Boston Bruins ‘22-‘23 Bruins roster and trade proposals discussions.

[Hookslide]

I’m not interested in making the Bruins worse on purpose this year.

I am not not comfortable come playoffs with Clifton.................Gryz is a much better player..

 

[bme44]

I am not not comfortable come playoffs with Clifton.................Gryz is a much better player..

at almost four times the cap hit

 

[Tbaybruin]

at almost four times the cap hit

Clifton was great in the playoffs las5 year. He’s been great this year.

 

[bme44]

Feeling better about a long playoff run with Reilly or Zboril instead of Grizz is certainly something. But I know he’s wicked small. So small it’s awful.

That is not what I am saying . I am talking about maximizing your assets and putting the best playoff team on the ice. While managing your cap and planing for the future

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

That is not what I am saying . I am talking about maximizing your assets and putting the best playoff team on the ice. While managing your cap and planing for the future

I know. I just don’t know how anyone could think Reilly or Zboril gives us a better playoff team than Grizz. I mean I do know because I read it here all the time. Because he’s wicked small.

 

[Grimey]

I know. I just don’t know how anyone could think Reilly or Zboril gives us a better playoff team than Grizz. I mean I do know because I read it here all the time. Because he’s wicked small.

Some people neglect all the positives purely because of his height. He gets pushed around in front of the net; he also does many other things very well. Him and Kevan Miller were a great paring.

 

[bme44]

I know. I just don’t know how anyone could think Reilly or Zboril gives us a better playoff team than Grizz. I mean I do know because I read it here all the time. Because he’s wicked small.

What I am saying once again is I am not calling Reilly or Zboril better. I am saying Gryz and Reilly are both over paid. I just feel the (with out checking cap Friendly) the $3.687mil spent on Gryz could be far better used, if winning in the playoffs is the priority.

I feel a lot of people for whatever reason are very protective of #48. And IMO are not seeing the full picture when it comes to his contribution , and winning playoff games

 

[bearcountry17]

I am not not comfortable come playoffs with Clifton.................Gryz is a much better player..

To be fair at 5on5, Clifton is a +2 in 43 playoff games. Gryz is a -17 in 59 games. He's never been better than a -2 in any year. He was on the ice for 3 times more goals against then goals for vs the Canes last year while getting over 60% offensive zone starts and only averaging 14 minutes a night. That is not good. If he was bringing Krug-eque skills to the PP it would be one thing but that's not the case.

I would be fine if they moved on. We have a pretty damn good sample size of his game just not being up to snuff in the playoffs. He doesn't belong in the top 4 on a playoff team and I would rather have a guy that brings an edge and plays tough when the tough gets going like Cliffy and Forbot or even get an actual highly skilled offensive specialist like a Klingberg, Gostisbehere, Shattenkirk(all UFAs likely to be dealt at deadline) or whomever for the 3rd pair.

 

[LouJersey]

What I am saying once again is I am not calling Reilly or Zboril better. I am saying Gryz and Reilly are both over paid. I just feel the (with out checking cap Friendly) the $3.687mil spent on Gryz could be used far better if winning in the playoffs is the priority.

I feel a lot of people for whatever reason are very protective of #48. And IMO are not seeing the full picture when it comes to his contribution , and winning playoff games

Who was the last SC winning team that had a 5-9 defenseman in their top 4 ? (the wings had a guy 5-9 or so on the third pair vs the Pens, irc). I mean sad to say, but he is small. Doesn't make him bad. I still say you put him on the 3rd pair and take advantage of third lines in the playoffs, and I think he is a much better option that Zboril and Reilly because being bigger obvi doesn't make you better always.

To be fair at 5on5, Clifton is a +2 in 43 playoff games. Gryz is a -17 in 59 games. He's never been better than a -2 in any year. He was on the ice for 3 times more goals against then goals for vs the Canes last year while getting over 60% offensive zone starts and only averaging 14 minutes a night. That is not good. If he was bringing Krug-eque skills to the PP it would be one thing but that's not the case.

I would be fine if they moved on. We have a pretty damn good sample size of his game just not being up to snuff in the playoffs. He doesn't belong in the top 4 on a playoff team and I would rather have a guy that brings an edge and plays tough when the tough gets going like Cliffy and Forbot or even get an actual highly skilled offensive specialist like a Klingberg, Gostisbehere, Shattenkirk(all UFAs likely to be dealt at deadline) or whomever for the 3rd pair.

please don't bring up the fact that Gryz has been on the ice for 26 goals for in the playoffs and 47 goals against in the play-offs even strength in his career, those numbers mean nothing. The real stat is when he is on the ice, the team has more chances!

 

[s3antana5757]

Does Forbort potentially being out kick the cab down the road a bit?

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

Does Forbort potentially being out kick the cab down the road a bit?

add potentially Swayman to that....

 

[bruins19]

No, it doesn't clear that much. He has already spent time on the roster and would until a trade happens and that cap hit doesn't get removed after a trade.

And as I wrote in the article: it depends on whether the Bruins want to cover part or all of the Bergeron/Krejci/Swayman bonuses and how much they want to bank for trade deadline..

Thanks for the clarification, Dom.

 

[The Andrew Peeke Fan]

Clifton has been measurably and visibly better than Gryz in the poffs.

 

[22Brad Park]

Sweeney stole Lindholm maybe he can steal Wright from Kraken now

 

[DKH]

I am sorry for those that consider #48 a sacred cow as another poster described him. But moving him as a player that could possibly bring you a second in the up coming draft is still the move that , I would love too see the bruins make . They have and abundance of LD so why not move one that could give you a Return. Opposed to moving Reilly and having to add another player as a sweetener

He is not a player I feel comfortable with if you are trying to go for a long playoff run

I am sure you are a nice person who buys Girl Scout cookies outside of supermarkets on Saturday mornings (I get it if you skip the Boy Scouts I still don’t know what they are selling - looks like colored nachos, but put a can out and and I’ll throw in a dollar or two but not $5 for something I’m not even sure is digestible)

However trading Grzelcyk for a second round pick

I have so much stuff on my cable between HBO, Netflix, Hulu, Apple, Amazon - I gotta look and see if I’m watching the Bruins on an Alternate Universe App.

This Grzelcyk isn’t good at hockey clearly isn’t reality

Sweeney stole Lindholm maybe he can steal Wright from Kraken now

Huh? Sweeney steal nothing. The Hockey Stotk brought Lindholm.

 

[22Brad Park]

Who was the last SC winning team that had a 5-9 defenseman in their top 4 ? (the wings had a guy 5-9 or so on the third pair vs the Pens, irc). I mean sad to say, but he is small. Doesn't make him bad. I still say you put him on the 3rd pair and take advantage of third lines in the playoffs, and I think he is a much better option that Zboril and Reilly because being bigger obvi doesn't make you better always.


please don't bring up the fact that Gryz has been on the ice for 26 goals for in the playoffs and 47 goals against in the play-offs even strength in his career, those numbers mean nothing. The real stat is when he is on the ice, the team has more chances!

When forecheckers get on him you me and everyone hold our breathes he dont get hurt.Saw it tonite he got flattened there behind net to Ullmarks right and I was saying please get up .Great player in open space but in own end I get nervous.Nothing to do with skill just his size.I like big D men in playoff wars .

 

[Sevendust]

I’m not interested in making the Bruins worse on purpose this year.

Right. If you trade Gryz its for an upgrade or for an pick when the season is over. Anything else doesnt make sense

 

[Gee Wally]

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

I would start him tomorrow vs the RAGS

 

[DKH]

Right. If you trade Gryz its for an upgrade or for an pick when the season is over. Anything else doesnt make sense

Trading Grzelcyk is like the Patriots trading Kevin Faulk or James White because they aren’t Rahmandre Stephenson

 

[Dizzay]

The only moves I could see Boston making that are major (outside of becoming cap compliant)
1. RW for Bergy and Marchy- allowing Debrusk to slot in with Coyle and Zacha. The thought of having Patty Kane ride shotgun with Bergy and Marchy, then rolling out Hall-Krejci-Pasta is video game level sick. Can't see it happening but if he ever pulled a Hall and demanded Boston, you never know.
2. RW upgrade for Zacha-Coyle. Smith has been a ghost all season and I could see Boston trying to grab an upgrade there if they could dump Smith
3. Whether it be Lindholm-McAvoy and Gryz-Carlo or Gryz-McAvoy and Lindholm-Carlo, I could see the Bruins attempting to make a deal to upgrade on Gryz. Great player, thinks he gets overmatched in some playoff series that get rough and tougher.
4. Potential 4th line tough guy/13th forward

 

[Hookslide]

at almost four times the cap hit

The cap is a different issue

 

[Bumper]

Stralman’s $1 million dollar contract would be “plenty of relief?” How?

the amount that they're "over" is less than that.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

the amount that they're "over" is less than that.

It’s just under $1.2M. If you got rid of Stralman you need to replace him so very little relief.

 

[BruinDust]

Clifton was great in the playoffs las5 year. He’s been great this year.

Was also great in 2019 when they got a win away from a cup.

I always find it funny how so many ignore the fact this team won 15 playoff games with a 3rd pair that was mainly Gryz and Clifton.