2007 Born for the 2023 Draft

[bobber]

I think the OHL does it best.

Saves teams from themselves and makes the 16 year old you picked more valuable.

I remember reading a team in the WHL that traded away their first round picks for about the next 3-4 years. That's nuts.

 

[DeletedAccountt]

I think the OHL does it best.

Saves teams from themselves and makes the 16 year old you picked more valuable.

Agreed, 100%

 

[Fastpace]

Roobrek has already stated that he won't report to Niagara. So I can't see them drafting him as there won't be any compansion pick for next year as you can not have two in a row compansion picks in a row but we are talking about Niagara.

Niagara has two first rounders, they can use the other pick to draft Roobroek and that's their second overall. Their compensation is the fifth pick and is the one they can not use three times

 

[Section5Petes]

Schaefer- Erie
Roobroek- Niagara
B. Martin- Soo
Beauchesne- King
Griffen- Niag
Hopkins-Osh
Reid- Missy
OBrien-Ham
Addy- Sud
Bruztewicz- Kitch
Romano- Kitch
Martin- OS
Cameron- Petes
Czata- Guelph
Velliaris- Flint
Taylor- Sag
Nesbitt- Sar
Moore- Lon
Moses- Barrie
Jackson- Windsor
Weir-NB
Ivancovic- Ott

Not that Cameron is a bad prospect but I feel like the Petes will be leaning more so towards a forward with how many graduations they will have in the top 6/7

 

[dirty12]

Niagara has two first rounders, they can use the other pick to draft Roobroek and that's their second overall. Their compensation is the fifth pick and is the one they can not use three times

I’m not sure what you’re stating. Teams cannot use the defect rule in consecutive years.
I would take BPA at #2 even if that pick needs to be traded, then the highly rated goalie if a legit top 7 will not report

 

[OMG67]

Do you think it makes it harder to compete with other team at the Mem though? Less assets to stack up... or does it make other assets more valuable?

You can kind of trade picks in a two part trade though like Oshawa did with Castle to get Tomaisno. Which also got them Danford because they declared Castle defected... not sure why more teams do not do that genius really.

QMJHL:
In 2022, 12 of 18 1st round picks were results of trades. 13 of 18 2nd round picks were results of trades. The swings in the QMJHL are just bigger. The end results are pretty much the same. There is a 4 year cycle there just like in the OHL. Teams bottom out and get high picks and while they bottom out they recoup assets to trade when they are ready to make a run. Same-Same.

I’m not sure what you’re stating. Teams cannot use the defect rule in consecutive years.
I would take BPA at #2 even if that pick needs to be traded, then the highly rated goalie if a legit top 7 will not report

Yup. That is a pretty sound strategy right there. If they take MArtin at #2 and trade him at the deadline, it won’t be for only three 2nds and three 3rds…. It will be more.

 

[dirty12]

QMJHL:
In 2022, 12 of 18 1st round picks were results of trades. 13 of 18 2nd round picks were results of trades. The swings in the QMJHL are just bigger. The end results are pretty much the same. There is a 4 year cycle there just like in the OHL. Teams bottom out and get high picks and while they bottom out they recoup assets to trade when they are ready to make a run. Same-Same.



Yup. That is a pretty sound strategy right there. If they take MArtin at #2 and trade him at the deadline, it won’t be for only three 2nds and three 3rds…. It will be more.

At least with the goalie Niagara would be getting the consensus #1 at that position and possible impact player.

 

[Hockeyfan1980]

Someone at some point is going to agree to go to Niagara and it’s going to be an incredible opportunity. Kind of like the contrarian point of view. If nobody goes, the opportunity for the ones that do could possibly be immense.

 

[OMG67]

Someone at some point is going to agree to go to Niagara and it’s going to be an incredible opportunity. Kind of like the contrarian point of view. If nobody goes, the opportunity for the ones that do could possibly be immense.

Of course there will be a ranked list for Niagara to select from. At some point, a player will say yes. They question is how far down that list do they need to go? Most of the insiders for that draft class suggest they’d have to go pretty far down that list to get a player to report. They can choose to do that or they could throw caution to the wind and draft best player available and force that players hand into signing or waiting until January to play somewhere else.

 

[dirty12]

Of course there will be a ranked list for Niagara to select from. At some point, a player will say yes. They question is how far down that list do they need to go? Most of the insiders for that draft class suggest they’d have to go pretty far down that list to get a player to report. They can choose to do that or they could throw caution to the wind and draft best player available and force that players hand into signing or waiting until January to play somewhere else.

Niagara acquirIng a 2nd or two prior to the draft might be an indication of how difficult it will be for Niagara to sign BPA. There could be an opportunity to attract border line 1sts that will only go to the OHL if given a gold education package, and add picks in January trading 1-2 of their 1sts.
Next season Lavoie & Leblanc would have 2 of 7 gold packages, and maybe Ride & Copeland?

 

[EvenSteven]

I like that idea. Acquire a couple of 2nds prior to the draft giving them 3x2nds. Then, draft BPA who will play in this league with both 1sts. Use 2nds on players who will report to Niagara.

If they get one or both of the 1sts to report, then bonus. If not, deal both for a landslide of assets either in September or at the deadline.

Beats the heck out of using one or both of the 1sts on a player ranked way lower in the round.

 

[OMG67]

Niagara acquirIng a 2nd or two prior to the draft might be an indication of how difficult it will be for Niagara to sign BPA. There could be an opportunity to attract border line 1sts that will only go to the OHL if given a gold education package, and add picks in January trading 1-2 of their 1sts.
Next season Lavoie & Leblanc would have 2 of 7 gold packages, and maybe Ride & Copeland?

You are dominating this discussion with wise options, sir.

 

[Tornado675]

Notes from the 2023 OHL Cup - Recruit Scouting

Gavin Chiasson The 2023 OHL Cup has now come and gone and I personally made the trip down to Toronto at the Scotiabank Pond to catch the action. The tournament includes some of the top names for the 2023 OHL Draft, and can showcase some of the future top OHL talent, and possibly some of […]

www.recruitscouting.com

 

[Hockeyfan1980]

Notes from the 2023 OHL Cup - Recruit Scouting

Gavin Chiasson The 2023 OHL Cup has now come and gone and I personally made the trip down to Toronto at the Scotiabank Pond to catch the action. The tournament includes some of the top names for the 2023 OHL Draft, and can showcase some of the future top OHL talent, and possibly some of […]

www.recruitscouting.com

Lots of great work in here, bravo!

 

[charberoo]

Wolves 4 Knights 1. Tie game after 2 periods, but some rather uninspired play by London in the 3rd was the difference and the Wolves capitalized. Series could be over tomorrow night in London.

 

[Hockeyfan1980]

GTHL Regular season scoring leaders - Playoff teams only

JRC
Romano
Yanni
Malkhassian
O'Brien
Wang

Marlies
Katzin
Moore
Cadorin
Lane
Martin

Senators
Taylor
Manza
Valentini
Brassard
Long

Rebels
Delisle
Czata (tie)
Dec (tie)
Tissier
Freeman

Vaughan
Mcchesney
Kostuch
Galiyanov
Frolov
Serov

Flyers
Tsherna
Lombardi
Moses
Anderson
Smeeton

Nats
Rai
Mainville
Teixeiera
Delcolombo
Punchard

Rangers
Okovita
Mostaife
Rosella
Klatil
Culmone

Top 10
Katzin
Moore
Cadorin
Lane
Taylor
Martin
Romano
Rai
Tsherna (tie)
Yanni (tie)

 

[Postulates]

GTHL Regular season scoring leaders - Playoff teams only

JRC
Romano
Yanni
Malkhassian
O'Brien
Wang

Marlies
Katzin
Moore
Cadorin
Lane
Martin

Senators
Taylor
Manza
Valentini
Brassard
Long

Rebels
Delisle
Czata (tie)
Dec (tie)
Tissier
Freeman

Vaughan
Mcchesney
Kostuch
Galiyanov
Frolov
Serov

Flyers
Tsherna
Lombardi
Moses
Anderson
Smeeton

Nats
Rai
Mainville
Teixeiera
Delcolombo
Punchard

Rangers
Okovita
Mostaife
Rosella
Klatil
Culmone

Top 10
Katzin
Moore
Cadorin
Lane
Taylor
Martin
Romano
Rai
Tsherna (tie)
Yanni (tie)

Mind if i ask but is this out anywhere?

 

[Hockeyfan1980]

All OHL teams have statistics from every league and likely from coaches of every team. Coach statistics correct for referee mistakes, in theory. The list above is from gamesheets only - so as reported direct by the GTHL to the OHL teams.

 

[LDN]

Not that Cameron is a bad prospect but I feel like the Petes will be leaning more so towards a forward with how many graduations they will have in the top 6/7

If Moore falls to London that would be good!

 

[OHL4Life]

If Moore falls to London that would be good!

why is that?

 

[DeletedAccountt]

why is that?

Because London and the Hunters are the longest running conspiracy next to the illuminati.... duh

 

[LDN]

Because London and the Hunters are the longest running conspiracy next to the illuminati.... duh

We need good players

 

[OHL4Life]

We need good players

hes not going to the ohl, so why draft him? who is the last big name us player that the hunters recruited out of collect? its like gilmartin? its been 4/5 years.

 

[OHLFan03]

GTHL Regular season scoring leaders - Playoff teams only

JRC
Romano
Yanni
Malkhassian
O'Brien
Wang

Marlies
Katzin
Moore
Cadorin
Lane
Martin

Senators
Taylor
Manza
Valentini
Brassard
Long

Rebels
Delisle
Czata (tie)
Dec (tie)
Tissier
Freeman

Vaughan
Mcchesney
Kostuch
Galiyanov
Frolov
Serov

Flyers
Tsherna
Lombardi
Moses
Anderson
Smeeton

Nats
Rai
Mainville
Teixeiera
Delcolombo
Punchard

Rangers
Okovita
Mostaife
Rosella
Klatil
Culmone

Top 10
Katzin
Moore
Cadorin
Lane
Taylor
Martin
Romano
Rai
Tsherna (tie)
Yanni (tie)

Have a hard time believing Addy wasnt in that for JRC

 

[OMG67]

hes not going to the ohl, so why draft him? who is the last big name us player that the hunters recruited out of collect? its like gilmartin? its been 4/5 years.

There is a safety net of the comp pick next year if they can’t get him signed. Taht said, they probably would have a strong sense either way well before the draft.

From a strategy perspective, I am not sure the double 1st round pick sets a team up better for a playoff run a few years later or not.