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Speculation: 12/13' Trades/Proposals: Trade market is officially open.(LEAFS)

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TK said:
There really aren't any great goalie prospects right now. I'm not counting Holtby either considering he's probably gonna be the starter for Washington this season.

Markstrom, Lehner, Hackett, Vasilevski, Campbell, etc. etc. have some promise, but I'm not sure either of them will reach an elite level...There isn't a goalie prospect right now that is a step up from the others, someone that can be the face of goalie prospects in the NHL. Maybe Markstrom.
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Markstrom has the highest potential on that list.... another guy that could become an elite goalie due to depth in front of him and being developed properly is Gibson hes played absolutely filthy since being drafted by anaheim
 
If one goalie claims the starters spot in St. Louis I wouldn't mind making a package around Gunnarsson for Halak or Elliot.
 
Seeing how Nonis most likely backed out of Lombardi to PHX trade, I think the plan is to play him as the 1 and 3 C to see if he is any good. Then if he does well, we could eat like 2M-3M of his salary and get a mid round pick for him.
 
I remember last season it took him a while to get going but he was skating really really well in the game against Nashville before he got hurt.

I think Lombardi can surprise but I don't want him on the top 2 lines. If Nonis can make space for him on the lower lines then he can add the element of speed and offense from the bottom six.

Something has to give, though. There simply isn't enough room for Connolly, Lombardi, Frattin, Kadri, Komarov, Brown, McClement.

Lupul - Kadri - Kessel
JVR - Grabo - McArthur
Kulemin - Bozak - Connolly
Komarov - McClement - Steckel/Lombardi

I'm hoping for these lines. This means no space for Frattin and Brown at the moment.

Something absolutely has to give here.
 
Dark Knight said:
I remember last season it took him a while to get going but he was skating really really well in the game against Nashville before he got hurt.

I think Lombardi can surprise but I don't want him on the top 2 lines. If Nonis can make space for him on the lower lines then he can add the element of speed and offense from the bottom six.

Something has to give, though. There simply isn't enough room for Connolly, Lombardi, Frattin, Kadri, Komarov, Brown, McClement.

Lupul - Kadri - Kessel
JVR - Grabo - McArthur
Kulemin - Bozak - Connolly
Komarov - McClement - Steckel/Lombardi

I'm hoping for these lines. This means no space for Frattin and Brown at the moment.

Something absolutely has to give here.
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My bet is we'll see something Friday .. Carlyle needs as long of a look as possible to evaluate the pieces, wouldn't surprise me to see Nonis having some deals lined up for whomever Carlyle doesn't see fitting in the roster
 
Get creative with a 3-way trade :laugh:

To Chicago: Mikhail Grabovski, Nikolai Kulemin, and Matt Finn
To Coloado: Patrick Sharp, Clarke MacArthur, and Mark McNeill
To Toronto: Paul Stastny, Niklas Hjalmarsson, and Jamie McGinn



New Roster:

Joffrey Lupul - Tyler Bozak - Phil Kessel
James van Riemsdyk - Paul Stastny - Nazem Kadri
Jamie McGinn - Jay McClement - Tim Connolly
Mike Brown - David Steckel - Matt Frattin
(Leo Komarov, Colton Orr)

Carl Gunnarsson - Dion Phaneuf
Niklas Hjalmarsson - John-Michael Liles
Jake Gardiner - Mike Komisarek
(Cody Franson, Korbinian Holzer)

James Reimer
Ben Scrivens​


A little more creativity to get rid of Connolly and Lombardi:

To Florida: Tim Connolly
To Toronto: Garrett Ross or Vincent Troceck and 3 million of Connolly's contact

To Phoenix: Matthew Lombardi
To Toronto: Lucas Lessio or Philip Lane and 2 million of Lombardi's contract
 
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Chandrashekhar Limit said:
That trade only makes sense for the Leafs.
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Chicago gets the #2 center they want as well as a power winger that they need. Sharp and Hjalmarsson out - Grabovski and Kulemin in (+Finn, -McNeill)


Colorado gets to swap one of their 3 top-6 centers for a 1st line winger.
Stastny and McGinn out - Sharp and MacAthur in (+McNeill)
 
I had this thought last night, if Kessel does not want to re-sign with us by the deadline.

Kessel and Gardiner to Minnesota for Granlund, Dumba, Heatley, a first, and a second.

Leafs flip Heatley to Florida for Vince Troechek(Biggs Center for the gold medal USA team) and a second rd pick.

End result. Florida hits cap ceiling, add a top 6 forward, Minnesota gets two players that fill their current needs, and they can market for years in their continual pursuit of going for it, Leafs get 3 near ready prospects and 3 valuable picks to retool and rebuild.

Vince Troechek, Granlund, Dumba, a first and 2 second rd picks. Making the Kessel trade a lot more palatable.
 
Interactif said:
I had this thought last night, if Kessel does not want to re-sign with us by the deadline.

Kessel and Gardiner to Minnesota for Granlund, Dumba, Heatley, a first, and a second.

Leafs flip Heatley to Florida for Vince Troechek(Biggs Center for the gold medal USA team) and a second rd pick.

End result. Florida hits cap ceiling, add a top 6 forward, Minnesota gets two players that fill their current needs, and they can market for years in their continual pursuit of going for it, Leafs get 3 near ready prospects and 3 valuable picks to retool and rebuild.

Vince Troechek, Granlund, Dumba, a first and 2 second rd picks. Making the Kessel trade a lot more palatable.
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I would probably do this. Gives us longterm control over some pretty good assets. Dumba also upgrades the physical nature of our blueline longterm, which was a weakness. He can likely provide fairly similar PP / 5 on 5 play as Gardiner otherwise.

Granlund is a top top prospect. He's been playing against men for years and looked really good while doing it. Could potentially become our #1 C. + a bunch of picks that give us flexibility going into this draft.

I'd also assume that after this trade, we'd be heading for another bottom 5 finish, giving us yet another big piece to build around.

Honestly, if a Kessel trade gets pulled off this season and gets pulled off well. I think we could get the types of prospects between that trade + our 1st round pick, that we could essentially start building towards being a winner after that, with no further thoughts of bottom 5 finishes (though obviously they could still happen).
 
Dreakmur said:
Chicago gets the #2 center they want as well as a power winger that they need. Sharp and Hjalmarsson out - Grabovski and Kulemin in (+Finn, -McNeill)


Colorado gets to swap one of their 3 top-6 centers for a 1st line winger.
Stastny and McGinn out - Sharp and MacAthur in (+McNeill)
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Kulemin is not a power winger. He does have a physical edge to his game, but I wouldn't call him a power player.

While this trade solves Chicago's center issues, it really leaves a big hole in their defense for the time being. Without Hjalmarsson, it's Keith, Seabrook, and then a bunch of nobodys. I wouldn't move Hjalmarsson if I was Chicago.

As far as Colorado goes, most of their fans feel their team's greatest need is a high end defenseman. EJ is great, but they don't have much high end depth after him. They are better off dealing Stastny for defensive help than getting another winger.
 
416Leafer said:
I would probably do this. Gives us longterm control over some pretty good assets. Dumba also upgrades the physical nature of our blueline longterm, which was a weakness. He can likely provide fairly similar PP / 5 on 5 play as Gardiner otherwise.

Granlund is a top top prospect. He's been playing against men for years and looked really good while doing it. Could potentially become our #1 C. + a bunch of picks that give us flexibility going into this draft.

I'd also assume that after this trade, we'd be heading for another bottom 5 finish, giving us yet another big piece to build around.

Honestly, if a Kessel trade gets pulled off this season and gets pulled off well. I think we could get the types of prospects between that trade + our 1st round pick, that we could essentially start building towards being a winner after that, with no further thoughts of bottom 5 finishes (though obviously they could still happen).
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Nonis and his team have probably long in the thought process of what to do with Phil, will he continue to want to be part of the rebuild? Nash got tired of it at 27, the overriding motivation for players is they want to play for a winner, all play for a chance for a cup.

If Phil wants out, then we have to pull the trigger, rather than risk losing him for nothing.

The trade I prosposed would be a dream scenario. Imagine with a prospect pool of

Granlund
Dumba
Troechek
Drouin/Nichushkin
Bailey with our 2nd first rd pick
Rielly
Percy
Kadri
Biggs

From rags to one of the best in the NHL. It doesn't have to be exactly the players above, but something that is a long the lines of near ready prospects and picks. Not bad if Phil doesn't want to re-sign.
 
There's familiarity there and they are looking for a centre. What is Lombardi's value even? I have a hard time figuring that out haha.
 
samwitch said:
There's familiarity there and they are looking for a centre. What is Lombardi's value even? I have a hard time figuring that out haha.
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I'd imagine a 5th round pick or something along those lines. Salary dump / opens a roster spot. If we sent him down on waivers, I think only a handful of teams would take him, so his value represents that.
 
I think we should wait a little before moving Lombardi. If he can show something, we could get a 3rd for him. If he continues to struggle, we can trade him for scraps at the TDD, and eat some of his salary.
 
Chandrashekhar Limit said:
I think we should wait a little before moving Lombardi. If he can show something, we could get a 3rd for him. If he continues to struggle, we can trade him for scraps at the TDD, and eat some of his salary.
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Is it worth it to wait a half season (shortened or not) to move up from 5th to 3rd round in the draft? He'd be taking a roster spot from a young developing player I would think. I'd rather cut the cord on the Lambo project and give his spot on the big team to a guy like Kadri, Komarov or Frattin and see what they can do.

If Nonis can get a 5th for Lambo, I hope he pulls the trigger.
 
Can anyone in here make avatars? I'd really like a Leafs "tanking" one for Drouin. Not sure who or where to ask
 
Interactif said:
Nonis and his team have probably long in the thought process of what to do with Phil, will he continue to want to be part of the rebuild? Nash got tired of it at 27, the overriding motivation for players is they want to play for a winner, all play for a chance for a cup.

If Phil wants out, then we have to pull the trigger, rather than risk losing him for nothing.

The trade I prosposed would be a dream scenario. Imagine with a prospect pool of

Granlund
Dumba
Troechek
Drouin/Nichushkin
Bailey with our 2nd first rd pick
Rielly
Percy
Kadri
Biggs

From rags to one of the best in the NHL. It doesn't have to be exactly the players above, but something that is a long the lines of near ready prospects and picks. Not bad if Phil doesn't want to re-sign.
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Still got a rager for Dumba eh...

i would make that trade but only if Nonis feels Kessel wont sign.
 
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