You guys need to loosen up the trade restrictions on Kreider. When he's ready for Hart nominations, Hank is going to be ready for buyout negotiations. I love Kreider but if he can land is an amazing piece to get whole hank is still king we need to do it. Period.
Speculation: 2014 Offseason - Roster Building / Trade Speculation Thread
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BlueshirtBlitz
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Joe put up 76 points this season going up against top lines and dominating possession, at 34 years old.
Richards put up 51 points this year going up against much weaker competition. He had a very good regular season but disappeared in the Finals.
Joe is a better Brad Richards.
aufheben
#Norris4Fox
Loosen trade restrictions on the 23-year-old power forward. Yeah, that won't bite us in the ass.
Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
He was talking about when Brad Richards was a free agent and we were signing him. Not this year. Thought that would be kind of obvious to infer.
None of them. I think the best available option is to buy-out Richards, sign as much as the current team as possible and then scour the market for a center upgrade.
This Stastny, ROR, Spezza stuff? No thanks.
He was talking about the season leading up to his free agency. The same stuff was being said. And then Richards fell off the face of the planet.
His point was that its the same story but different player.
"Scour the market for a center upgrade" who is cheap, affordable, and a game changer.
Yup. Put that under the unrealistic player list that you sarcastically called out -31- for earlier.
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aufheben
#Norris4Fox
You're missing the point. Richards' last 2 seasons in Dallas he put up 91 and 77 points, everyone said "A player like him won't just fall of the Earth". So, sign him for a long/big deal, fast forward a few years, and the guy's on our 4th line in SCF en route to being bought out.
Just because they're playmakers doesn't mean their games won't go to ****. Only differences are that Richards was younger than 34 when we signed him, and we didn't have to give up assets to get him.
BlueshirtBlitz
Foolish Samurai
But that has no bearing on anything.
Joe is 34-35 doing what he's doing. Without having to look at the past or the future, Brad Richards is 34-35 and worse.
Brad was 31(?) when we signed him. If you're 34-35 playing as good as Joe Thornton is, it's much less likely that you'll hit a rapid decline, ESPECIALLY when you'd come into a situation where you're playing weaker competition.
The Rangers don't have the assets nor the team composition that makes trading for Joe likely, but you guys are severely underrating him even if he is an *******.
edit- I know what he was saying. What you guys are missing is that Joe Thornton has always been better than Brad Richards, and if he's doing what he's doing at 34 instead of 30 he's much more likely in the mold of MSL than Brad Richards.
SingnBluesOnBroadway
Retired
You have some interesting selective memory. Carter was not scratching the surface. He was awful for the RangersHis best seasons were behind him. And had only one good season after the Rangers traded him. But nice try. He was also 29 when the Rangers traded him.
Oh and there was no salary cap.
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Guess what, besides Stastny (who might be overpaid), the center market is pretty terrible.
For a rookie, producing at a rate of over .5 ppg, seems pretty solid to me, no? There are players in this league that can't produce over .5 ppg after being in the league for 5-6 years.
edit: #1 overall pick aleksander barkov produced at under a .5 ppg clip in his rookie campaign.
To put this in context:
Mackinnon - .77 ppg
Palat - .73 ppg
Johnson - .61ppg
The 3 Calder finalists that weren't defenders.
Kreider - .56 ppg
Barkov - .44 ppg
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Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
FA market? Trade market? Potential targets? It is easy to shoot down other ideas but give no ideas of your own.
Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
Or this could be the year he slows down. You never know. You're playing with fire with all these old guys.
What does this mean exactly? Does it mean bet the ranch and try to get Hank a cup? I'm hoping hank has at least 5 more great seasons in him and a few more good ones. Perhaps even more great seasons. But the worst thing an organization can do is try to push for something that isn't there just to either please one player, or time may be ticking on that one player.
aufheben
#Norris4Fox
You say amazing piece and yet you keep offering him up for Ryan Kesler, who is an overrated #2C who is constantly battling injuries and doesn't want to play for this coach.
Glen Sathers Cigar
Sather 4 Ever
Is it the same story though? Richards was never a player to drive puck possession and racked up PP points, whereas Thornton has been an elite puck possession player for a long time. Good on PP and 5v5.
SingnBluesOnBroadway
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Glen Sathers Cigar
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Kreider was very clearly a catalyst for this team offensively. Why would we trade him away? He should be way up on the do not trade list, just under Hank and McD.
His speed, size, net front presence...all of those are things we lack as is, yet we should trade the one player who has those things? And is also only 23?
SingnBluesOnBroadway
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NikC
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Who are we getting to replace his skill set? The Rangers haven't had an player like him since forever. ..
we dont make it out of the second and third rounds if not for him.
Trading a strength is not the way to address a weakness
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