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Speculation: 2014 Offseason - Roster Building / Trade Speculation Thread V

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17futurecap said:
Feels different for every case, I'm sure Pouliot is so pumped that he has finally worked his way out of 1 year deal territory. I saw Sather's quote about him having chemistry and he should sacrifice some cash to stay here, and if I'm Pouliot I'm not really sure I can buy that. I'm not going to get on guys if they want to cash in.
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I don't think Penoit is in for the same kind of deal he thinks he might be.

If he is, the team offering is out of their heads. He offered size and puck protection on the Brassard line but he was basically playing the Brad Isbister role. He's only useful whil ehe's here.
 
Fitzy said:
I don't think Penoit is in for the same kind of deal he thinks he might be.

If he is, the team offering is out of their heads. He offered size and puck protection on the Brassard line but he was basically playing the Brad Isbister role. He's only useful whil ehe's here.
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I'll give him credit for at least Marcel Hossa.
 
17futurecap said:
Feels different for every case, I'm sure Pouliot is so pumped that he has finally worked his way out of 1 year deal territory. I saw Sather's quote about him having chemistry and he should sacrifice some cash to stay here, and if I'm Pouliot I'm not really sure I can buy that. I'm not going to get on guys if they want to cash in.
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No, because Pouliot put up very similar results as he did for the past three seasons.

People tend to be very generous with other people's money.
 
Fitzy said:
I don't think Penoit is in for the same kind of deal he thinks he might be.

If he is, the team offering is out of their heads. He offered size and puck protection on the Brassard line but he was basically playing the Brad Isbister role. He's only useful whil ehe's here.
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I guess we will see, I'm sure his agent has deals on the table from the week talking to teams even if that's not "legal" to do.

He has put up the same 30-40 points everywhere he goes, seems like a player in what you know you are going to get.
 
What is wrong with signing Dominic Moore for 3 years? You know exactly what you are getting from him. Rangers haven't had a 4th line center like him since Blair Betts. And Moore is a better player than Betts was. Brian Boyle hadn't been exclusively a 4th line center his whole Rangers tenure, so i didn't include him (spent time on the wing and as 3rd line center).

Signing Moore for 3 years is a good bridge until Lindberg matures into that roll.

Worst case scenario is we trade him in the last year of the deal if Lindberg is ready.

Of course, all this depending on the annual cap hit.

Still HAVE TO get Stralman signed. Can't stress it enough.
 
I'm gonna be pissed if we lose all our depth that we had last year.. If we let them go and he replaces them with good players fine, but no more ****ing Taylor Pyatts, etc etc etc
 
ElectrocutedCat said:
What is wrong with signing Dominic Moore for 3 years? You know exactly what you are getting from him. Rangers haven't had a 4th line center like him since Blair Betts. And Moore is a better player than Betts was. Brian Boyle hadn't been exclusively a 4th line center his whole Rangers tenure, so i didn't include him (spent time on the wing and as 3rd line center).

Signing Moore for 3 years is a good bridge until Lindberg matures into that roll.

Worst case scenario is we trade him in the last year of the deal if Lindberg is ready.

Of course, all this depending on the annual cap hit.

Still HAVE TO get Stralman signed. Can't stress it enough.
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I'm pretty sure we have more important needs than Stralman at the moment.

#3 center.
a whole bottom 6 pretty much other than Hagelin.
 
Lundsanity30 said:
I'm pretty sure we have more important needs than Stralman at the moment.
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We have more important needs than signing our best defenseman after McDonagh and Girardi?

What is more important?

I rewatched playoff games today instead of the draft, and Stralman was so superior to Staal that it isn't funny. In game 7 of the Penguins series, there was a sequence in the 3rd period that was a microcosm of the pair throughout the season. Malkin rushing the puck Stralman rubs him out no problem takes the puck away and skates it up through the neutral zone, dumps it deep, Pens come back, Stralman cancels them out again, puck swings to Staal's side, Marc is nowhere to be found, puck SLOWLY glides out in front and somehow Staal whifs at the puck, can't find it in his feet spinning around in circles in one spot clueless and all of a sudden hell breaks lose in front of the net until Lundqvist saves the day.

Staal is not what he once was. He just isn't. Stralman is the better player at this point in their careers. He fits the system to a T.

Marc's eye is an issue. His reaction time is slower than it was prior to the head injuries and eye injury. He has big trouble against teams with speed, he rarely wins foot races against them and causes the Rangers to get hemmed in their own end. Just re watch some games, its clear as day.

I don't see a bigger priority right now, for Sather, than to get a HUGE key part of this team's success re-signed.
 
ElectrocutedCat said:
We have more important needs than signing our best defenseman after McDonagh and Girardi?

What is more important?

I rewatched playoff games today instead of the draft, and Stralman was so superior to Staal that it isn't funny. In game 7 of the Penguins series, there was a sequence in the 3rd period that was a microcosm of the pair throughout the season. Malkin rushing the puck Stralman rubs him out no problem takes the puck away and skates it up through the neutral zone, dumps it deep, Pens come back, Stralman cancels them out again, puck swings to Staal's side, Marc is nowhere to be found, puck SLOWLY glides out in front and somehow Staal whifs at the puck, can't find it in his feet spinning around in circles in one spot clueless and all of a sudden hell breaks lose in front of the net until Lundqvist saves the day.

Staal is not what he once was. He just isn't. Stralman is the better player at this point in their careers. He fits the system to a T.

Marc's eye is an issue. His reaction time is slower than it was prior to the head injuries and eye injury. He has big trouble against teams with speed, he rarely wins foot races against them and causes the Rangers to get hemmed in their own end. Just re watch some games, its clear as day.

I don't see a bigger priority right now, for Sather, than to get a HUGE key part of this team's success re-signed.
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Whatever man you're just from Sweden and want to hate on Marc Staal. :sarcasm:
 
Lundsanity30 said:
I'm pretty sure we have more important needs than Stralman at the moment.

#3 center.
a whole bottom 6 pretty much other than Hagelin.
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Hagelin is a top 6 player on this team.

The Rangers success is built from the net out. Stralman is more important than the 10th, 11th, and 13th forwards.

Stralman logs approx. 20 minutes of ice time.
 
What do you guys think of Willie Mitchell? He's 37 but logged an average of 20 minutes a game. LD.

Trade Staal for say ROR (If ROR signs for $6 million overall cap numbers would cancel each other out in the below scenario). Sign Mitchell 1 year $2 million base $1 million bonus. Resign Stralman at $4 million. Mitchell could be ac1 year stop gap to see if Skjei is ready for the 2015-16 season.

Kreider - ROR - Nash
Hagelin - Stepan - MSL
Pouloit? - Brassard - Zucc
Carter? - D. Moore - Carcillo?
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McD - Girardi
Mitchell - Stralman
J. Moore - Klein
Diaz?
 
ElectrocutedCat said:
Hagelin is a top 6 player on this team.

The Rangers success is built from the net out. Stralman is more important than the 10th, 11th, and 13th forwards.

Stralman logs approx. 20 minutes of ice time.
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Too bad that doesn't win championships today. You gotta score goals.
 
UAGoalieGuy said:
What do you guys think of Willie Mitchell? He's 37 but logged an average of 20 minutes a game. LD.

Trade Staal for say ROR (If ROR signs for $6 million overall cap numbers would cancel each other out in the below scenario). Sign Mitchell 1 year $2 million base $1 million bonus. Resign Stralman at $4 million. Mitchell could be ac1 year stop gap to see if Skjei is ready for the 2015-16 season.

Kreider - ROR - Nash
Hagelin - Stepan - MSL
Pouloit? - Brassard - Zucc
Carter? - D. Moore - Carcillo?
XXXX

McD - Girardi
Mitchell - Stralman
J. Moore - Klein
Diaz?
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Mitchell's cap hit last season was over 3M... and he just won a cup.. 2M? :laugh:
 
Ail said:
Whatever man you're just from Sweden and want to hate on Marc Staal. :sarcasm:
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Lol don't even kid after the arguments that i read here last night.

But, in all seriousness, Stralman is the glue to this defense, IMO. He is the bridge from McDonagh-Girardi to the rest of the defense corp.

Klein is a good player, but no chance would he be able to handle the minutes and competition Stralman faces. He is a few steps slower, as well.

Just warning, letting Stralman go and committing that money and years to Staal is a mistake. I don't want Staal to become a whipping boy, but it will happen. People will be running him out of town. He is not the player he used to be. Stralman makes him better, not the other way around.
 
Lundsanity30 said:
Mitchell's cap hit last season was over 3M... and he just won a cup.. 2M? :laugh:
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Deal was signed 2 years ago. He's 37 now. And I said $2 million base with $1 million in bonus. $3 million total.

If you think a 37 year old Mitchell should get over $3.5 million (what he was getting paid his last couple of contracts) the the Rangers have no chance at resigning Stralman as he could command over $4.5 million.
 
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