Boston Bruins ‘22-‘23 Bruins roster and trade proposals discussions. II

[dredeye]

I think Gryz ends up being the move. Not going to get much PP time with McAvoy and Lindholm around and he's not really needed for PK duty (especially when Forbort is back) and likely fetches some kind of an asset in return, even if it's less than what he'd be worth under normal circumstances. Ideally it's Smith that goes, his production is the easiest to replace on the cheap from Providence, but i think they're reluctant to give up anything to move him.

Gryz --> 3rd

is a better outcome than

Smith + 3rd --> 5th

I’d have no issues with this. An extra pick this year would be very valuable for something expendable

 

[Lobster57]

I’d have no issues with this. An extra pick this year would be very valuable for something expendable

i'd prefer moving one or both of Smith and Reilly, Gryz is considerably more valuable than either, but i'm tired of having to give up draft capital to move salaries. So if Gryz can get an asset and Smith/Reilly cost one...

 

[wintersej]

If you want to move Gryz, list your pairings after the trade.

 

[Lobster57]

If you want to move Gryz, list your pairings after the trade.

I don't want to move Gryz at all, but somebody HAS to be moved and moving Gryz would add assets, while moving Reilly or Smith looks like it would cost assets, so it's something that needs to be considered.

And since you dema...errr...asked ever so politely...

Lindholm/Carlo
Zboril/McAvoy
Forbort/Clifton
Stralman

 

[wintersej]

I don't want to move Gryz at all, but somebody HAS to be moved and moving Gryz would add assets, while moving Reilly or Smith looks like it would cost assets, so it's something that needs to be considered.

And since you dema...errr...asked ever so politely...

Lindholm/Carlo
Zboril/McAvoy
Forbort/Clifton
Stralman

I like Zboril. But in a "one big last shot" season, I don't want him in my top four.

 

[bme44]

I don't want to move Gryz at all, but somebody HAS to be moved and moving Gryz would add assets, while moving Reilly or Smith looks like it would cost assets, so it's something that needs to be considered.

And since you dema...errr...asked ever so politely...

Lindholm/Carlo
Zboril/McAvoy
Forbort/Clifton
Stralman

I may switch Clifton and Carlo ,but what a well thought out post ! What I find is so many posters are far more concerned with protecting Gryz ,than excepting that moving him ,may be the best option for the Bruins

 

[RoccoF14]

I may switch Clifton and Carlo ,but what a well thought out post ! What I find is so many posters are far more concerned with protecting Gryz ,than excepting that moving him ,may be the best option for the Bruins

Depends on what your criteria is for “best option”. If your goal is to stockpile draft capital, then yeah, moving Grizz has some merit. However if your goal is to push for a Cup this season, moving Grizz and replacing him with Zboril in your top 4 is a step backward.

 

[dredeye]

i'd prefer moving one or both of Smith and Reilly, Gryz is considerably more valuable than either, but i'm tired of having to give up draft capital to move salaries. So if Gryz can get an asset and Smith/Reilly cost one...

Well of course but I don't want to throw away assets to do so. If we can get a seventh for Smith I'd be happy. There's clearly no market for Reilly

 

[The don godfather]

As much as I amazed I'm gonna say this do nothing. 15 and 2 is ridiculous.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

As much as I amazed I'm gonna say this do nothing. 15 and 2 is ridiculous.

Well we still need to make a move to be compliant when healthy.

So at minimum they will move salary, and that likely doesn't make them "better" short term, but as long as it doesn't make them noticeably worse.

 

[wintersej]

I’d rather trade Forbort than Gryz if moving Reilly is prohibitive.

Gryz McAvoy
Lindholm Clifton
Reilly Carlo

I know that you lose something on the PK. You probably end up having to play Clifton (leads team in PK TOI!) or McAvoy in their offside on PK2. But at 5 on 5 the pairing make so much more sense.

Now I’d rather move Smith or Reilly. But I’d move Forbort long before Gryz.

 

[The don godfather]

Well we still need to make a move to be compliant when healthy.

So at minimum they will move salary, and that likely doesn't make them "better" short term, but as long as it doesn't make them worse.

I'm scared to touch a masterpiece.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

I'm scared to touch a masterpiece.

Tampa, Vegas, Colorado will be a barometer, but team definitely should have people hopeful.

 

[The don godfather]

Tampa, Vegas, Colorado will be a barometer, but team definitely should have people hopeful.

Knowing donny hes gonna add on deadline. Hopefully he holds 1st round pick.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Knowing donny hes gonna add on deadline. Hopefully he holds 1st round pick.

It's possible, It sees unlikely he will be pursuing depth pieces, so if he makes a deal it would likely be an impact deal. Right now it would be very hard to see that, but of course things can change in 3.5 months.

That said, re the above, I can't see them moving a Gryz, because I think they like him more than me. And no way they give up someone they see in the top 4 on defense for a mid round pick.

 

[goldnblack]

Rumors of the Sens wanting EK back. That cap space may not be there for long...

 

[Gee Wally]

Rumors of the Sens wanting EK back. That cap space may not be there for long...

please provide source(s) when posting rumors.
Thanks!

 

[DominicT]

Billy Jaffe will probably be upset with me, but we talked about Gryz when the season started. Might get a sense of what management thinks

Sorry Billy but give your fans what they want

 

[Gee Wally]

Rumors of the Sens wanting EK back. That cap space may not be there for long...

please provide source(s) when posting rumors.
Thanks!

ok.
I found it.

 

[DominicT]

please provide source(s) when posting rumors.
Thanks!

Elliotte Friedman says there have been discussions between Sens and Sharks about a possible return to Ottawa. I don't have a link, but can vouch that he said it.

 

[Fenian24]

I’d rather trade Forbort than Gryz if moving Reilly is prohibitive.

Gryz McAvoy
Lindholm Clifton
Reilly Carlo

I know that you lose something on the PK. You probably end up having to play Clifton (leads team in PK TOI!) or McAvoy in their offside on PK2. But at 5 on 5 the pairing make so much more sense.

Now I’d rather move Smith or Reilly. But I’d move Forbort long before Gryz.

I move the guy who struggles in the playoffs when it gets more physical vs the guy who is bigger and more playoff ready. Ideally it's Smith or Reilly but Gryz nets a return without adding and is replaceable.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I may switch Clifton and Carlo ,but what a well thought out post ! What I find is so many posters are far more concerned with protecting Gryz ,than excepting that moving him ,may be the best option for the Bruins

So, Carlo/Forbort?

Forbort would be blocking 12 shots a night with the puck in their zone so much.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

please provide source(s) when posting rumors.
Thanks!

Here is the HF thread. It's a Twitter post from JeffMarek.

Friedman: - Sharks, Sens have talked about an Erik Karlsson reunion

 

[wintersej]

I move the guy who struggles in the playoffs when it gets more physical vs the guy who is bigger and more playoff ready. Ideally it's Smith or Reilly but Gryz nets a return without adding and is replaceable.

Playoff ready against who?

Carolina, New Jersey, Toronto, Florida, Pittsburgh, Rangers... there are a lot of "speed and skill" teams in the East this year that I think having Forbort and Carlo in your lineup at the same time would actually be a detriment in playing against. If you are playing the Islanders Forbort might be nice I guess?

The elephant in the room is obviously Tampa, who, like Boston, has the guys in their forward group to play a more grinding physical forecheck heavy game, but there are a LOT of playoff matchups where Gryz's deficiencies are a non-issue.

 

[sarge88]

Tampa, Vegas, Colorado will be a barometer, but team definitely should have people hopeful.

Come out of those three games with:

2 points - Fine
3 points - Nice
4 points - Great
5 points - Awesome
6 points - Amazing

I'm perfectly content with anything from Nice to Amazing!