Injury Report: 2014-2015 Injury Thread

[tigervixxxen]

Nobody said anything about Berra in practice. Come on, we don't have reporters that watch practice c

 

[JLo217]

Nobody said anything about Berra in practice. Come on, we don't have reporters that watch practice c

We don't even have real reporters.

 

[The Mars Volchenkov]

Cliche to the rescue.

But seriously, the PK did look like it missed him last night.

Stuart, Bordeleau, and Mitchell getting closer too.

 

[Pokecheque]

Cliche to the rescue.

But seriously, the PK did look like it missed him last night.

Stuart, Bordeleau, and Mitchell getting closer too.

A shame Winchester isn't.

 

[Foppa Frossa]

Everberg will probably be scratched in favor of Bordy

 

[Hans Landaskog]

Everberg will probably be scratched in favor of Bordy

Doubtful, I think Everberg fills in for McGinn this year. Bordy should be replacing McCleod, but that won't happen.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Doubtful, I think Everberg fills in for McGinn this year. Bordy should be replacing McCleod, but that won't happen.

Who sits then? You just said it won't be McLeod, so...

I agree Everberg's roster spot is probably safe because of McGinn but I can see him scratched when we actually have enough healthy forwards.

 

[Hans Landaskog]

Who sits then? You just said it won't be McLeod, so...

I agree Everberg's roster spot is probably safe because of McGinn but I can see him scratched when we actually have enough healthy forwards.

I'm really not sure who it would be. Briere has been better, but he has been benched in favor of Cliche, then you look at if/when Mitchell or Winchester get back and it gets complicated. Here is what I would prefer

Everberg - Mitchell - Briere
McLeod - Winchester - Bordeleau

If McGinn comes back, out of that group it should be McLeod getting scratched, but it would probably be Everberg, unfortunately. Even if one of Mitchell or Winchester were hurt it'd be Everberg, since he doesn't play center.

 

[dahrougem2]

You're missing Talbot in that lineup, which would most likely indicate Everberg sitting since Roy has unrelenting loyalty to McLeod for an unknown reason. When healthy, the bottom 6 for me would be

Everberg-Mitchell-Briere
Bordeleau-Winchester-Talbot

Bordeleau just adds that fear factor to players, we saw it last season especially vs the Blues where he can drive a team nuts with a single hit. McLeod, as much as I respect the job that he does, simply isn't useful out there anymore and, at times, can be a complete liability

 

[Hans Landaskog]

Ah crap, of course there is Talbot....

And yes, I agree with your lineup. But Roy would not.

 

[tigervixxxen]

At this point I would strongly bet against seeing McGinn again. I doubt we see Winchester but that one is more up in the air. So for my purposes I'm assuming neither of them will be available.

Talbot-Mitchell-Briere
McLeod-Cliche-Bordy

is the bottom 6 with Everberg slotting in there somewhere on occasion.

 

[Hans Landaskog]

At this point I would strongly bet against seeing McGinn again. I doubt we see Winchester but that one is more up in the air. So for my purposes I'm assuming neither of them will be available.

Talbot-Mitchell-Briere
McLeod-Cliche-Bordy

is the bottom 6 with Everberg slotting in there somewhere on occasion.

This makes me sad.

 

[TheStranger]

Don't worry, we won't be healthy ever again, I'm sure Everberg will have plenty of chances due to injury

 

[TheStranger]

You're missing Talbot in that lineup, which would most likely indicate Everberg sitting since Roy has unrelenting loyalty to McLeod for an unknown reason. When healthy, the bottom 6 for me would be

Everberg-Mitchell-Briere
Bordeleau-Winchester-Talbot

Bordeleau just adds that fear factor to players, we saw it last season especially vs the Blues where he can drive a team nuts with a single hit. McLeod, as much as I respect the job that he does, simply isn't useful out there anymore and, at times, can be a complete liability

Who do you have on the PK though? I think that's the only real reason McLeod is still around.

Only Winchester and Talbot and maybe Mitchell should be anywhere near a PK out of that group.

 

[AvsRobin]

Nick Groke ‏@nickgroke 9m9 minutes ago
Semyon Varlamov (groin) in full pads on the ice at #Avs skate today. But he's off to the side by himself. Looks a little slight still.

 

[forsbergavs32]

Nick Groke ‏@nickgroke 9m9 minutes ago
Semyon Varlamov (groin) in full pads on the ice at #Avs skate today. But he's off to the side by himself. Looks a little slight still.

Looking at the schedule and that tweet, barring any setbacks of course, I'm betting we see Varly Tuesday against St. Louis or next Saturday against Chicago.

 

[tigervixxxen]

I'd be very surprised if we see Varly before the end of the calendar year. They were cautious last time, this time they will be even more so.

 

[henchman21]

I'd be very surprised if we see Varly before the end of the calendar year. They were cautious last time, this time they will be even more so.

I wouldn't say they were real cautious last time... that is if you mean the collective organizational they. Really it was Roy who wasn't. They (meaning the whole organization) better be this time around.

 

[tigervixxxen]

I wouldn't say they were real cautious last time... that is if you mean the collective organizational they. Really it was Roy who wasn't. They (meaning the whole organization) better be this time around.

Well, cautious in the time it took for him to come back, usage is another story.

 

[StayAtHomeAv]

I wouldn't say they were real cautious last time... that is if you mean the collective organizational they. Really it was Roy who wasn't. They (meaning the whole organization) better be this time around.

They waited for him to be "110%". What's Roy suppose to do when he is being told Varly is 110%? You don't sit your best players when they are 110%.

 

[henchman21]

They waited for him to be "110%". What's Roy suppose to do when he is being told Varly is 110%? You don't sit your best players when they are 110%.

Umm... don't play a goalie coming off a groin injury, that has had numerous groin issues in the past, on back to back nights. It was a mistake. I haven't been one to rip on Roy very often, but that was clearly a dumb move. He should have been eased in, and Roy didn't do that.

 

[The Kingslayer]

I'd be very surprised if we see Varly before the end of the calendar year. They were cautious last time, this time they will be even more so.

I would shut Varly down for the season no need risking him carrying this injury into next season. Draft top 3, trim the fat (Holden and Guenin) add some D help in the offseason but thats me

 

[RockLobster]

Umm... don't play a goalie coming off a groin injury, that has had numerous groin issues in the past, on back to back nights. It was a mistake. I haven't been one to rip on Roy very often, but that was clearly a dumb move. He should have been eased in, and Roy didn't do that.

If you're told a player is "100% ready to go" and that player has shown it in practices then there should be no "easing in". It's unfortunate that he re-aggravated the injury but if you're a coach and your Team Doctor says "Player X is fully cleared to return" then I don't see the issue.

 

[Foppa2118]

If you're told a player is "100% ready to go" and that player has shown it in practices then there should be no "easing in". It's unfortunate that he re-aggravated the injury but if you're a coach and your Team Doctor says "Player X is fully cleared to return" then I don't see the issue.

As we've seen with Varly, and Mitchell, and countless times over the years, declaring someone "fully healed" or "100%" is not an exact science. This should be taken into consideration when deciding on playing a goalie coming off a groin injury on back to back nights.

 

[henchman21]

If you're told a player is "100% ready to go" and that player has shown it in practices then there should be no "easing in". It's unfortunate that he re-aggravated the injury but if you're a coach and your Team Doctor says "Player X is fully cleared to return" then I don't see the issue.

Roy has been told players are ready to go before and kept them out of back to backs or delayed their return a game. He should have done the same with Varly. A player that has had chronic issues should be treated a bit more carefully to not re-aggravate an issue, especially when that player is your franchise goalie that is signed for 4 more years. A game or two at the beginning isn't nearly as important as the long-term.

If a wide receiver has hamstring issues, you wait a bit longer to put them in the line up or don't have then run all go routes to protect it. Wait a game or two and see how they feel at each point to make sure everything is okay before going crazy.

Former players should know as much as anybody that being 110% in practice is way different than in a game. You can be fully healthy in one aspect, but not be ready to bear a load. Varly should have played one game and then been given a day or two to see how he feels. Instead he was thrown right back out there. It was the wrong decision by Roy.