Sportsnet: “All bets are off” in regards to Babcock

[IPS]

My stance is that this team is no longer worth watching till the guys upstairs get up off their asses and do something.

You hear the term "statement game" get thrown out once in awhile when a team has a dominant performance. Our game last night was a "statement game" but in a very bad way. Doesn't do shit if the management doesn't see the sign though.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Interestingly enough for me, this team has become more watchable as they make the transition to mediocre to terrible. A mediocre team is very boring and disappointing. A terrible team has drama and now I've been tuning in more.

Feels bad man

 

[Rare Jewel]

So ummmm... for an insider to say this... how bad is it?

Yeah, I do feel though that a lot media like him have been rather light on them.

 

[frizzer1]

It appears to me that there is as much dysfunction in the front office as there is on the ice.

 

[IPS]

Tanks and gain what? The rebuild has begun, we are in year 3 or 4 by now, I can't keep track.

Perpetual rebuild isn't a winner. A rebuild is supposed to happen AFTER you win a Cup, or at least make it to the finals and must recycle, retweak to stay atop.

The #1 problem with the team right now is the unacceptable effort / work rate. Firing Babcock is the most logical thing to do to try to remedy this issue. Players don't go to war for a coach they don't believe in.

 

[xxOCZMSxx]

Just checking in. Any info leaked today I need to know about?

 

[A1LeafNation]

Start the countdown.

Barely won in the playoffs in 10 years.

Bad PP and PK in this regular season and playoffs with the Leafs to date.

Goalie mismanagement and unable to make in game adjustments.

He is worse than Dwayne Casey.

 

[frizzer1]

Just checking in. Any info leaked today I need to know about?

Babcock is still the coach

 

[saffronleaf]

Looks like Babcock is going to finish out his contract. Management seems supremely patient.

I give up on this team.

 

[Ciao]

Babcock is due $18.75M after this season. He isn't going anywhere.

His contract is front-loaded, and even if it weren't the money is not an issue. MLSE has money to burn, just as long as it doesn't count against the cap.

 

[Bluelines]

He’s not really saying anything we aren’t saying. I’d like him to say something about what Shanahan/Dubas are doing to clean up the current mess, or if they are just going let it get bigger?

These insiders usually stay out of commenting in this manner.

 

[PuckMagi]

Has Babcock been fired yet?

 

[BTP]

players are going to have to figure it out.

its on them.

as it should be.

 

[Leafs at Knight]

My stance is that this team is no longer worth watching till the guys upstairs get up off their asses and do something.

You just got to this point?

 

[ToMaLe]

Has Babcock been fired yet?

No, and if Babcock is not gone before it’s too late to salvage the season, I hope Dubas and Shanny is also fired. If they can’t see this is not the right coach for this team, then they are all the wrong management for this team.

 

[Kiwi]

players are going to have to figure it out.

its on them.

as it should be.

No, this is on the players, coaches and management staff

I've lost patients with the old "let the players figure it out" theory and want something proactive done to try arresting this slide because surprisingly enough doing Jack **** hasn't worked

 

[On-the-Fly]

4 games and then 2 sets of back to backs, back to back. Then 2 more to close out December.

Tough time to bring in a new coach, especially one you'd need to make a quick positive impression.

 

[rumman]

No, this is on the players, coaches and management staff

I've lost patients with the old "let the players figure it out" theory and want something proactive done to try arresting this slide because surprisingly enough doing Jack **** hasn't worked

exactly.

 

[rumman]

4 games and then 2 sets of back to backs, back to back. Then 2 more to close out December.

Tough time to bring in a new coach, especially one you'd need to make a quick positive impression.

is there ever a good time to bring in a new coach during the season?

 

[killer1980]

I remember a few years ago we were all calling for a boycott so management would get off their butts and do something. Well, the good news now is, with all the cord cutting and this team's performance MLSE is making a virtual boycott happen all by themselves. I haven't spent this much time with my wife on Saturdays since before we were married. And I can tell that ain't much fun but better than watching these stiffs.

 

[Leaf4Life79]

Start the countdown.

Barely won in the playoffs in 10 years.

Bad PP and PK in this regular season and playoffs with the Leafs to date.

Goalie mismanagement and unable to make in game adjustments.

He is worse than Dwayne Casey.

But,but.... It is OUR TIME! 'said only Babcock and nobody else' smh

 

[Vaive50]

If this team has any pride, they will show it in Vegas. Another loss like last night and the players have checked out or are simply not good enough. You can decide for yourself.

And guess what? Vegas is also on a 5-game losing streak, it's their team record low. So one of the teams will break their streak in that game. Why do I feel it will be Vegas who breaks their streak.

 

[On-the-Fly]

is there ever a good time to bring in a new coach during the season?

Lol. Maybe not!

But there's definitely a 'less bad' time!

 

[Kiwi]

And guess what? Vegas is also on a 5-game losing streak, it's their team record low. So one of the teams will break their streak in that game. Why do I feel it will be Vegas who breaks their streak.

Boston we're struggling before they played us as well, something like 4 games without a win I believe

We did them a favor and got them back on track, Vegas is about to feel really good about themselves

We're a real slump buster

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

I’d recommend keeping Babcock. Problem isn’t him.

How many hall of fame/Stanley cup winning coaches do the leafs need to discard before they find an actual good coach?

I’d recommend consistency and patience.