GDT: 10/18 LA Kings @ Minnesota Wild 5 PM on FSW, FSN

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Absolutely, considering our Cup-winning teams consisted of homegrown talent.

Parts of it. Except for Carter, Richards, Mitchell, Scuderi, Penner, Williams, Greene, and Stoll for the first one, and Gaborik added for the second one.

The Flyers don't get rid of Carter or Richards. They just sign Bryzgalov, and go about their day. Then end up with Weber too. The Leafs would've signed Mitchell to a $10m contract, even if he was hurt, just to be their 8th defenseman. The Rangers don't trade Gaborik to Columbus.
 
i guess i feel targeted for this one

difference is... if Raccoon Jesus gets scored 5 goals on 4 shots, i'll say... well, what did you expect? it's Raccoon freakin Jesus!

but Quick sold me on being the best of the best, cream of the creme

so when he consistently gives up a goal on the first 8 shots i'm kinda like WTF

if this is hard for you to grasp, it's all good but yeah ****koff as a starter is ****!

I thought of you on the Quick thing, no lie :laugh: But everything else is more the way this thread is going...absolve goalie of all wrong, blame the team. We can sure play better, but Zatkoff isn't giving us a chance to win period.

I already feel better about Budaj's positioning. He should have been the starter anyway, he earned it last year imo.
 
so what happens first?

a roster player traded to shake things up?
a goalie acquired?
sutter fired?
put Andreoff on the first line?
 
I thought of you on the Quick thing, no lie :laugh: But everything else is more the way this thread is going...absolve goalie of all wrong, blame the team. We can sure play better, but Zatkoff isn't giving us a chance to win period.

I already feel better about Budaj's positioning. He should have been the starter anyway, he earned it last year imo.

He is also watching the puck, and not covering his eyes...
 
Honestly this team is better than they're playing - and trading King, Clifford, and whomever you want to add on the bottom six isn't going to make them better. Every team has a bottom six of equivalent skill - that's why they're a bottom six.

What you CAN do is look for value. So trading King and Clifford can open up some room in the cap because you can likely plug in replacements for them with equivalent skills for cheaper salaries. Brown, however, is a pipe dream. Gaborik, if he returns to the form he was showing in the World Cup may have value as a deadline deal.

But what do we do with the room we've acquired? Free agency is over. We'd still have to trade some quality away to get some back - and where do we need it? The back end. The bottom six is a red herring as far as I'm concerned.
 
Honestly this team is better than they're playing - and trading King, Clifford, and whomever you want to add on the bottom six isn't going to make them better. Every team has a bottom six of equivalent skill - that's why they're a bottom six.

What you CAN do is look for value. So trading King and Clifford can open up some room in the cap because you can likely plug in replacements for them with equivalent skills for cheaper salaries. Brown, however, is a pipe dream. Gaborik, if he returns to the form he was showing in the World Cup may have value as a deadline deal.

But what do we do with the room we've acquired? Free agency is over. We'd still have to trade some quality away to get some back - and where do we need it? The back end. The bottom six is a red herring as far as I'm concerned.

Also no one in the NHL wants to give up quality on the Back-end. Unless they are winning that trade by leaps and bounds.

Drafting is so important in the cap league. You can't afford to miss on the majority of your picks.
 
Honestly this team is better than they're playing - and trading King, Clifford, and whomever you want to add on the bottom six isn't going to make them better. Every team has a bottom six of equivalent skill - that's why they're a bottom six.

What you CAN do is look for value. So trading King and Clifford can open up some room in the cap because you can likely plug in replacements for them with equivalent skills for cheaper salaries. Brown, however, is a pipe dream. Gaborik, if he returns to the form he was showing in the World Cup may have value as a deadline deal.

But what do we do with the room we've acquired? Free agency is over. We'd still have to trade some quality away to get some back - and where do we need it? The back end. The bottom six is a red herring as far as I'm concerned.

At this point it is not about getting better, it is about staying the same talent wise and freeing up a ton of cap space.

Lewis - expensive
Clifford - expensive and replaceable by Andreoff
King - expensive, UFA replaceable by Mersch

Even trading King if we are out allows us to see if Mersch is an option next year
 
Honestly this team is better than they're playing - and trading King, Clifford, and whomever you want to add on the bottom six isn't going to make them better. Every team has a bottom six of equivalent skill - that's why they're a bottom six.

What you CAN do is look for value. So trading King and Clifford can open up some room in the cap because you can likely plug in replacements for them with equivalent skills for cheaper salaries. Brown, however, is a pipe dream. Gaborik, if he returns to the form he was showing in the World Cup may have value as a deadline deal.

But what do we do with the room we've acquired? Free agency is over. We'd still have to trade some quality away to get some back - and where do we need it? The back end. The bottom six is a red herring as far as I'm concerned.

That's what makes trading them complicated. The other teams out there can do the same thing with their own players. On top of that, if they're outdated players, where is their value?
 
At this point it is not about getting better, it is about staying the same talent wise and freeing up a ton of cap space.

Lewis - expensive
Clifford - expensive and replaceable by Andreoff
King - expensive, UFA replaceable by Mersch

Even trading King if we are out allows us to see if Mersch is an option next year

They just re up him for F O U R more years!
 

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