Tawnos
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As currently made up? Definitely. Who knows what is going to happen in the offseason.
Speculation: 2013 Offseason Thread Part V: Streit signs with PHI (4 years, $5.25M per)
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As currently made up? Definitely. Who knows what is going to happen in the offseason.
Tawnos
A guy with a bass
I'm still interested in Tyson Strachan as a RD option. He ended up on Florida's top pair by the end of last season. Should be adequate for 3rd pair, occasional 2nd pair, duty with us.
With every media outlet talking about Richards and Torts relationship being strained, and the Rangers cap situation (14M free w/ Richards signed as of now), and AV's past experience coaching Pyatt and Clowe, I get the feeling that neither Step nor McD will be rocking a new 5M cap hit.
If Hags/Step/McD are signed for within 10M, the Rangers have plenty of space and options. My guess is that some of the UFAs get priced out as it happens every year, but Rangers go the trade route to fill in the role positions.
Meaning trades of Powe/Pyatt/Asham (3.5M) for cheaper contracts.
One proposal I've got is this:
Asham
'14 5th
for
Ryan White
'13 6th
Rangers get another pick this year, and get younger, while MTL trades a tweener in need of a scenery change. MTL needs more vets, and replaces White's toughness w a player in Asham that is familiar with MTL.
Pyatt is a mystery as AV could want him back, but AV plays a game of matchups and I do not foresee Pyatt being a part of that game as he does not play effective minutes out side of a bottom six even strength role.
I'd move him for futures or to a team in need of size.
Powe too can be moved, but he kills penalties, and does it well. I think he ends up as the one staying and forming a 4th line that can give some solid minutes.
The Rangers have a lot of forwards making under 2M, and I definitely think there will be some tweaking there, as opposed to the strategy of buying out and replacing higher cost players with both money and assets.
If Hags/Step/McD are signed for within 10M, the Rangers have plenty of space and options. My guess is that some of the UFAs get priced out as it happens every year, but Rangers go the trade route to fill in the role positions.
Meaning trades of Powe/Pyatt/Asham (3.5M) for cheaper contracts.
One proposal I've got is this:
Asham
'14 5th
for
Ryan White
'13 6th
Rangers get another pick this year, and get younger, while MTL trades a tweener in need of a scenery change. MTL needs more vets, and replaces White's toughness w a player in Asham that is familiar with MTL.
Pyatt is a mystery as AV could want him back, but AV plays a game of matchups and I do not foresee Pyatt being a part of that game as he does not play effective minutes out side of a bottom six even strength role.
I'd move him for futures or to a team in need of size.
Powe too can be moved, but he kills penalties, and does it well. I think he ends up as the one staying and forming a 4th line that can give some solid minutes.
The Rangers have a lot of forwards making under 2M, and I definitely think there will be some tweaking there, as opposed to the strategy of buying out and replacing higher cost players with both money and assets.
I sure hope he is okay and ready to go. I think he will be the perfect 3rd liner especially if he plays with young kids (Miller/Lindberg).
Completely agree, our breakout and transition game would improve dramatically with speed if mdz can get us a nice scoring winger and a signing of nystrom for the bottom 6 would greatly help just hope we have a healthy staal. Speed under an offensive system like AV's will help
Torts hindered the breakout IMO. Having guys chip the puck out every time. I think that they can successfully break the puck out with this roster and with AV.
Like what im hearing of lindberg, just made the camp for sweden's olympic team. Still believe miller is more of a winger
Lindberg at center, and Miller on the wing getting in the forecheck and playing physical. I like it and can see it.
Agree but speed especially down the middle makes the breakout much easier instead of the same long stretch pass to richards who tips it to the side for someone to chase every time, we need to carry the puck i hope AV can help with that
Lindberg just had a stellar season and made the preliminary roster for Team Sweden. I don't think there is a chance he isn't ready. Maybe he plays a little in Hartford to start the year but I think he will make it. And with Miller we saw that he can play in this league last year. Maybe he gets stronger this summer and puts on some weight, he will be the top center at the Traverse City Tournaments I believe.
Tawnos
A guy with a bass
Eh. I don't know. It took Silfverberg a good portion of the shortened NHL season to really start putting it together at the NHL level, and that was with half a season in the AHL adjusting to the ice surface first (granted, at nearly a PPG down there). I don't think this kind of thing can be predicted with anything resembling surety. It just varies too much from one guy to the other.
Good points nice 3rd liners for next year that can hopefully provide some scoring, love watchimg that tournament, will like to see miller and st croix play
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Cally's Chicken Parm
What is everyone's thoughts on bringing Raymond over here with AV as a solid 3rd liner?
Has sensational speed which I'd gladly take more of on this team, and an underrated shot. He's good for at least 10 goals and 35 points in an 82 game season.
Has sensational speed which I'd gladly take more of on this team, and an underrated shot. He's good for at least 10 goals and 35 points in an 82 game season.
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Frolic and DeTorts
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I live in Binghamton so I had the luxury of watching Silf play for the first 30 games. He has more offense to his game than Lindberg does but Lindberg is great on faceoffs and is a solid pker which will make it easier to adjust in pro hockey I think.
Tawnos
A guy with a bass
Defensive hockey is harder to adjust to on a different ice surface than offensive hockey is, though.
concerns over his concussions are valid...but as a ranger during the regular season he was on pace for 20g, 34a, 54p over a full season. which points him right on pace with his career average excluding the awful 28 games to start the season...
damaged goods? maybe...but i think those 28 games with no camp were more a fluke than a sign that he is declining.
Thanks for asking, let's consider that in more detail:
Yakupov McKinnon Nash
proven except for McK, who is probably best F prospect, and with no/minimum pro experience, is likely better than several NHL current Cs on the moment, + has has upside
Kreider Brassard Stalberg
Also a winner of size + speed w/Brassard passing. Kreider not only unshackled from Torts, but with Frenchie at the helm, this will be a go-go offense. Growing pains, yes; mistakes, yes; time to gel for chemistry needed, yes; overall real improvement YES
Hagelin Miller Callahan
Improved and more experienced Hags + Miller + reliable Cally = another speed line, speed kills.
Fast Lindberg Asham (last year of deal)/Dorsett
Another Hags-esque addition, track record suggests better scorer, Lindberg FO wiz, Asham good soldier last yr, then Dorsett or other
Yeah, an adjustment from SEL to NHL, but still, that is a serious + legit expectation that pair gets here
Boyle = 13th or trade for LD
Yogan, Haley waiting in the wings
I expect good things from Yogan on lower 6 IF given chance.
Haley may be better with this better, faster team.
so the Fs are completely covered... I mean honestly, what is there not to like?
Ds
Marancin J. Schultz
Gernat Jones
Siemens Stralman/McIlrath
Ds..
RD obviously no problems on the right side.
Yes Jones is a rookie, but again there is a reasonable basis for such high expectations.
So the legit claim as to weakness is the LD. I will discuss that, but let me say that even if these were 3 disasters going there, this alternate team construct would still an improvement over what we have, both as to overall across the roster talent AND as to improved cap etc, which now, in this design, we have the ability to rent a short term import to solve our problem area.
LD
Marancin drafted 2nd round + Siemens, 1st round (like 8th overall) = potential 1Ds;
Gernat
there is a big problem as to lack of depth; if McIlrath can stick on the bottom pair as a minimal stay at home guy, maybe Stralman can spell minutes as needed wherever, including playing off on the left.
I started with Siemens on the bottom, because I wanted to underscore what a bonecrushing combo he and McIlrath would be!
But more realistically, we may hope he will do another Doug Hamilton. That is ultimately a 1D calibre blueliner.
Marancin I started off at the top w/J Schultz, fellow former Oiler. We can see how that goes. If needed, we can fit him at 2nd pair.
Gernat I put in at 2nd pair again, to highlight the lower pair option from time to time of Siemens-McIlrath. But as a regular match, he may well be better deployed at third pair.
So a more realistic grouping would be these pairs:
Siemens - Schultz
Marancin - Jones
Gernat - McIlrath/Stralman
we would obviously be relying on the minimal veteran status of Schultz and Stralman to demonstrate leadership. That is a problem, but not an insurmountable one, more of a growing pain, IMO.
And again, odds are likely SOMEBODY we can use on the left becomes available a buyout, or suddenly can be had in trade.
However, we need to admit we are better off with a better team 'on paper' if it has real, legit and honest upside, despite short term growing pains, than the patchwork status quo of an inferior team.
NYR Viper
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The more I think about it, the more I think Boyle will be traded. He was a Torts favorite a d he has considerable value among most NHL GM's with his size, defensive play, physicality, face off prowess and ability to play all over the lineup.
With AV coming in, I would think Lapierre will be on the Rangers radar.
I hope they trade for someone like McLeod. Someone who can drop the gloves and play.
It sounds like Clowe will be back. I'm totally fine with that but his contract can't be absurd.
With AV coming in, I would think Lapierre will be on the Rangers radar.
I hope they trade for someone like McLeod. Someone who can drop the gloves and play.
It sounds like Clowe will be back. I'm totally fine with that but his contract can't be absurd.
I totally disagree. I think Boyle was, again, one of the players who I think voiced displeasure with Torts. And I think Alain Vigneault would love Boyle. Would start him in the defensive zone 90% of the time.
Raspewtin
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he absolutely has the tools he just has to put it together at the North American level. He'd be an ideal 3rd line center.
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