Boston Bruins 024-2025 Roster & Salary Cap Discussion VII

[Gonzothe7thDman]

But did they win because of Coyle & Zacha, or despite them?

Personally, I think Jeremy Swayman had an awful lot more to do with that win than the centers did.

Bingo.

Stellar performance, Bruins still went down 3-1 to the Panthers.

If Swayman just turned in a solid performance, Bruins probably lose in 5. And I don’t see them beating the leafs either

 

[Roll 4 Lines]

I know that the Sens don't want to give up Pinto.
I know that the Bruins have announced/scheduled a "draft party."
But, if the Bruins traded Ullmark for Pinto with no additions, would that
work for us here?


How about Detroit; 1st round pick 2024, 2nd round pick in 2025?

You can sign me up! But if think if that could happen, it already would have.......but, what do I know?!

 

[DaBroons]

Hey Lou, remember the days when OEL only wanted to come to Boston (with Garland) from Arizona but the B's weren't interested? Yeah, good times!

I think Jeremy or Cam vetoed the trade b/c Chia was giving up 2 #1s. Then he was fired shortly thereafter, IIRC.

 

[Shoebottom88]

But did they win because of Coyle & Zacha, or despite them?

Personally, I think Jeremy Swayman had an awful lot more to do with that win than the centers did.

No doubt. Swayman was sensational. But my point is you can win with Coyle/Zacha. I’m almost 100% sure we beat Florida in ‘22/23 if we kept Coyle down the middle instead of Bergeron. Do you know why? Cause Boston had great wingers like Hall & Bertuzzi who left in the off season. If you improve the D, goalie and team toughness, provide more scoring from the wingers then this offseason was a success IMO. And this team can compete vs any team in this league.

 

[GordonHowe]

So, it appears that basically nothing is happening today on the Ullmark front. Correct?

 

[LouJersey]

But did they win because of Coyle & Zacha, or despite them?

Personally, I think Jeremy Swayman had an awful lot more to do with that win than the centers did.

100% despite them. When your top 2 centers score 2 goals combined your goalie needs to have a round for the history books. He could have used more scoring help in the Florida series, but the top two centers, and a lot of guys were on the back of a milk carton.

 

[DominicT]

today's been quiet.

.....too quiet

Well, I am at work.

 

[Ratty]

So, it appears that basically nothing is happening today on the Ullmark front. Correct?

The day is young and you are beautiful.

 

[DKH]

So, it appears that basically nothing is happening today on the Ullmark front. Correct?

Going down tomorrow at 3 pm (waiting for confirmation if Vegas time or Boston time)

 

[GordonHowe]

The day is young and you are beautiful.

I always thought so. Thanks for the confirmation.

 

[Roll 4 Lines]

No doubt. Swayman was sensational. But my point is you can win with Coyle/Zacha. I’m almost 100% sure we beat Florida in ‘22/23 if we kept Coyle down the middle instead of Bergeron. Do you know why? Cause Boston had great wingers like Hall & Bertuzzi who left in the off season. If you improve the D, goalie and team toughness, provide more scoring from the wingers then this offseason was a success IMO. And this team can compete vs any team in this league.

The bolded MIGHT be true, due to Bergeron's injuries, but I stand with the poster who claims that no team is winning a cup with Cyole and Zacha as their #1 & #2 centers.

 

[Bruinaura]

Dear NHL GMs:

 

[Drift]

I think your suggestion here may be a little off.

Chychrun may not have elite acceleration, but the numbers you posted here have him in the 79th percentile for his position. Now compare that to who he would be replacing in a guy like Derek Forbort. The difference will be noticeable from puck drop.

And FWIW, I think Frederic has very underrated speed. He’s an excellent skater.

True as I read it more and started undersatnding in more Chychrun isn't blazing fast, but isn't slow either. Lindholm on the other hand doesn't fit the story as much unless you are talking about improving over Maroon.

 

[Dr Hook]

So getting faster doesn't necessarily mean you need to have a bunch of guys with blazing skating speed. I hear it more as playing faster. You need team speed, of course, but smart players like Bergie was, and Lindholm is, don't need high top end speed to play a fast game. There's always room for the mid-speed guys that can think and react fast. Agree on Maroon type speed, though- that can go.

 

[SPV]

I can’t wait to read all the comments about how soft we are next season if we let Maroon walk and don’t replace him with someone else. Or the complaints about how much we are paying for a different fourth liner.

 

[bruinmann77]

Everyone enjoy game seven highly doubt any trade news will happen today

 

[BigGoalBrad]

The only chance we have of moving Lindholm should the contract be one we regret is if he’s firmly the 3rd LD. And if that’s the case it’s a good problem to have assuming the other guys are that good. He’s a 6 overall pick former #1 D man who isn’t that old.

I can’t wait to read all the comments about how soft we are next season if we let Maroon walk and don’t replace him with someone else. Or the complaints about how much we are paying for a different fourth liner.

You thought Maroon added toughness with his fake tough guy act? Seriously people liked the crap he did in warmups?

 

[BlackFrancis]

So getting faster doesn't necessarily mean you need to have a bunch of guys with blazing skating speed. I hear it more as playing faster. You need team speed, of course, but smart players like Bergie was, and Lindholm is, don't need high top end speed to play a fast game. There's always room for the mid-speed guys that can think and react fast. Agree on Maroon type speed, though- that can go.

It kind of felt as though Bergeron didn't have a clean breakaway since game 7 against the Canucks.

You are correct about separating the brain and the feet. Only thing missing is guys with both, though you can fragment them into different classes as well - guys like Paille, who have brains that only work near the blueline of his own zone or players who seem to be not all that fast until chasing down an opponent's breakaway.

Regardless, the Bruins need the low effort goals speed brings. I said it a lot during Cassidy's tenure - you really don't want to grind out 250+ goals over the course of a season.

 

[yazmybaby]

Personally want zero to do with Hertl, guy is cooked and dog shit defensively.

Take their first rounder and Hague

I would take Karlsson straight up.
He is a proven center, maybe not a true #1, but def a #2.
And he is signed for three years at a decent contract 5.9 a year.
Add Lindholm to the team and we immediately have much improved Centers, allows Zacha to move to LW along with Potsy playing RW.

 

[SPV]

The only chance we have of moving Lindholm should the contract be one we regret is if he’s firmly the 3rd LD. And if that’s the case it’s a good problem to have assuming the other guys are that good. He’s a 6 overall pick former #1 D man who isn’t that old.


You thought Maroon added toughness with his fake tough guy act? Seriously people liked the crap he did in warmups?

I thought him being a tough guy was adding toughness. He certainly wasn’t as healthy as I would have liked, but he’s a legitimate tough player in today’s NHL

 

[GatorMike]

“Boston is hoping for a higher price than New Jersey paid for Markstrom, and the teams that are interested - including Ottawa - that are looking at this are like, we're not interested in paying that price if it doesn’t come with an extension.”

 

[Dr Quincy]

No doubt. Swayman was sensational. But my point is you can win with Coyle/Zacha. I’m almost 100% sure we beat Florida in ‘22/23 if we kept Coyle down the middle instead of Bergeron. Do you know why? Cause Boston had great wingers like Hall & Bertuzzi who left in the off season. If you improve the D, goalie and team toughness, provide more scoring from the wingers then this offseason was a success IMO. And this team can compete vs any team in this league.

The number of teams that won a Cup having 2 legit top 6 or even borderline 2 1Cs, far outweighs the championship teams that had a good D corps and goaltending (thought lots of teams had all of those).

I also wonder what your suggestion is to improve the goaltending this year.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

I thought him being a tough guy was adding toughness. He certainly wasn’t as healthy as I would have liked, but he’s a legitimate tough player in today’s NHL

How many fights did he have after the whistle face washing or extremely late inconsequential hits after guys passed the puck bc he was so slow didn’t do it for me.

Trashy poor sportsmanship before the game and chirping the opponents in warmups is toughness in todays NHL. Hope the losers on Florida get their karma for that crap tonight.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

Everyone enjoy game seven highly doubt any trade news will happen today

I’m a terrible Canadian haven’t watched hockey at all since Bruins were eliminated,just can’t bring myself to cheer for Edmonton,will have to hear about Canada winning the cup all summer,and don’t want Florida either really.If it’s not the Bruins playing just not interested,I know I’m a terrible hockey fan.

 

[Bridges31]

I can’t wait to read all the comments about how soft we are next season if we let Maroon walk and don’t replace him with someone else. Or the complaints about how much we are paying for a different fourth liner.

Well Maroon skates about as fast as he can walk.

I’d rather they go after a third liner that’s more in a power forward role who isn’t way past his prime. Maroon was a failed experiment here imo.