I believe the same rules apply during the offseason, so Kuemper would need to go through waivers. The only example I can think of is Prosser, he didn't make the cut from the blue's training camp and we claimed him.
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I believe the same rules apply during the offseason, so Kuemper would need to go through waivers. The only example I can think of is Prosser, he didn't make the cut from the blue's training camp and we claimed him.
The waiver list goes inactive one day after a teams season ends and starts back up 12 days before their seasons first game.If the wild were to miss the playoffs they could send Kuemper to Iowa the next day without him having to clear waivers.As long as he was in Iowa 12 days prior to next years first game there is no problem with him starting next year in Iowa.Backstrom would have to waive his nmc to go to Iowa.There used to be re entry waivers but they got rid of them in the last cba.
I am about 99% sure that this is incorrect. Players that are on an NHL roster at the trade deadline, cannot be sent down after the trade deadline. The only exceptions are injury/conditioning stints or guys that were recalled after the trade deadline. This is why teams will send some kids down at the deadline and then recall them the next day, so they can still be eligible for the AHL playoffs.
I am almost positive that Kuemper cannot start the season next year in Iowa without first clearing waivers.
Neither of those articles do anything to back up your claim that he can be sent down. I just went through the CBA and am now certain that Kuemper cannot start next year in Iowa without clearing waivers.
Long story short- Any player on an NHL roster cannot be sent down between the trade deadline and 12 days before the start of the following season.
I think they do side with him here's something from another site I found
http://fans.mapleleafs.nhl.com/community/index.php?/topic/69196-faq-nhl-rules-and-regulations/
There are also other rules not included in those links from the new CBA that would still play a role. For example I believe the Wade Redden rule would still cause us to take a caphit.
Then again for some reason Kirill Kabanov was sent through waivers last July so who knows...
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feb 3 hockey writers article in case you missed it "will the wild make the playoffs" http://thehockeywriters.com/how-well-does-minnesota-have-to-play-to-make-the-playoffs/
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I have no idea if this is accurate, but I thought it was kind of cool.
I have no idea if this is accurate, but I thought it was kind of cool.
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It helps that we are playing so many playoff teams in the West. Those are a lot of 4 point games. We just need to win those games, and shoot for overtime in the rest, and we will be in good shape.
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I don't think it's so much a pressing need to trade him so much as his salary doesn't fit his role and he might be redundant.
Now, a lot of this was assuming that Haula could step into the 4th line center role, but Haula just hasn't been better than Brodziak this year. Maybe the thought is that Carter can do Brodziak's job for the next couple years for $1-1.5m per year vs the $2.8m Brodziak was making.
I don't see Brodz making $2.8m from any team next year, but I also don't see him signing an extension with the Wild for half of what he's currently making. I think he would test free agency first and see if a team would give him $2m or more, but if he's a UFA close to camp maybe he'd sign a 1-year deal.
If I'm comparing the two players over the last three seasons...
Brodziak
G60 0.4
P60 1.0
S60 6.0
Sh% 7.5
CF% 45.7
Carter
G60 0.5
P60 1.3
S60 6.4
Sh% 8.5
CF% 51.5
Carter scores more goals, gets more points, takes more shots, scores on more of those shots, and drives possession better than Brodziak.
99% sure that he would have to go through waivers if he gets sent down in camp. That's how the Wild won the Prosser lottery
DANOZ28
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with cooke out im not as h3ll bent on a deadline trade as before. i would have made brodz , cooke , fonzy , falk , blum available for later picks. now with our playoff surge i doubt anything will happen. (sell side). years prior when i felt we had no hope of a good playoff run trading ufa players for picks would have been a good idea.
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Well I really just meant trading him this year, didn't mention anything about re-signing him. You're right, though, going forward, Carter seems like the better option especially salary-wise. We'll need a 3C in the off-season unless we roll Haula- Carter.
... and now I'm still confused. We have people claiming both ways with waivers. The source seems to say we could send kuemper down.. but a few say otherwise. Did we claim Prosser just before the season started so at that point he was back to waivers?
And just googled that.. we claimed him 10/2 and the regular season started 10/9. So within 12 days obviously.
... and now I'm still confused. We have people claiming both ways with waivers. The source seems to say we could send kuemper down.. but a few say otherwise. Did we claim Prosser just before the season started so at that point he was back to waivers?
And just googled that.. we claimed him 10/2 and the regular season started 10/9. So within 12 days obviously.
What kind of goalie split to expect this month? You can definitely make push to playoff position now if keep playing like recently.
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The only back to back we have in Feb is Mon Tues (9th, 10th). Otherwise we literally play every other day.. 12,14,16,18,20,22,24,26,28!!
Lots of hockey coming up, but it will be interesting what they do with the tending. With how important Mon Tues's back to backs are I wouldn't be surprised if Dubs gets both.
Lots of hockey coming up, but it will be interesting what they do with the tending. With how important Mon Tues's back to backs are I wouldn't be surprised if Dubs gets both.
Jarick
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The change for the current CBA is that re-entry waivers were eliminated. So your waiver-eligible player only goes through waivers when he is sent down, not when he is called up.
I'm 99% sure that the 12-day rule is mostly to cover training camp and doesn't mean you can send a player down 13 days before the season. My assumption is that the AHL teams camps aren't open at that point.
I'm also pretty sure that even if the Wild waived Kuemper and he cleared and played in Iowa this season, if they wanted to send him down next year in camp, he would go through waivers again.
I can't recall any players that were sent to the minors in the off-season.
Basically, if the Wild want Kuemper in the minors, they have to send him through waivers.
All players with NHL contracts that are waiver eligible have to clear waivers to go down to the AHL to start a season. Yes, Kuemper would have to go on waivers to play in Iowa next year, even if we happened to waive him this year and he cleared.
Russo was on Souhan's podcast today. Always a good listen.
Just some of Russo's own thoughts include Granlund becoming a legit number one center with his lack of size and ability to stay healthy. Russo mentioned the Wild should maybe trade him to get someone bigger in return.
He has a feeling Spurgeon might be traded before his current contract is up (Spurgeon the only top 4 Dman who isn't locked in long term), assuming Dumba is good enough to take a top 4 spot.
He expects the Wild to go hard after Byfuglien in free agency next year to add some much needed toughness.
Just some of Russo's own thoughts include Granlund becoming a legit number one center with his lack of size and ability to stay healthy. Russo mentioned the Wild should maybe trade him to get someone bigger in return.
He has a feeling Spurgeon might be traded before his current contract is up (Spurgeon the only top 4 Dman who isn't locked in long term), assuming Dumba is good enough to take a top 4 spot.
He expects the Wild to go hard after Byfuglien in free agency next year to add some much needed toughness.
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