Olympics: 2014 — Canada Roster Discussion (Part XVII) (Released, Post 1)

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Barney Gumble

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LOL, Luongo didn't play in the 2005 World Championship final game. Brodeur was the goalie. So yeah, Luongo has never lost an international elimination game in all of them that he's play.

Now it's obvious you're trolling AND don't know what you're talking about.
But why use facts that would get in the way of their argument?:naughty:
 

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There are some of us who just don't have confidence in Luongo. Between the game against the Czechs in 2004 (World Cup in which he let in 2 WEAK goals), the Gold Medal game in 2010 (a glove hand that can't catch), plus all his losses for Vancouver in the playoffs, he scares the hell out of me.

Do we have anyone better? I guess not. Maybe he's the lesser of the evils. I would just prefer someone else.
 
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DyerMaker66*

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LOL, Luongo didn't play in the 2005 World Championship final game. Brodeur was the goalie.
He was on that team; that team lost, hence Luongo lost. Just like Schneider also lost the 2011 SCF.

So yeah, Luongo has never lost an international elimination game in all of them that he's play.
There's a reason he didn't start, and it's not because they would've won with him in the net.

Now it's obvious you're trolling AND don't know what you're talking about.

Yes, I'm the one who's trolling despite you ignoring Luongo's play (lack there of) in the most important games of his career including his terrible play in 2010 and 2011, and riding the pine in a few of those games. You Luongo fanboys need to give it up.
 

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There are some of us who just don't have confidence in Luongo. Between the game against the Czechs in 2004 (World Cup - in which he let in 2 WEAK goals) and the Gold Medal game in 2010, plus all his losses for Vancouver in the playoffs, he scares me.

Do we have anyone better? I guess not. Mayve he is the lesser of the evils. I would just prefer someone else.

Well said, KevyD. I really hope Price get a chance and he plays lights-out, though.
 

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I really hope Price get a chance and he plays lights-out, though.

Me too, buddy. Me too. Price could carry us for the next 10+ years in International play. Thank God we only need ONE goalie.
 
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Uhmkay

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Rick Nash now has 11 goals in 11 games since the announcement....


... anyone want to eat some crow and admit they were wrong? :)
 

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You clearly talking over your head... Habs D-Corps has been terrible these past few weeks. Everybody's watching the Habs play knows what I'm talking about. Price can't do everything by himself.

Watch habs alot, its not false that habs defense (too many passangers) is been poor past games, but its not particulary defense.

Offense: how do you want to win a single nhl game when ur offense produce 2 goal in 3 past games. When ur best offense talent is a fking D-man.

Goalie: man Price have been pulled out 2 of his past 3 start ups, hes been clearly awful actuall, allow about 1 goalevery 3 shots. Have you seen that goal yesterday vs washington, when the guy miss his shoot and Price can't stop a puck going 3 miles per hour from gettig betweeen his legs.

Coaching: Yesteray was one of the first game iv'e seen where we kept the same linep as the last one. It did not worked. Fact is we change lineup every night, Therrien bench our best players when we still have a chance of comeback and he seem unable to bring us to the next step. Iv'e read an interesting article compaing habs season this year and last year, where we start very hot and then fall down pretty deep, to Penguin when it was Therrien the coach and you can see its pretty similar phenomenom.
 

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I apologize if this has been asked and answered (I couldn't find it if it was), but how many players are allowed to dress for the games? All 14 forwards and 8 defencemen? Or just 13 and 7?
 

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2005 World Championships (but we'll just ignore that so it can fit your argument).

Sorry, but Canada played 3 elimination games at the tournament, they won against Slovakia 5-4, 4-3 against Russia in the semis, and then they lost to the Czechs 0-3 in the gold-medal game, but that was Brodeur who was in the net, not Luongo. So no, Luongo has never lost an eliminationa game for TC.
 

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What i am saying is we need to re evaluate our goalie situations, if both luongo and price are hurt, we need to change them

We cant take Price or luongo if they are not 100%

Example:

Harding at 100% >>>>> Price at 90%
Crawford at 100% >>>>> Luongo at 90%

Price at 100% >>>>> any other Canadian Goalie
Luongo at 100% >>>> any other Canadian goalie not named price...

How was Harding left off the team?

he is NUMBER 1 on the power ranking... OMG !!!!!

How is he left off this team???

http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?ID=10467
 

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He was on that team; that team lost, hence Luongo lost. Just like Schneider also lost the 2011 SCF.


:laugh:

The truth is still that Luongo has never lost any elimination game for Canada when he was in net.

This is just the same as if you were saying that Quick lost the gold-medal game against Canada. How many goals did he allow?
 

Uhmkay

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:laugh:

The truth is still that Luongo has never lost any elimination game for Canada when he was in net.

This is just the same as if you were saying that Quick lost the gold-medal game against Canada. How many goals did he allow?

Well, take a look at who you're quoting.

He's blaming Luongo losing games in the Stanley cup when his team doesn't score any goals.... now he's blaming Luongo for losses when he doesn't allow any goals to be scored on him. You just know this is leading to blaming Luongo for every loss ever in the history of sport. Hell, it's probably Luongo's fault that Price has sucked so much lately.... may as well blame Luongo for that too. :)
 

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It's funny to me.

Luongo was on the bench for an elimination game = he lost, he's a choker.

Price giving up four goals for what, his last 5-6 games = it's all his defense's fault.

What?
 

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I've stated it numerous times: He's the better goalie. Whether you choose to agree or simply ignore what I've typed is your own problem.


4 GAA in the 4 most important games of his career.


2005 World Championships (but we'll just ignore that so it can fit your argument).


The past has nothing to do with who should start next month, as has been demonstrated to you numerous times through my suggestion of starting Brodeur because of his "history".

He was one win away from the Stanley Cup because of the team he played on: Fleury has a Stanley Cup, does that mean he should start in Sochi?

I love that you used tournaments from 10 years ago to back-up your opinion that Luongo should start, though.


:shakehead :help:

Brodeur was one win away from being the first goalie ever to be in the triple gold club in 2005, and what does that really mean in the end?

Yes, when he puts up a 4 spot in 4 of the games needed to get him into that club.




Yes, it's ridiculous that a guy who not only crapped the bed 4 times in the SCF, but nearly cost Team Canada the gold medal with his terrible glove shouldn't start for Team Canada. While a guy who has actually won professional hockey championships, while being the MVP of the playoffs has done "nothing at the pro level". :sarcasm:



He may be one of the best goalies of his generation, but his generation ended in 2012.

And you have no basis of that, Price has never had a better season than Luongo, his accolades pale in comparison. I've provided concrete evidence where as you're just posting a claim with absolutely nothing to back it up.

I've debunked this numerous times, you chose to be oblivious to the facts.

Did Marc-Andre Fleury's team only score 8 goals in his 7 game series? Didn't think so, keep reaching bud.

Oh god you realize Luongo didn't even play in that game, also reading your posts trying to back this ridiculous notion up is utterly hilarious.

Considering Luongo won the Gold Medal in 2010 which was his worst season as the starter in Vancouver, and he's been a lot better this year in comparison to that year it does mean a lot. Hilarious that you deem Luongo's 2010/2011 accolades as irrelevant yet you're using an American Hockey League title in 07 as a reason for Price. The amount of times you've contradicted yourself throughout this thread can't be counted on one hand.

The guy with 3 Gold Medals, 1 Wold Cup of Hockey and a Stanley Cup Final appearance 'craps the bed' while the guy who's won 1 playoff round is being deemed as a savior for winning an AHL championship, in a year Luongo tied the record for most goalie wins ever in the history of the NHL.
 

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Rick Nash now has 11 goals in 11 games since the announcement....


... anyone want to eat some crow and admit they were wrong? :)

He's perfect :yo:

He was supposed to be the biggest joke by many.....but as you just said, 11 goals in 11 games? That's damn fantastic! And he still might play on a 4th line :dunce:

Rick Nash is also third in GWG (6), tied with Patrick Kane and Alexander Steen. The only two players in the league who have more GWGs are Ryan Getzlaf (7) and Corey Perry (9).
 

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It's funny to me.

Luongo was on the bench for an elimination game = he lost, he's a choker.

That's not what I said. I used the 2010 Olympics and 2011 SCF to demonstrate that he was a choker. I said he lost in 2005. Notice my previous two sentences aren't the same.

Price giving up four goals for what, his last 5-6 games = it's all his defense's fault.

What?

Hasn't that been the Luongo apologists' argument for his play in the 2011 SCF as well: The guy gave up 4+ goals in the 4 biggest games of his career, but it's all because Dan Hamhuis was injured.
 

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That's not what I said. I used the 2010 Olympics and 2011 SCF to demonstrate that he was a choker. I said he lost in 2005. Notice my previous two sentences aren't the same.



Hasn't that been the Luongo apologists' argument for his play in the 2011 SCF as well: The guy gave up 4+ goals in the 4 biggest games of his career, but it's all because Dan Hamhuis was injured.

Wait, what?
 

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And you have no basis of that, Price has never had a better season than Luongo, his accolades pale in comparison. I've provided concrete evidence where as you're just posting a claim with absolutely nothing to back it up.
Price has championships, Luongo doesn't, how do those accolades back up Luongo?

I've debunked this numerous times, you chose to be oblivious to the facts.

Did Marc-Andre Fleury's team only score 8 goals in his 7 game series? Didn't think so, keep reaching bud.
But Marc-Andre Fleur is not a top 5 goalie in the NHL and there his would need to score more goals
than Luongo's, yes?

Oh god you realize Luongo didn't even play in that game, also reading your posts trying to back this ridiculous notion up is utterly hilarious.
And reading your posts that diminish Price's accomplishments while simultaneously boosting Luongo's is nothing short of hilarious.

Considering Luongo won the Gold Medal in 2010 which was his worst season as the starter in Vancouver, and he's been a lot better this year in comparison to that year it does mean a lot.
2012-13 was Luongo;s worst season as a starter. In case you haven't realized this, that was last year.

Hilarious that you deem Luongo's 2010/2011 accolades as irrelevant yet you're using an American Hockey League title in 07 as a reason for Price. The amount of times you've contradicted yourself throughout this thread can't be counted on one hand.
Hilarious that you view Luongo's terrible play in 2010 and the 2011 SCF as irrelevant.

Excuse me: I've contradicted myself? Look what you did below: Boosted a terrible performance in the SCF as better than an MVP performance in the Calder Cup

The guy with 3 Gold Medals, 1 Wold Cup of Hockey and a Stanley Cup Final appearance 'craps the bed' while the guy who's won 1 playoff round is being deemed as a savior for winning an AHL championship, in a year Luongo tied the record for most goalie wins ever in the history of the NHL.
Luongo does not have the most wins ever in the history of the NHL: He's about 300 short. He does not have the most wins in a single season, either, but let's not get facts get in the way of how your precious Luongo is perceived though.
 

DyerMaker66*

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Wait, what?

I'm sorry, he played great in that last minute. I really loved how he controlled the easy wrister that would've killed the play and allowed the tired Team Canada to get a change, but instead gave the americans possession and allowed them to tie the game.

Wait, what?
 

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DyerMaker66, although I'm not sure, it seems to me that you're a habs fan. As a habs fan myself, please take my advice and stop this Price/Luongo "debate" asap! Thank you so much!

edit: Just so I'm on topic I will add that I am confident in Luongo as the starter and Price as #2, seems like a very solid pairing for Sochi.
 
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I hate the Habs. Their fans can be almost as bad as Leafs fans.
 

Big Guy

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I hate the Habs. Their fans can be almost as bad as Leafs fans.

Well I guess that explains why you're embarrassing us in this thread. That and a clear bias against Luongo who has proven himself time and time again. I think Luongo must be the first goalie in history to achieve a loss from the bench. Is it also a shutout since he allowed zero goals?
 
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