for starting goaltenders. Despite his great play here, Talbot is still no sure thing to be a consistent starting goalie, and I think most teams wouldn't put 1st round value into that risk.
And also the almost Milano path. No idea what the BJs stopped him from being under the tutelage of Jerry York.
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I just think that there are a lot of guys out there that are really good. I don't quite get how Schneider can be ranked above all of them without having won a game in the POs, without having won 25 games during a NHL season etc etc etc. I mean, Holtby is good. Anderson is good. Varlamov is good. Bishop is good, albeit tired right now. Ramo is good. You can go on and on and list 20 guys like that after the established elite, Price, Hank, Quick and co. It certainly seem like Schneider is getting by due to having a good pedigree. What separates most of these guys from my POV is how they perform when it really really matters, in the POs etc. Schneider hasn't even been there...
I agree on Talbkt though. I would want to see more.
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Can we find four millions in our book somehow?
literally zero chance unless they're willing to take back salary (at least half)
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Not about his ping pong back hand shot though. Can't talk **** about that. Filthy.
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