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Speculation: 2014 Offseason - Roster Building / Trade Speculation Thread V

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17futurecap said:
Fayne has great possession numbers, would be a solid replacement for Stralman. Although, would be interesting to see him off the Devils as they are a great possession team. If you get Fayne 2.9 million feels like a lot to pay Klein to play on the 3rd pair.
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Wait, I'm confused...

I thought Klein was replacing Stralman?

:D
 
BTW, Moore is right about where I had him if that article by Brooks is true.. Moore > Dorsett.. that's basically Dorsett's cap hit.. sign it.
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
They are free agents.

Why is this anyone's fault? Why do you frame it as if these players owe the Rangers something?? (Or vice versa)
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Agreed. They did play well and their market value is up. I wouldn't hesitate exploring the market if I was hot commodity and my boss is paying me what I was worth 3 years ago.
 
Lundsanity30 said:
Yeah, but they are bottom 6 guys in your scenario. that's doable no question.
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Yeah but no upgrades anywhere. How much will a third line LW cost? Can Miller stay on the big roster as the 3C? If Stralman doesn't resign can Klein hang as the 2nd pairing RD? How much will a Vet 3rd pairing RD cost? Can't have a rookie w J. Moore.

Lots of tough questions.
 
-31- said:
I'd argue they should have been gotten paid all along.
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Which is the real underlying issue here. How many players on this squad were some kind of reclamation project gone awry that the Rangers either turned around or let them find success on a unlikely run to the Finals?

Brassard: Enigmatic and streaky player, on the trade block with Columbus for years.
Boyle: Former first rounder traded for a 3rd who became an elite 4th line defensive center.
Stralman: Nearly found himself out of the league before the Rangers gave him a shot.
Pouliot: Nomad of the highest order, streaky but effective 5v5 player.
Moore: Bounce back player after a year off from hockey.
Zucc: Undrafted midget from Europe who may have only got a chance because of a good Olympics tournament.

All of these guys are trying to cash in now and find some kind of security and regularity in their careers, something they probably deserved all along.
 
Ail said:
Which is the real underlying issue here. How many players on this squad were some kind of reclamation project gone awry that the Rangers either turned around or let them find success on a unlikely run to the Finals?

Brassard: Enigmatic and streaky player, on the trade block with Columbus for years.
Boyle: Former first rounder traded for a 3rd who became an elite 4th line defensive center.
Stralman: Nearly found himself out of the league before the Rangers gave him a shot.
Pouliot: Nomad of the highest order, streaky but effective 5v5 player.
Moore: Bounce back player after a year off from hockey.
Zucc: Undrafted midget from Europe who may have only got a chance because of a good Olympics tournament.

All of these guys are trying to cash in now and find some kind of security and regularity in their careers, something they probably deserved all along.
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I understand it and that's their right, it just sucks.. and at the same time, the Rangers gave alot of these guys another shot, when others might not have.
 
3 years for Dominic Moore? No thank you.

Mark Fayne is not going to come cheap.

Oilers to meet with Mark Fayne camp thursday. 27yrs 6-3 rh shut down guy. 6 -7 teams interested. Likely wants 4-5 yr deal.
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https://twitter.com/TSNRyanRishaug/status/481869789066190848

I know Moore is a great guy and everything. He always overplays his hand in contract talks. Brian Burke wanted to re-sign Moore with the Leafs. He wanted crazy money and Burke traded him to the Sabres for a pick. Moore always signs those 1 year contracts. He is another guy looking to cash in off the Rangers success. That's his right but the Rangers should't give him 3 years.

Brooks loves Moore and he feels the Rangers are making a big mistake if they don't re-sign him.

Larry felt the same in 2010 about Jody Shelley

Se, this is what I can’t understand about the way Glen Sather does business.

It’s beyond me, just beyond me, why the Rangers GM would risk losing such an important piece as Jody Shelley in order to perhaps pursue someone else he can’t know will fit as well the universally respected enforcer who came to the Rangers in February and immediately established himself as a badly needed force off the ice as well as on it.

Three days before the free-agent market opens and Sather, we’re told by several sources, has yet to make an offer to the enforcer who was so well regarded by his teammates in San Jose that they were prepared to award him a Stanley Cup ring had the Sharks won, and was equally respected by teammates in New York
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The Rangers have made too many mistakes on big contracts — and we all know what they are — not to know that the ice is not always shinier and slicker on another rink. In two months of wearing the Blueshirt, Shelley established himself as important fabric of team. Yet, Sather seems willing to risk losing him.

I don’t get it.
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http://nypost.com/2010/06/28/rangers-will-pay-if-shelley-leaves/

Philly gave Shelley 3 years/$3.3M and they immediately regretted that contract.
 
RangerBoy said:
3 years for Dominic Moore? No thank you.

Mark Fayne is not going to come cheap.



https://twitter.com/TSNRyanRishaug/status/481869789066190848

I know Moore is a great guy and everything. He always overplays his hand in contract talks. Brian Burke wanted to re-sign Moore with the Leafs. He wanted crazy money and Burke traded him to the Sabres for a pick. Moore always signs those 1 year contracts. He is another guy looking to cash in off the Rangers success. That's his right but the Rangers should't give him 3 years.

Brooks loves Moore and he feels the Rangers are making a big mistake if they don't re-sign him.

Larry felt the same in 2010 about Jody Shelley





http://nypost.com/2010/06/28/rangers-will-pay-if-shelley-leaves/

Philly gave Shelley 3 years/$3.3M and they immediately regretted that contract.
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To be fair there is a bit of a difference between Moore and Shelley.
 
What it comes down to is, its the nature of FA.. you want someone? you're going to have to pay them.. or someone else will..

Unless you think the whole bottom 6 can be filled with kids.. I'm pretty sure we should pay at least 2 of them.
 
This is the part that bothers me as a fan about the UFA process.

Because I was never contacted for an NHL contract, I suppose it's easy for me to say. Garbage organizations and the like. But when you have success with a team, stability would be worth a lot of me over payment. Especially when we're in the millions.

Still, NYR should be offering stability to Moore. A long term contract at a reasonable rate like 1 million isn't an issue.
 
Fitzy said:
This is the part that bothers me as a fan about the UFA process.

Because I was never contacted for an NHL contract, I suppose it's easy for me to say. Garbage organizations and the like. But when you have success with a team, stability would be worth a lot of me over payment. Especially when we're in the millions.

Still, NYR should be offering stability to Moore. A long term contract at a reasonable rate like 1 million isn't an issue.
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Feels different for every case, I'm sure Pouliot is so pumped that he has finally worked his way out of 1 year deal territory. I saw Sather's quote about him having chemistry and he should sacrifice some cash to stay here, and if I'm Pouliot I'm not really sure I can buy that. I'm not going to get on guys if they want to cash in.
 
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