Speculation: 2013 Leafs Trades, Proposals, and Free Agent Talk XXI

[darrylsittler27]

Exactly.

....degressed?

I call his development in Boston Degressionary. I dont see what I saw before in his potential. Daigle anyone?

Seriously,you can't play well for Boston but you will go to a non playoff team and have impact? Not! Boston wants rid of him before it is too late.

 

[BigMac*]

No one would trade a top 3 pick in this draft for $5.5M dud called Seguin. He has degressed and his development has levelled off badly. Duds who are locked up at a whopping $5.5M have no real value it is all perceived or gambling. Even Nonnis talked about players making $5M but not playing upto it being liabilities you may have to buyout.

Imagine this,Florida makes that trade but Seguin has a horrible year and they miss the playoffs but Drouin becomes a 20 gaol rookie.You now have to think about buying out Seguin while Drouin goes on to be an impact player.No way Florida offers their 2nd for Seguin.They would be lucky to get Edm's 7th and I even doubt that.You think you can overlook Seguin's contract,you can't.He is way overpaid.

This risk right here is pretty much involved in every transaction. I don't understand how he's a dud. Because he had 1 bad playoff? He's a 21 year old kid for Christ sakes. Segs signed that contract after having a 67 pt season. He has also led the Bruins in scoring cobined through the last 2 years. You're judging a dud on one playoff experience. He went cold and most of that was because he was playing on the 3rd line.

 

[ErnieLeafs]

No one would trade a top 3 pick in this draft for $5.5M dud called Seguin. He has degressed and his development has levelled off badly. Duds who are locked up at a whopping $5.5M have no real value, it is all perceived or gambling. Even Nonnis talked about players making $5M+ but not playing upto it being liabilities you may have to buyout.

Imagine this,Florida makes that trade but Seguin has a horrible year and they miss the playoffs but Drouin becomes a 20 goal rookie.You now have to think about buying out Seguin while Drouin goes on to be an impact player.No way Florida offers their 2nd for Seguin.They would be lucky to get Edm's 7th and I even doubt that.You think you can overlook Seguin's contract,you can't.He is way overpaid.

Despite having a point, you're way underrating Seguin. He's far from a dud, and still has plenty of potential, and he's only 21. Plenty of time to figure it out.

 

[ULF_55]

Kadri is 22 years old (Oct 6, 1990) and has played 107 NHL games and scored 67 points.
Seguin is 21 years old (Jan 31, 1992) and has played 245 NHL games and scored 139 points.

At Seguin's age Kadri had played 50 games and had 19 points.

Not a lot of patience around here.

 

[The Magic Man]

Kadri is 22 years old (Oct 6, 1990) and has played 107 NHL games and scored 67 points.
Seguin is 21 years old (Jan 31, 1992) and has played 245 NHL games and scored 139 points.

At Seguin's age Kadri had played 50 games and had 19 points.

Not a lot of patience around here.

Never has been. I'd love to get a hold of Seguin, but not for too much. Gardiner and our 1st at best.

 

[Budsfan]

Boston wants to sign Lecavalier but wants to trade Seguin?

I would really try to sign Lecavalier and forget about Seguin.

 

[Pulfy14]

@DarrenDreger reporting strong chance that Toronto Maple Leafs could move up into Top 5. Have had some discussion with Carolina Hurricanes.

Reported by @TSN1050radio

 

[Budsfan]

@DarrenDreger reporting strong chance that Toronto Maple Leafs could move up into Top 5. Have had some discussion with Carolina Hurricanes.

Wow.... I wonder what that would cost us?

Michael Traikos @Michael_Traikos
“@TSN1050Radio: .@DarrenDreger reporting strong chance #Leafs could move into Top 5. Have had some discussion with Hurricanes.” WTF?

 

[Pulfy14]

Wow.... I wonder what that would cost us?

One would have to assume gardiner or reilly going the other way?

 

[ULF_55]

@DarrenDreger reporting strong chance that Toronto Maple Leafs could move up into Top 5. Have had some discussion with Carolina Hurricanes.

Reported by @TSN1050radio

TrollenDreger

Should we list the other 20+ teams who might move up into the Top 5 ... Detroit, Columbus, Chicago, ...

I'd love it, I'd say only Kessel is off limits to make it happen.

 

[Daisy Jane]

Getting tired of all the hype about trade activity around the draft. To this point it has been a huge fizzle. Only trade has been involving Calgary shipping old guys to the Avs. Dull. Hopefully it picks up.

I do think though that this is going to be an exciting and eventful (yet unpredictable) next week in the NHL. Can't wait to see what all goes down!

welcome to the cap world. (sigh).
trade deadline day is the same way. a lot is done way before.

 

[The Magic Man]

They have been shopping Gardiner around, no? I would think it wouldn't take much more then that to get to 5. Maybe Gardiner straight up.

 

[noBSleafsFAN]

Would love to get Monahan, but not at the cost of Rielly.

 

[araisarena]

One would have to assume gardiner or reilly going the other way?

probably Franson, Kulemin and 21.

 

[mcphllp]

I hope we keep gardiner and rielly.

 

[mcphllp]

Somerhing around franson and 21 could happen too. Although I think franson was one of our best dmen last year.

 

[ULF_55]

Would love to get Monahan, but not at the cost of Rielly.

Have to give to get.

Leafs don't have that much in the cupboard anyone would consider top notch.

Would you trade Monahan/Lindholm/Nichushkin/Nurse for Biggs, Percy, and the 21st.?

There seems to be some thought that Monahan is NHL ready.

 

[The Magic Man]

Do you guys think it's Monahan they target at 5? I wonder about his upside.

 

[topched]

Would love to get Monahan, but not at the cost of Rielly.

I'm not really worried about that.

1. Nonis has consistently said he wants to get younger, he's not trading young players

2. Carolina's motive is to get better now.

I can see them wanting roster players. We can do a combo of Franson, Kulemin etc plus the 21st. Could also be that Dion is in play

 

[Budsfan]

They have been shopping Gardiner around, no? I would think it wouldn't take much more then that to get to 5. Maybe Gardiner straight up.

To draft...Monahan, Lindholm or Nichushkin?

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=9420

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

Rumour Psycho Dreger hard at work, boys.

No trading Franson!

 

[dubplatepressure]

TrollenDreger

Should we list the other 20+ teams who might move up into the Top 5 ... Detroit, Columbus, Chicago, ...

I'd love it, I'd say only Kessel is off limits to make it happen.

It would be exciting for sure... That 5th will be a gem of a player. Doubt anything materializes though... At this point im leaning toward a minor deal for one of Clutterbuck or Clarkson's rights, and a 21st overall pick. We will then have our targets set for FA: Weiss/Lecavelier, Scuderi, and Boyd Gordon.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

@RenLavoieRDS: I've been told that the Penguins and Kristopher Letang are close to a deal. Small details to resolved and contract will be official. #RDS

 

[RayzorIsDull]

No one would trade a top 3 pick in this draft for $5.5M dud called Seguin. He has degressed and his development has levelled off badly. Duds who are locked up at a whopping $5.5M have no real value, it is all perceived or gambling. Even Nonnis talked about players making $5M+ but not playing upto it being liabilities you may have to buyout.

Imagine this,Florida makes that trade but Seguin has a horrible year and they miss the playoffs but Drouin becomes a 20 goal rookie.You now have to think about buying out Seguin while Drouin goes on to be an impact player.No way Florida offers their 2nd for Seguin.They would be lucky to get Edm's 7th and I even doubt that.You think you can overlook Seguin's contract,you can't.He is way overpaid.

You're off your rocker. So a 21 year old player can't improve? Buying out Seguin if he performed poorly next year?

 

[BigMac*]

@RenLavoieRDS: I've been told that the Penguins and Kristopher Letang are close to a deal. Small details to resolved and contract will be official. #RDS

Wow, most likely 26 mil between 3 players.