bernmeister
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I have updated my last plan in light of the fact that the Oilers (esp. braintrust Howson) are high on MDZ (previously in package to Col.).
The scenario is not flawless, but in most areas is substantial improvement.
DEFINITE MOVES
Deal 1, McDonagh + Sam Noreau + conditional pick to AVs
for
1st overall (McKinnon) + Duncan Siemens
Col gets conditional first to guarantee satisfaction on Noreau
five full years after this current 2013 draft is the 2018 draft
5 years = 2 years to develop, get into NHL, 3 years to show
assuming he is not traded before, and assuming he is not seriously injured to = ‘damaged goods’, if AVs prefer, they may then return trade Noreau back to the Rangers for the NY 2018 first pick.
COL expensive, but get top end lefty D they need and decent prospect. Braintrust under Roy may prefer talented McKinnon w/first overall, but McD is young and the real deal and they need a franchise lefty D who they will not turn down given they also have enough RD.
NYR McKinnon = potential franchise C, and Siemens is solid asset on left, maybe coupled with McIlrath on occasion! Remember Malkin will not UFA, so this makes sense for NY since AVs are C heavy.
Trade 2: Marc Staal to Carolina for 5th overall, + is optional.
CAR good move to compete now, good biz ($) move
NYR 5th overall is key to trade for 2 overall
Trade 3: Stepan + MDZ + Moore + Girardi + Andersson to Oilers for 7th overall, Yakupov + J. Schultz + Marancin + Gernat
Oilers get 3 NHL ready Ds (net gain 2 established over Schultz returned); solid pivot adding to RNH. Andersson a 4th round pick further away but good value vs. Gernat (5th), closer to ready now. Marancin a former 2nd, but still have Kefbom (1st) + Musil (2nd) to add to Smid +, so they will 100% have complete D going into season. Playmaking C helps keep many Ws productive.
Price is high but they have enough firepower to swing it; big time defense upgrade.
Rangers upgrade at RD, have sniper LW for first line, and 7 overall to move up at draft.
Trade 4: 5th overall + 7th overall + St. Croix for 2nd overall (Jones)
FLA Tallon probably will let you bribe him if there is enough on the table. There is a drop off after the first three, but still, # 5 could be very special, and 7 special. St. Croix makes/competes within a year for big club. May need small NY add, expect it is enough as is.
NYR Seth Jones. We could also use more special players, but this is a fit like a glove.
Note: fall back position would be to offer Lightning 5th + 7th for Hedman.
Having the extra shot at an extra impact player [and denying same to instate rival] is another reason for Tallon to lean yes.
POSSIBLE FURTHER MOVES
Trade 5: If available for less due to recovery from concussions, Jake Gardiner from Leafs.
This is not likely, but should be considered if opportunity on Toronto side makes feasible.
You are stocked on RD, thin at LD.
Option 1: Alec Martinez might be available from Kings. Reasonably possible, LA would take futures + to respect cap. 2 in 3 chance to get done.
Option 2: If $ is right Scuderi for a short term (1-2 yr) deal; though righty, he has smarts to probably switch to off side. This would mostly be guided by where he wants to play, likely return to NY area, but could be Isles, Pens, etc. 1 in 4 chance to get done.
Option 3: If he passes tryout, which I doubt, and agrees to sign minimum 2 way deal for minimum term w/club option to renew up to 1 year, Kaberle, while limited, could be a fit.
Not likely Letang would be made available/cheap/sent to division rival but if they can’t do another hometown discount with him, and they are saving for Malkin, and nobody wants MAF, we might get lucky, but I doubt it. Also wants Doughty type $8mil per, so no overpayment is acceptable, this is 1 yr rental only. 1 in 100 chance to get done.
See who is available from cuts before trading.
Sign Stalberg to 2 year deal
Richards Let go
Clowe Pyatt Newbury Powe Zucarello Get what you can
LW C RW
Yakupov McKinnon Nash
Kreider Brassard Stalberg
Hagelin Miller Callahan
Fast Lindberg Asham (last year of deal)/Dorsett
Boyle
Yogan, Haley waiting in the wings
Ds
Marancin J. Schultz
Gernat Jones
Siemens Stralman/McIlrath
eventually Skjei
Yes, it is thin at LD and all rookies. But these are guys that are good enough on paper to have great shot to succeed, and the rest of the club is totally poised to be kick ass.
Paveltenko/Pashnin/Gilroy/Bickel give one final shot, see if they can earn one LD slot, esp. if this is a different system.
Gs
Hank L
Cam Talbot
While Biron can be reconsidered for less, we need to consider Talbot resting Hank vs. weaker competition.
Remember, with these moves, Rangers are younger, have reduced payroll, have greater cap flexibility to use going forward. While we should expect some growing pains at first, this is a group likely to get very good very quickly.
The scenario is not flawless, but in most areas is substantial improvement.
DEFINITE MOVES
Deal 1, McDonagh + Sam Noreau + conditional pick to AVs
for
1st overall (McKinnon) + Duncan Siemens
Col gets conditional first to guarantee satisfaction on Noreau
five full years after this current 2013 draft is the 2018 draft
5 years = 2 years to develop, get into NHL, 3 years to show
assuming he is not traded before, and assuming he is not seriously injured to = ‘damaged goods’, if AVs prefer, they may then return trade Noreau back to the Rangers for the NY 2018 first pick.
COL expensive, but get top end lefty D they need and decent prospect. Braintrust under Roy may prefer talented McKinnon w/first overall, but McD is young and the real deal and they need a franchise lefty D who they will not turn down given they also have enough RD.
NYR McKinnon = potential franchise C, and Siemens is solid asset on left, maybe coupled with McIlrath on occasion! Remember Malkin will not UFA, so this makes sense for NY since AVs are C heavy.
Trade 2: Marc Staal to Carolina for 5th overall, + is optional.
CAR good move to compete now, good biz ($) move
NYR 5th overall is key to trade for 2 overall
Trade 3: Stepan + MDZ + Moore + Girardi + Andersson to Oilers for 7th overall, Yakupov + J. Schultz + Marancin + Gernat
Oilers get 3 NHL ready Ds (net gain 2 established over Schultz returned); solid pivot adding to RNH. Andersson a 4th round pick further away but good value vs. Gernat (5th), closer to ready now. Marancin a former 2nd, but still have Kefbom (1st) + Musil (2nd) to add to Smid +, so they will 100% have complete D going into season. Playmaking C helps keep many Ws productive.
Price is high but they have enough firepower to swing it; big time defense upgrade.
Rangers upgrade at RD, have sniper LW for first line, and 7 overall to move up at draft.
Trade 4: 5th overall + 7th overall + St. Croix for 2nd overall (Jones)
FLA Tallon probably will let you bribe him if there is enough on the table. There is a drop off after the first three, but still, # 5 could be very special, and 7 special. St. Croix makes/competes within a year for big club. May need small NY add, expect it is enough as is.
NYR Seth Jones. We could also use more special players, but this is a fit like a glove.
Note: fall back position would be to offer Lightning 5th + 7th for Hedman.
Having the extra shot at an extra impact player [and denying same to instate rival] is another reason for Tallon to lean yes.
POSSIBLE FURTHER MOVES
Trade 5: If available for less due to recovery from concussions, Jake Gardiner from Leafs.
This is not likely, but should be considered if opportunity on Toronto side makes feasible.
You are stocked on RD, thin at LD.
Option 1: Alec Martinez might be available from Kings. Reasonably possible, LA would take futures + to respect cap. 2 in 3 chance to get done.
Option 2: If $ is right Scuderi for a short term (1-2 yr) deal; though righty, he has smarts to probably switch to off side. This would mostly be guided by where he wants to play, likely return to NY area, but could be Isles, Pens, etc. 1 in 4 chance to get done.
Option 3: If he passes tryout, which I doubt, and agrees to sign minimum 2 way deal for minimum term w/club option to renew up to 1 year, Kaberle, while limited, could be a fit.
Not likely Letang would be made available/cheap/sent to division rival but if they can’t do another hometown discount with him, and they are saving for Malkin, and nobody wants MAF, we might get lucky, but I doubt it. Also wants Doughty type $8mil per, so no overpayment is acceptable, this is 1 yr rental only. 1 in 100 chance to get done.
See who is available from cuts before trading.
Sign Stalberg to 2 year deal
Richards Let go
Clowe Pyatt Newbury Powe Zucarello Get what you can
LW C RW
Yakupov McKinnon Nash
Kreider Brassard Stalberg
Hagelin Miller Callahan
Fast Lindberg Asham (last year of deal)/Dorsett
Boyle
Yogan, Haley waiting in the wings
Ds
Marancin J. Schultz
Gernat Jones
Siemens Stralman/McIlrath
eventually Skjei
Yes, it is thin at LD and all rookies. But these are guys that are good enough on paper to have great shot to succeed, and the rest of the club is totally poised to be kick ass.
Paveltenko/Pashnin/Gilroy/Bickel give one final shot, see if they can earn one LD slot, esp. if this is a different system.
Gs
Hank L
Cam Talbot
While Biron can be reconsidered for less, we need to consider Talbot resting Hank vs. weaker competition.
Remember, with these moves, Rangers are younger, have reduced payroll, have greater cap flexibility to use going forward. While we should expect some growing pains at first, this is a group likely to get very good very quickly.