Prospect Info: #166 Overall, LW Josh Filmon, Swift Current WHL

[forceten]

Oh you mean he's likely to hold out endlessly to squeeze the lemon pits into the soup?

 

[DevilsHughes86]

He's turning out to be quite the find for the Devils.

Another potential "Jesper Bratt"-type pick (and I mean that in terms of where he was picked, not talent-wise).

I want to see how he will be able to fare in the AHL next....(or will he? I don't know how this works.)

He is eligible for another year of junior hockey, pretty sure that's where he will play

 

[Call Me Al]

yeah we have a long time to wait for this kid to see if he's the real deal, hopefully this isn't just a fluky season and he builds on it

 

[Eggtimer]

He is eligible for another year of junior hockey, pretty sure that's where he will play

More than likely. For as impressive as he has been , he needs to stay in Jr hockey another year . Work on his 200ft game and fill out more. I can’t see him in the AHL unless he beefs up a ton in the offseason.

 

[glenwo2]

Oh you mean he's likely to hold out endlessly to squeeze the lemon pits into the soup?

Can Bratt please re-sign so there's no longer snarky posts like this one.

 

[hockeykid87]

Biggest game of the season for Swift Current. Need a win to keep their playoff hopes alive. Filmon doing his part.

 

[Darkauron]

He really seems like a gem in the rough. Lanky but a great shot

 

[PizzaAndPucks]

Another goal and another assist tonight !

 

[BurntToast]

I don’t know much, but we have two videos where he jams the puck carrier and steals the puck for goals. That is more promising than the goals themselves. That is modern hockey in my opinion. With his size (if he is 6”3) you would hope for some good board work, but if he can hold position and disrupt plays, his defensive zone play should be fine.

 

[hockeykid87]

Tough ending to the season for the Broncos, but an incredible step forward for Filmon. He's gone from 2 goals to 45 points to 47 goals over the past three seasons.

Not 100% sure but he may be heading to Utica on a PTO.

 

[Eggtimer]

Another goal and another assist tonight !

I went to the game. I got a few death stares from people around me when I cheered for the Broncos. Pretty sure if I wasnt with my daughter I would have had some more issues with fans lol .

 

[Devs3cups]

I went to the game. I got a few death stares from people around me when I cheered for the Broncos. Pretty sure if I wasnt with my daughter I would have had some more issues with fans lol .

Cool! How did you like Filmon’s game? Anything that stuck out to you live?

 

[nugg]

Tough ending to the season for the Broncos, but an incredible step forward for Filmon. He's gone from 2 goals to 45 points to 47 goals over the past three seasons.

Not 100% sure but he may be heading to Utica on a PTO.

Not eligible for Utica next season yet though, correct?

 

[hockeykid87]

Not eligible for Utica next season yet though, correct?

Nope. He is either New Jersey or Swift Current next season. And he is not strong enough for the NHL.

 

[Eggtimer]

Cool! How did you like Filmon’s game? Anything that stuck out to you live?

Nothimg really that stands out besides he is very good at finding the quiet spots on the ice to get good shots off. He is a scrawny beanpole lol. I tried to focus on him shift by shift but it was tricky when having a 7 year old with you lol. His skating was better than I thought he would have.

Nope. He is either New Jersey or Swift Current next season. And he is not strong enough for the NHL.

Ya no way he can play in NJ or even Utica (if he was eligible but he is not). He needs to put some meat on his bones.

 

[Xirik]

Wish he could go the NCAA route as that league seems more focused on building up your body.

 

[hockeykid87]

Will be signing with Utica tomorrow

 

[devilsblood]

Will be signing with Utica tomorrow

To finish the season. Cool.

If he get's some toi and can actually contribute?

 

[devilsblood]

yeah we have a long time to wait for this kid to see if he's the real deal, hopefully this isn't just a fluky season and he builds on it

He was the teams leading goal scorer last year, he was the teams leading goal scorer this year.

This year's numbers are certainly lofty, but I don't think flukey. Team comes back next year, likely with most all the key contributors returning. Filmon will likely work on getting stronger in the offseason. I expect a big year #'s wise again. Though maybe a bit more assist heavy.

 

[Hockey Sports Fan]

Will be signing with Utica tomorrow

i thought he was too young, or is that only for players signed to NHL contracts?

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

i thought he was too young, or is that only for players signed to NHL contracts?

I believe the rule is that U-20 CHL players can sign an ATO with their AHL teams for the rest of the season once their junior season ends.

 

[Triumph]

He was the teams leading goal scorer last year, he was the teams leading goal scorer this year.

This year's numbers are certainly lofty, but I don't think flukey. Team comes back next year, likely with most all the key contributors returning. Filmon will likely work on getting stronger in the offseason. I expect a big year #'s wise again. Though maybe a bit more assist heavy.

It's definitely fluky, though I suppose it depends on how you define fluky. Obviously what explains most of his goal scoring is opportunity and skill - he's a very good player and he's used heavily on PP1.

Scorers of 35 or more goals in the WHL shooting percentage:

Bedard: 19.7%
Uchacz: 22.5%
Berezowski: 17.8%
Wheatcroft: 17.3%
Filmon: 22.8%
McLennon: 18.9%
Ziemmer: 18.1%
Firkus: 16.3%
Sikorov: 16.3%
Calvert: 18.9%
Hofer: 14.4%
Cristall: 17.9%
Savoie: 15.3%
Suzdalev: 24.7%
Davidson: 13.3%
Lisowsky: 16.0%
Bankier: 17.8%
Thorpe: 16.7%
Benson: 18.6%
Howe: 24.1%
Geekie: 19.9%
Klassen: 13.1%

Eyeballing the rest of the list, there's a few other guys over 20%, but Filmon's shooting percentage is almost certainly top 10 in the league among qualified players. The shooting percentage leaders in the NHL tend to be a list of different people every year with the best guys appearing multiple times over their careers - while I would expect Filmon to be near the top again, there's nothing that says he definitely will be, and it's extremely unlikely he's this much better than the majority of his peers.

Long story short, if he plays 65 games next season, I expect him to score around 40-45 goals. He'll need a real jump in shot rate to go farther.

 

[devilsblood]

It's definitely fluky, though I suppose it depends on how you define fluky. Obviously what explains most of his goal scoring is opportunity and skill - he's a very good player and he's used heavily on PP1.

Scorers of 35 or more goals in the WHL shooting percentage:

Bedard: 19.7%
Uchacz: 22.5%
Berezowski: 17.8%
Wheatcroft: 17.3%
Filmon: 22.8%
McLennon: 18.9%
Ziemmer: 18.1%
Firkus: 16.3%
Sikorov: 16.3%
Calvert: 18.9%
Hofer: 14.4%
Cristall: 17.9%
Savoie: 15.3%
Suzdalev: 24.7%
Davidson: 13.3%
Lisowsky: 16.0%
Bankier: 17.8%
Thorpe: 16.7%
Benson: 18.6%
Howe: 24.1%
Geekie: 19.9%
Klassen: 13.1%

Eyeballing the rest of the list, there's a few other guys over 20%, but Filmon's shooting percentage is almost certainly top 10 in the league among qualified players. The shooting percentage leaders in the NHL tend to be a list of different people every year with the best guys appearing multiple times over their careers - while I would expect Filmon to be near the top again, there's nothing that says he definitely will be, and it's extremely unlikely he's this much better than the majority of his peers.

Long story short, if he plays 65 games next season, I expect him to score around 40-45 goals. He'll need a real jump in shot rate to go farther.

If u expect 40-45 next year then by definition you don’t see this year as flukey.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a trade in terms of higher shot rate for shooting %. Or even goals for assists.

But team fundamentals do suggest he should have another big season next year.

 

[Devils731]

If u expect 40-45 next year then by definition you don’t see this year as flukey.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a trade in terms of higher shot rate for shooting %. Or even goals for assists.

But team fundamentals do suggest he should have another big season next year.

For most guys that will go into the NHL, you expect to see some to a lot of additional production each year.

So if his goal scoring stays the same next year then this year would be flukey because his high shooting percentage put his goal scoring onto a level higher than his norm.

There is sort of a soft “max” a player can hit and Filmon is probably close to that level with goals, so maybe it’s a little unfair to expect improvement. I think it still goes back to his shooting percentage being high as being a little fluky.

The bloom would probably be off of Filmon a little bit if he scores 40 goals next year in a full season.

 

[Triumph]

If u expect 40-45 next year then by definition you don’t see this year as flukey.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a trade in terms of higher shot rate for shooting %. Or even goals for assists.

But team fundamentals do suggest he should have another big season next year.

I think the bars on fluke seasons are pretty narrow. Seldom do you see a player fluke their way into a great season only to not be any good next year, especially in junior hockey where the competition gets younger the more you age. Even Angelo Esposito, whose great D-1 season looks to be a product of Alex Radulov and who fell from a consensus top 5 pick to 20th overall, was still managing nearly .7 goals per game in his final junior season. That was the last time he had exceptional production outside of the Italian league.

So yeah, I think Filmon's expectation was to score in the mid to high 30s this season and he instead scored 47. Likewise, I think his expectation is to score mid 40s next season.