LaffyTaffyNYR
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hmmm, thought he was older than that. I agree about your point about getting a center.. we would be soft down the middle with steps, brass, and burmistrov, but talented....
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Adam Larsson for Alex Burmistrov makes too much sense for both sides.
Loktionov-Burmistrov-Kovalchuk
Burmistrov's puck possession game is a perfect fit for Kovalchuk.
On the other hand the Jets get a defense pairing of
Enstrom-Larsson
A defense pairing a team can build around for many years.
Makes too much sense, it won't happen.
Loktionov-Burmistrov-Kovalchuk
Burmistrov's puck possession game is a perfect fit for Kovalchuk.
On the other hand the Jets get a defense pairing of
Enstrom-Larsson
A defense pairing a team can build around for many years.
Makes too much sense, it won't happen.
NYR Viper
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Burmistrov isn't soft per se. He will hit and fight for loose picks. Strong on his skates as well.
I am okay with the centers on this team being skilled distributors. Leave the rough stuff for the wings like Nash, Kreider, etc.
It is easier to allow the wingers to go in and make hits then to expect a center to be a physically dominating force as they have to be the guy down low helping the defense.
Good, skilled centers mean scoring chances and they would all be young enough to build around long term. All can, and have played wing as well.
LaffyTaffyNYR
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Not bad.
I like the McBain and Murray deals. so I won't touch your D pairings.
McDonagh-Girardi
Staal-McBain
Moore-Stralman
Murray-Eminger
On offense
Kreider -Stepan-Nash
Clowe -Brassard-XXX
Hagelin-Lindberg-Callahan
Nystrom-Boyle-Dorsett
Asham, Haley
And you still have DZ as an asset to upgrade other positions.
I really would like to upgrade that 2RW and move Callahan to 3RW, makes that 3rd line more potent.
NYR Viper
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For sure but his attitude has been questioned by the Winnepeg coach.
When he was drafted it was said he would be a solid 2way top 6 center. I think he was rushed to the NHL but he has the skills necessary to reach that potential.
Like,I said, he has a high hockey IQ and the physical tools skating and strength-wise to turn into a very good 2 way center. He loves to control the puck. That is the best way to play defense, don't let the other team have the puck.
NYR Viper
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Yeah, I thought about that, but I don't think they'd put a rookie ahead of the captain from the get go.
And a 3rd line of Hagelin - Lindberg - Fast is little too inexperienced for my taste.
I would make some slight changes to the forward corps heading into next season. (Realistically)
Amnesty Richards.
Trade LW Chris Kreider and a 2014 2nd Round Pick in exchange for C Alexander Burmistrov.
Sign David Clarkson to a 5 year deal worth 21mil.
Sign Dainus Zubrus to a 2 yr deal worth 7 mil.
Hagelin-Stepan-Nash (55% Offensive Zone Starts)
Zuccarello-Brassard-Zubrus (70% Offensive Zone Starts)
Clarkson-Burmistrov-Callahan (45% Offensive Zone Starts)
Pyatt-Boyle-Dorsett (15% Offensive Zone Starts)
Boyle line out for a lot of defensive zone draws. Burmistrov line also plays a secondary shutdown role and should dominate other teams since Clarkson, Burmi and Callahan have proven to be excellent puck possession players. Nash gets a lot of neutral zone/offensive zone starts and Brassard line is Sedin-esque heavily sheltered to be put in position to put up points. Zubrus is a nice finisher for two creative playmakers in Brassard and Zuccarello.
Amnesty Richards.
Trade LW Chris Kreider and a 2014 2nd Round Pick in exchange for C Alexander Burmistrov.
Sign David Clarkson to a 5 year deal worth 21mil.
Sign Dainus Zubrus to a 2 yr deal worth 7 mil.
Hagelin-Stepan-Nash (55% Offensive Zone Starts)
Zuccarello-Brassard-Zubrus (70% Offensive Zone Starts)
Clarkson-Burmistrov-Callahan (45% Offensive Zone Starts)
Pyatt-Boyle-Dorsett (15% Offensive Zone Starts)
Boyle line out for a lot of defensive zone draws. Burmistrov line also plays a secondary shutdown role and should dominate other teams since Clarkson, Burmi and Callahan have proven to be excellent puck possession players. Nash gets a lot of neutral zone/offensive zone starts and Brassard line is Sedin-esque heavily sheltered to be put in position to put up points. Zubrus is a nice finisher for two creative playmakers in Brassard and Zuccarello.
Rangers would be foolish not to if an opportunity arose to be offered that. Not only has Burmistrov proven more, he plays a much more valuable position, is younger and is far better defensively.
LaffyTaffyNYR
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so if we trade Kreider.. does Hagelin play all 4 lines on the LW? We already only have 2 (him and Kreider) at the moment.
Manny Malhotra seemed to do well after he was traded to the Stars after being rushed into the NHL but it wasnt his fault.. i wonder what could have been if Sather didnt trade him along with Heisten for Rucinsky and Lyashenko
and i find it funny and sad that Barret Heisten's only NHL games were with NYR... and retired at the age of 28.. alot of fans were stoked when NYR signed Ulmer Heisten and Dusablon. http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=45048 Layne Ulmer 1 nhl game... http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=31019 Dusablon had 3 NHL games. and retired at the age of 24..http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=29492
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Absolutely no way TBay is giving up the #3 overall AND adding a top prospect to it to get just MDZ
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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Only one out of those moves that I'd be OK with is Zubrus...I actually like Zubrus. Not at $3.5M, though.
There is nothing to suggest Chris Kreider is worth more than Alexander Burmistrov, a proven, younger, better defensive NHLer with better hands, hockey IQ and strong possession player. Right now, Chris Kreider isn't even a NHL regular. Burmistrov is at the very least, a 2-way 3rd line center.
i would do that deal but Yzerman isnt that dumb although they did make that bad trade with the Senators at the deadline.. the Bolts need guys who can play defense... they already have guys who suck at defense.. i would love that kid Radko Gudas. size grit and some scoring ability... Rangers dont have size or toughness on the blueline at all.. Rangers dont have that intimidating dman and before you say McIlrath, it is not fair to put all that pressure on a rookie. any Mark Stuart Brooks Orpik Adam McQuaid type for UFA this year with some toughness.
Only one out of those moves that I'd be OK with is Zubrus...I actually like Zubrus. Not at $3.5M, though.
What's not to like with my suggested moves? Curious for some feedback.
both Lindberg and Fast played in a pro league in sweden with former NHL players and prospects so im sure they are not too inexperienced. they might have to have a little tweak here and their in their games and get used to the smaller rink but they seem to be smart players... the all swede line... i do like the sound of that... but didnt the Oilers have a kid line back when Sather was coaching?? Graves Gelinas Murphy
LaffyTaffyNYR
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yeah, eventually that would be a good line, but not starting next season. At least I don't think, unless they impress at camp.
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Clarkson isn't worth that much money. He's a 3rd liner.
Kreider and 2nd for Burmistrov is not a good move. The Rangers probably wouldn't need to trade Kreider to get Burmistrov, anyway. Something round DZ for Burmy+ makes a lot more sense.
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