2013 New Jersey Devils (Team/Player Discussion)-Offseason FA and trade talk Part XVI

[Bleedred]

Remember before last year when some people actually thought Scott frickin Parse was gonna be in the opening night lineup? Hell, I even had a dream right after the lockout ended that he made the team.

At least the lineup going into this year doesn't look that bad. Bad enough where we have to wonder if some bum will start on the team. It's also not so weak that we'll have both Barch and Janssen make the team like they did last time.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Remember before last year when some people actually thought Scott frickin Parse was gonna be in the opening night lineup? Hell, I even had a dream right after the lockout ended that he made the team.

At least the lineup going into this year doesn't look that bad. Bad enough where we have to wonder if some bum will start on the team. It's also not so weak that we'll have both Barch and Janssen make the team like they did last time.

nope

 

[NJDevs26]

Just watched highlights of the 2011-2012 team.

It really made me remember how much I loved that team. That was honestly my favorite Devils team, I loved everything about that team and every player.

I just wish the two building blocks hadn't left us so shabbily. We were building this team around 9 and 17 and that year looked like it was going to be an unqualified success. The main thing that doesn't spoil that run for me is the heroic fourth line is still here. Not to mention Marty, and Elias. And thankfully the biggest goals were scored by guys that 'are' still here (Zajac, Henrique).

 

[Bleedred]

nope

There were a couple who thought that he might. I remember distinctly, though a heavy majority of people knew he wouldn't.

 

[apice3*]

I honestly forgot we ever gave Parse a contract.

 

[B A T M A N]

8 yrs 4.287 avg

1- 3
2- 3.25
3- 4
4- 4.50
5- 4.50
6- 5
7- 5
8- 5

probably a pipe dream.

Henrique wouldn't want that. If he becomes a better player like we know he's going to, he'll be worth a lot more than 4.2M in just a few years. Why sign an 8 year deal when he could be making more when he needs a new extension? It will likely be a 3-4 year deal. Players typically sign a 8 year contract when they've reached their top potential. Henrique isn't there yet.

 

[NJDevs26]

And if Henrique has another down year the way he did this year he's not seeing that money either, it's a calculated risk for both sides but either way it's good to know there isn't some stupid reason this hasn't been settled.

 

[Czech Trio]

$38M, 8 yrs, cap hit of 4.75 per. Risky, but he gets locked up longterm and AH gets paid.

1-3
2-3.5
3-4
4-4
5-5.5
6-5.5
7-6
8-6.5

I see it all as a bracket:
7-up...allstar caliber (bonafide 1st line forward/top pairing defensemen)
5-7...very good, proven forwards good 1st liners, very good 2nd liners, etc. (Zajac, Elias are here)
3-5...very good top 9 forwards/serviceable top 4 defensemen/very good 3rd pairing defensemen (Zubrus, Ryder, Clowe, Jagr, Greene, Volchenkov)
1-3...decent 3rd line players but better depth players and secondary forwards, utility guys, PK specialists, still 3rd pairing defensemen (Olesz, Fayne)
league min.-1...rookies, reclamation projects, low demand>high supply UFAs (more 1M to 3M), 7th defensemen, enforcers (Olesz, Larsson, Henrique)

but like some said above I'd consider this bracket once the player has shown the player they are not a Larsson or Henrique but a Zajac or Greene.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

$38M, 8 yrs, cap hit of 4.75 per

1-3
2-3.5
3-4
4-4
5-5.5
6-5.5
7-6
8-6.5

hes not going to get that much.

 

[CKPLAYA]

if Henrique signs for 8 years people are REALLY not going to like the cap hit, I'll just say that right now.

if Henrique gets an 8 year deal Lou should be shown the door immediately. Before the ink even dries on the paper. If any part of ownership approves a 8 year 30 mil+ deal for him they deserve to have the league pull the plug on any future funding. There's no way to even have an intelligent conversation on Henrique getting those terms.

 

[Devils Trap]

if Henrique gets an 8 year deal Lou should be shown the door immediately. Before the ink even dries on the paper. If any part of ownership approves a 8 year 30 mil+ deal for him they deserve to have the league pull the plug on any future funding. There's no way to even have an intelligent conversation on Henrique getting those terms.

No he shouldnt. We complain when FA's leave through FA soo now we sign a guy longterm and keep him, and we continue to complain

 

[CKPLAYA]

No he shouldnt. We complain when FA's leave through FA soo now we sign a guy longterm and keep him, and we continue to complain

If you think Adam Henrique is worth 8 years and 35 mil then I have to just walk away. There is no justification at all for a deal like that. None whatsoever. We complain when free agents leave as months and years go by and there are no negotiations taking place. it's not the fact they leave it's how they are handled before they leave.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I like how you just make your own numbers up when no one said that lol

I am also glad you know for a fact that no negotiations take place.

 

[CKPLAYA]

I like how you just make your own numbers up when no one said that lol

I am also glad you know for a fact that no negotiations take place.

Previous posts talked about 8/4.25-4.5. Lou doesn't negotiate during the season. He's made that clear. Also, he let's his top players play out their final year. The one exception is the brutal deal he signed Zajac to. LOL!

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Previous posts talked about 8/4.25-4.5. Lou doesn't negotiate during the season. He's made that clear. Also, he let's his top players play out their final year. The one exception is the brutal deal he signed Zajac to. LOL!

I am sure if Lou would've let Zajac walk you would've been the first one here running your mouth about how we always let everyone walk, etc.

if Henrique gets 8 years, hes going to get around $32 million. thats the price of buying out UFA years, like it or not.

 

[Andre Palot]

Remember before last year when some people actually thought Scott frickin Parse was gonna be in the opening night lineup? Hell, I even had a dream right after the lockout ended that he made the team.

At least the lineup going into this year doesn't look that bad. Bad enough where we have to wonder if some bum will start on the team. It's also not so weak that we'll have both Barch and Janssen make the team like they did last time.

I wanted him just because Parse with number 9 would have been hilarious.

I forgot he was still signed by us.

 

[NJDevs26]

I wanted him just because Parse with number 9 would have been hilarious.

I forgot he was still signed by us.

It wasn't until this post I remembered Parse at all...that's the only reason I remember him, cause of people making jokes about changing their jersey and having him wear 9.

 

[Devils Trap]

Hockey Buzz Eklund ‏@Eklund 2m
Sounds like grabovski getting close to a decision

 

[Ripshot 43]

Hockey Buzz Eklund ‏@Eklund 2m
Sounds like grabovski getting close to a decision

Why?

Just freakin why bother posting that?

Is this Devils news?

Is this news at all? (Considering the "source")

 

[Devils Trap]

Why not. Need something to talk about lol

 

[Ripshot 43]

Why not. Need something to talk about lol

To each his own but eventually I got to a point in my life where I decided not to help put money in some guys pockets that makes a joke out of his profession and in it, the sport of hockey.

 

[Devils Trap]

I mean reading his tweets dont really make him anything soo it doesnt really matter.

I dont like him either but he has some credibility. (Very little)

 

[Bleedred]

No e5 with that though?

 

[Devils Trap]

No e5 with that though?

When is really soon though ??? When he doesnt sign in the next few days Eklund will be like, I meant e0.5 guys ............

 

[Bleedred]

When is really soon though ??? When he doesnt sign in the next few days Eklund will be like, I meant e0.5 guys ............

Every time I wanna give this guy a chance, I keep thinking back to that awful Marty for Semin trade he was talking about back in 2010.