Speculation: 2014 Offseason - Roster Building / Trade Speculation Thread IV

[Tawnos]

He retires and we're still stuck with his cap hit.

Sorry, I meant we buy him out.

 

[Thirty One]

LOLOLOLOL Kings

 

[Gardner McKay]

take a look at our pp please. we were brutal.

boyle production would have lead our team.

we need a guy like him. even at 38, hes still money on the pp compared to what we have now.

Im not necessarily for signing DB however, he can't make our power play worse than it was with Richards.

 

[Ail]

What the actual ****?

Seven years? Yikes.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

LOLOLOLOL Kings

That's a Richards-esque deal.

 

[Championship*]

Sorry, I meant we buy him out.

Even still, that's wasted space.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

7 years for an injury prone Gaborik? LOL.

The cap hit IS good, but the term is awful.

 

[Levitate]

I'm guessing LA sees that $5 mill cap hit won't be all that much near the end of the contract with the cap going up, but that's still a long time and while Gaborik played well for them in the playoffs that's a pretty small sample size to hang your hat on. Gonna be interesting to see how that works out

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

What the actual ****?

Seven years? Yikes.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[silverfish]

The cap hit is great, but wow, 7 years for Gabby? That's gonna hurt them eventually. Though, by the 2018-2019 season, who knows what the cap ceiling will be? Might be easy enough to bury him if necessary by then.

Great for Gabby though. Happy for him.

 

[OverTheCap]

7 years for Gabby is way too long considering his age and extensive injury history. That's 2 years longer than the term at which the Rangers signed him when he was 27. Crazyness.

 

[Tawnos]

Even still, that's wasted space.

It's not much wasted space. Probably on the order of $3m the first year, $1.5m the second if it's a $6m contract.

 

[Championship*]

He won't finish that contract.

 

[haveandare]

The decision that this all hangs on, in my opinion, is Staal or Stralman.

If the idea is to keep Staal, then let Stralman walk and use that cap on a center or LW upgrade over Poo.

If they want to keep Stralman instead, resign him right now, ride Staal while negotiating a trade for him, preferably at the halfway mark rather than the deadline.

Everything moves out from there.

 

[silverfish]

Does that AAV set the bar for a guy like Vanek? If we can sign Vanek for $5m per, sign me the **** up

This board would be a complete **** show if we had Vanek. Oh my God, if (some of) you guys think Nash is a floater I'd sign Vanek if I was Glen Sather just to read these boards every day

 

[DracoMalfoy62]

7 years for Gabby is way too long considering his age and extensive injury history. That's 2 years longer than the term at which the Rangers signed him when he was 27. Crazyness.

With the core they have in LA now, they have at least 5 more playoff years out of those 7. If he can do 3/4 of what he did this year in those playoffs the deal is worth it. BUT his playoff track record has been inconsistent, which in my mind makes it risky. Im not one of those "only the playoffs matter" guys but you have to imagine that his performance this year played a big role and will set some sort of bar.

 

[GAGLine]

stasny and boyle. if slats is kicking the tires good on him. both those guys make us better right way.

this is the new nyr's. we are in win now mode. we are in one player away mode. we have a window and slats may well be going for it. we laughed at our team earlier last season that we were in tear it down mode but a trip to the scf's changed that. we are a dangerous team. we need to get better.

hanks got 3-4 more top end years. msl is 38. we were in the scf last season. we are close. the core is there. add a few players and we make a serious bid to run the table.

if we add a stasny in the middle and a dan boyle to run the pp, we are a way better offensive team. both those guys address needs and both cost only money. slats doesnt want to move kids to get better. hell swap roster players to get better though.

if it means not reupping on stralman-bad move, moving brass, letting boyle walk and keeping staal. good. keep the core together.

im preparing myself for some serious moves from slats soon. he smells cup. he may well be going for it next season.

neil smith and keenan did it.

cant blame him one bit.

Neil Smith and Keenan had a team with several hall of famers on it. Neil Smith and Keenan won a cup.

Adding Stastny and Dan Boyle doesn't make us better since we will have to lose valuable players to fit them under the cap.

 

[DracoMalfoy62]

What would the market be for Staal right now/anytime before season opens?

 

[jerseyjinx94]

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 1m
That Gaborik deal will be frontloaded as much as it can under new CBA and he can retire early without penalty. So it makes sense.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

Does that AAV set the bar for a guy like Vanek? If we can sign Vanek for $5m per, sign me the **** up

This board would be a complete **** show if we had Vanek. Oh my God, if (some of) you guys think Nash is a floater I'd sign Vanek if I was Glen Sather just to read these boards every day

I'd add in a gif of nick cage losing his **** but I always screw them up on here and get a weird thumbnail pic of a piece of paper.

 

[GAGLine]

I have no qualm about 2 years, honestly. Either he's good enough for the second year or the deal, he retires, or we find a taker for him and retain some salary. It's one year and not that big of a deal. I have a bigger issue with the price tag. Markov got $5.75m in a re-up. What's Boyle getting?

Dan Boyle on a 2 year deal would be a 35+ contract. The 2nd year would still count against the cap if he retires.

Someone else mentioned a 1 year deal with bonuses, but do we really want those bonuses rolling over into next year like Boston is dealing with right now because of Iginla?

 

[Tawnos]

Dan Boyle on a 2 year deal would be a 35+ contract. The 2nd year would still count against the cap if he retires.

Someone else mentioned a 1 year deal with bonuses, but do we really want those bonuses rolling over into next year like Boston is dealing with right now because of Iginla?

If you kept reading, you would have seen my correction. I mean buyout, not retirement. Buyout amount would be manageable.

 

[GAGLine]

Sorry, I meant we buy him out.

Buyout doesn't affect 35+ contracts.

 

[haveandare]

Dan Boyle on a 2 year deal would be a 35+ contract. The 2nd year would still count against the cap if he retires.

Someone else mentioned a 1 year deal with bonuses, but do we really want those bonuses rolling over into next year like Boston is dealing with right now because of Iginla?

For me, I don't even care about that.

The question is who goes to make room for him. Moore is faster, which is key in this system, and way younger, might still improve a bit. Klein is signed to a nice deal for a long time.

Boyle is going to be gone for sure in two years, if his legs even last that long. And I think a lot of people are remembering his play from the past when they talk about him in here because he's not nearly the player he's being pumped up as IMO. It's not like he's slumping in the middle of his career. He's aging and breaking down. I just don't see how or why that's worth losing one of our current guys.

 

[Tawnos]

Buyout doesn't affect 35+ contracts.

Yeah, it does.

http://www.capgeek.com/faq/what-s-a-35-plus-contract

The league confirmed to CapGeek.com in March 2013 that the over-35 rule "doesn't apply either in the case of regular buyouts or in the case of compliance buyouts," meaning teams can use buyouts to reduce or eliminate the cap hit. Prior to the league's clarification