Speculation: 2013 Off-Season Speculation/Be a GM Thread II

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Stephen Weiss

Tyler Bozak

Mike Ribeiro

Derek Roy

Valterri Flippula

All of them will be overpriced.There will be enough money available for them to get ridiculous contract with the cap dropping. Teams will have compliance buyouts to free up space. The Rangers shouldn't be one of them. Its amazing people still suggest the Rangers get back into the free agent mix.

Yeah, because we should spend the rest of Henrik's career hoping our stable produces top 6 talent to compete with the Pens. .Or are you saying we should explore the trade route? Because we're going to be down (are down) a play making #1 center, and could still use help on the wing..
 
I would love Nystrom, too. I think the trades are exactly what we should do and I like them a lot. I just really don't understand why you'd omit Zuccarello.

If just one of Kassian or Kreider flops, we have the same problem of 3/4th liners playing top 6 minutes.

Also, you have to realize that if you're going to play that kind of lineup, you're going to have injuries. Nash, Callahan, Clowe are all good for at least 5-10 missed games a year and if Kassian and Kreider play that same style, they could very well be the same way. Things could get really ugly really quickly. The reason Nash recently had that season where he played all 82 games was because he stopped playing his game and stopped going into the dirty areas.

I just don't see the PP working itself out like that. Still no PPQB and no point shooter. With Richards and Zuccarello gone, we have absolutely nobody who can take a slap shot. I seriously see no threat from the points. We'd have our usual PP goals with some dirty ones from Callahan, some nice one timers from Stepan at the sideboards into an open net and Nash will get his usual 6-7 from the sideboards. Brassard's still the only player who really becomes very dangerous on the man advantage. I don't know, I just don't see that unit going any higher than 20-25th next year at least.

If Kreider or Kassian or anyone flop then move Dorsett or Nystrom up to the 3rd line and move Hagelin up. We have all seen he is an effective player given more minutes.

The Rangers have young players who can fill in for a few games on the 4th line at the very least. Haley, Miller, Thomas, Mashinter, Hrivik, Yogan, Bourque. Time to give them cup of coffee.

John Moore has a very effective slap-shot and, if the movement is there, you don't need a 100mph shot, just traffic and good puck movement.

I am of the mindset that MZA is a NHLer. If he isn't going to get significant minutes (12-15 minutes at the very least) every night, then they should move him for his sake and get a return for him. Benching him for long stretches does nothing.
 
If Kreider or Kassian or anyone flop then move Dorsett or Nystrom up to the 3rd line and move Hagelin up. We have all seen he is an effective player given more minutes.

The Rangers have young players who can fill in for a few games on the 4th line at the very least. Haley, Miller, Thomas, Mashinter, Hrivik, Yogan, Bourque. Time to give them cup of coffee.

John Moore has a very effective slap-shot and, if the movement is there, you don't need a 100mph shot, just traffic and good puck movement.

I am of the mindset that MZA is a NHLer. If he isn't going to get significant minutes (12-15 minutes at the very least) every night, then they should move him for his sake and get a return for him. Benching him for long stretches does nothing.

Call up Fast.
 
if the Rangers don't do anything to make the offense more potent, why would Hank stay? whether its a trade or signing, offense is NEEDED. just a new coach system won't make us SC contenders
 
Zucc was one of the Rangers bet performers in the end of the series, as well as the playoffs. (both playmaking and point gathering)

Why are people so eager to get rid of him when he could very well be on the verge of a breakout season. It doesn't make any kind of reasonable sense
 
Ian White
Alexander Sulzer
Ben Lovejoy
Ryan O'Byrne
Tyson Strachan

Brett Bellemore

For the sake of completeness

Add these to righty UFA D who averaged over 15 minutes per night last season:

Marek Zidlicky
Radek Martinek
Joe Corvo
Michal Rozsival
Adrian Aucoin

Here's some lefty UFA D that played as RD last season, and averaged over 15 minutes per night:

Kent Huskins
Andrew Ference
Adam Pardy
Davis Drewiske
Andre Benoit
Mike Lundin
Mike Kostka
MA Bergeron
Grant Clitsome
 
Zucc was one of the Rangers bet performers in the end of the series, as well as the playoffs. (both playmaking and point gathering)

Why are people so eager to get rid of him when he could very well be on the verge of a breakout season. It doesn't make any kind of reasonable sense

I am not "eager" to get rid of him. I just see him for a top-6 tweener. If MZA starts the year in the top-6 this team has problems. If he is a bottom-6 player, this team is most likely.
 
When are you going to get it through your thick skill that ability by itself is meaningless?

I've never said that, so thanks for taking the back of an idiot. I see and appreciate effort but just having the puck means nothing. For some players (those with instincts and skill) having the puck is important because they do good things with it. For some like BB having the puck doesn't actually lead to anything and is therefore a gratuitious stat for those who champion his game.

As for Burmistrov, he has the skill but to date has been wasting it on most nights from what I've seen and read.
 
Zucc was one of the Rangers bet performers in the end of the series, as well as the playoffs. (both playmaking and point gathering)

Why are people so eager to get rid of him when he could very well be on the verge of a breakout season. It doesn't make any kind of reasonable sense

Same, I really think he's going to truly break out next season which is why I'm loath to move him.
 
I agree with this generally.

Although, if we don't resign Clowe, I think we need to look at a middle 6 winger.

And either way, we need to look into a bottom-4 right D.

Right now our D for next year is

McD Girardi
Staal Stralman
MDZ Moore

Why do we need a bottom 4 right D? Which one of these six do you expect to not be in the lineup?
 
Right now our D for next year is

McD Girardi
Staal Stralman
MDZ Moore

Why do we need a bottom 4 right D? Which one of these six do you expect to not be in the lineup?

Girardi-Stralman-Moore. One of those guys isn't a RD. And injuries are GOING to happen.
 
Right now our D for next year is

McD Girardi
Staal Stralman
MDZ Moore

Why do we need a bottom 4 right D? Which one of these six do you expect to not be in the lineup?

Many of us expect either Staal or MDZ to get moved this summer.

I think we can all expect Eminger to be resigned again this summer as a #7. He's done a really admirable job I think here. Frankly a perfect #7.
 
Right now our D for next year is

McD Girardi
Staal Stralman
MDZ Moore

Why do we need a bottom 4 right D? Which one of these six do you expect to not be in the lineup?

Either MDZ or Staal

Many of us expect either Staal or MDZ to get moved this summer.

I think we can all expect Eminger to be resigned again this summer as a #7. He's done a really admirable job I think here. Frankly a perfect #7.

Eminger should be brought back 100%

They need another solid depth d-man though. Not Gilroy or Hamrlik.
 
Many of us expect either Staal or MDZ to get moved this summer.

I think we can all expect Eminger to be resigned again this summer as a #7. He's done a really admirable job I think here. Frankly a perfect #7.

Moving Staal would be a monumental error on the part of Sather. When healthy he is this teams #1.

Move DZ.

Also a huge fan of bringing Emmy back.
 
Moving Staal would be a monumental error on the part of Sather. When healthy he is this teams #1.

Move DZ.

Also a huge fan of bringing Emmy back.

I wish we could change Del Zotto's name to Staal and ship him off to Carolina for the 5th+, but I don't think it works that way.

I also don't want to move Staal, but I also think we'd get a much better package for him this summer than next summer. The Canes won't pick as high and we have a chance there for a stupendous player.
 
Staal is going no where but Carolina. If they offer something amazing, he's leaving. If they don't, neither the rangers or marc have a reason for him to move.
 
IF Staal will sign an extension, keep him. If not, he is the one.

I think the move should be made this summer at the draft, to gain a 1st round pick. Staal has two years left on his contract, he's not eligible to sign an extension yet as far as I know.

Del Z can bring back a first and a winger for the Rangers. Do that. Sign a cheap RHD to fill out the top 6 on a stop-gap contract for McIlrath.

Staal/McD - G
McD/Staal - Stralman
Moore - UFA
Eminger

That's a VERY solid D corps going into next season IMHO. If it looks like Staal is going to walk when he hits UFA status, send him somewhere as a rental. He'll have a very high value as a rental at the 2015 trading deadline. What team wouldn't want to add a #1 D for their playoff run?
 
I think the move should be made this summer at the draft, to gain a 1st round pick. Staal has two years left on his contract, he's not eligible to sign an extension yet as far as I know.

Del Z can bring back a first and a winger for the Rangers. Do that. Sign a cheap RHD to fill out the top 6 on a stop-gap contract for McIlrath.

Staal/McD - G
McD/Staal - Stralman
Moore - UFA
Eminger

That's a VERY solid D corps going into next season IMHO. If it looks like Staal is going to walk when he hits UFA status, send him somewhere as a rental. He'll have a very high value as a rental at the 2015 trading deadline. What team wouldn't want to add a #1 D for their playoff run?

Discussions can be had with him and his agent.

I'm not opposed to moving MDZ, but they have to be sure Staal is staying.
 
Discussions can be had with him and his agent.

I'm not opposed to moving MDZ, but they have to be sure Staal is staying.

What I'm saying though, is that even if Staal decides he's not staying with the Rangers post-2015, I think it's still wiser to move DZ now, and deal with Staal later.

Will Staal bring you a better return today than Del Zotto? Absolutely. I'd say that the return Del Zotto brings + Staal on the Rangers in 2013-2014 is a way better scenario though.

Like I said, even if he walks at 2015, two more years of Staal on the ice as a Ranger is huge. And, if it becomes clear he's going to walk, send him somewhere as a rental at the deadline in 2015, and get your value there.
 
What I'm saying though, is that even if Staal decides he's not staying with the Rangers post-2015, I think it's still wiser to move DZ now, and deal with Staal later.

Will Staal bring you a better return today than Del Zotto? Absolutely. I'd say that the return Del Zotto brings + Staal on the Rangers in 2013-2014 is a way better scenario though.

Like I said, even if he walks at 2015, two more years of Staal on the ice as a Ranger is huge. And, if it becomes clear he's going to walk, send him somewhere as a rental at the deadline in 2015, and get your value there.

for some reason I thought he was a UFA after next season. Ugh

:facepalm:
 
I've never said that, so thanks for taking the back of an idiot. I see and appreciate effort but just having the puck means nothing. For some players (those with instincts and skill) having the puck is important because they do good things with it. For some like BB having the puck doesn't actually lead to anything and is therefore a gratuitious stat for those who champion his game.

As for Burmistrov, he has the skill but to date has been wasting it on most nights from what I've seen and read.
Even if players did nothing with possession of the puck like they do in your extremely polarized version of reality, it's still time that the opposition is not scoring.
 
I would personally sign Ryder or Horton, and then sign Weiss to a cheap 2 year deal.

Improve the offense a bit, we can't bank on Malkin making it to free agency in 2014 (good chance the Pens sign him before then), and even if he does it's no sure thing he even comes here.
 
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