Boston Bruins ‘22-‘23 Bruins roster and trade proposals discussions. II

[ON3M4N]

why are we even debating line combos for a trade that will never happen and with a coach who changes the lines daily?

Not sure I'd call it much of a debate honestly.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Per discussion yesterday, the Bruins press release on this one read “General Manager Don Sweeney announced…”

 

[DominicT]

This is why I brought up Foligno but others took me the wrong way..

I get the team wants him here but thought they’d understand if it was until the trade happened as a last resort.

If your saying what I think your saying, go back and look at my post before you asked about Foligno.

Anyone making over 1.125 million only saves 900k on the cap if waived and sent down. So along with Foligno you would have to do it with someone else to get cap compliant and then you have no room to call anyone yo for injury.

 

[UConn126]

Smith is clearly the next man to waive. Hopefully he has a better shot at getting claimed since he doesn't have the extra year attached.

 

[UConn126]

Why not just put Horvat with Coyle and DeBrusk? Why does the guy who signed a team friendly deal to return have to get the short end of the stick?

I don't think we have the cap space to extend both Horvat and Pasta. The cap is rumored to go up by 4mil, but we'll have 4.5mil in bonus carry over from Bergeron and Krejci, so it's effectively going down for us next year. Plus Swayman is up for a raise. Hopefully he signs a modest bridge deal. Clifton also do for a new contract, and he's definitely playing himself into a nice pay day right now.

 

[CellyHard]

I don't think we have the cap space to extend both Horvat and Pasta. The cap is rumored to go up by 4mil, but we'll have 4.5mil in bonus carry over from Bergeron and Krejci, so it's effectively going down for us next year. Plus Swayman is up for a raise. Hopefully he signs a modest bridge deal. Clifton also do for a new contract, and he's definitely playing himself into a nice pay day right now.

All the more reason to trade Smith and Reilly to mitigate as much as the bonus carry over as possible.

 

[SPLBRUIN]

I don't think we have the cap space to extend both Horvat and Pasta. The cap is rumored to go up by 4mil, but we'll have 4.5mil in bonus carry over from Bergeron and Krejci, so it's effectively going down for us next year. Plus Swayman is up for a raise. Hopefully he signs a modest bridge deal. Clifton also do for a new contract, and he's definitely playing himself into a nice pay day right now.

If Boston ever acquired Horvat you find a way to get him and Pastrnak extended. Ourside of McAvoy and Lindholm all other defenseman could be moved if necessary.

 

[shelbysdad]

So clearly a trade needs to happen to activate Forbort.....what happens if he gets healthy and we don't have space....surely he just can't stay on LTIR?

 

[Lobster57]

I think Gryz ends up being the move. Not going to get much PP time with McAvoy and Lindholm around and he's not really needed for PK duty (especially when Forbort is back) and likely fetches some kind of an asset in return, even if it's less than what he'd be worth under normal circumstances. Ideally it's Smith that goes, his production is the easiest to replace on the cheap from Providence, but i think they're reluctant to give up anything to move him.

Gryz --> 3rd

is a better outcome than

Smith + 3rd --> 5th

 

[DominicT]

So clearly a trade needs to happen to activate Forbort.....what happens if he gets healthy and we don't have space....surely he just can't stay on LTIR?

It's already answered

 

[PlayMakers]

Why not just put Horvat with Coyle and DeBrusk? Why does the guy who signed a team friendly deal to return have to get the short end of the stick?

Because he doesn't fit with Hall and Pasta.

 

[PlayMakers]

Why not put Horvat with Coyle and Zacha? Why move DeBrusk off of Bergeron and Marchand's line when the chemistry is clearly working there and he's playing probably the best hockey of his career?

DeBrusk has already been moved off that line.

 

[neelynugs]

I think Gryz ends up being the move. Not going to get much PP time with McAvoy and Lindholm around and he's not really needed for PK duty (especially when Forbort is back) and likely fetches some kind of an asset in return, even if it's less than what he'd be worth under normal circumstances. Ideally it's Smith that goes, his production is the easiest to replace on the cheap from Providence, but i think they're reluctant to give up anything to move him.

Gryz --> 3rd

is a better outcome than

Smith + 3rd --> 5th

you'd get more than a 3rd for gryz, but i don't see them trading him

 

[Lobster57]

you'd get more than a 3rd for gryz, but i don't see them trading him

would you get more for Gryz when all 31 other GMs know you HAVE to make a move? There aren't going to be many sweetheart deals out there

 

[BlackFrancis]

Because he doesn't fit with Hall and Pasta.

David Krejci's first eight games sees him go PPG, 0.5 PPG even strength. Pastrnak tallies 7 ES points in those 8 games. Hall matches Krejci's ES productivity, but he had broken ribs to start the season.

Gets either chopped in the brain or gets a rib or two cracked and comes back a week later.

Five games of poor production.

Obvious conclusion: doesn't fit with Hall and Pastrnak.

This place, sometimes, I swear.

 

[Dizzay]

Pasta takes over Foligno's cheques next season and comes in with a AAV of 10.4 million. Bergy and Krejci for the same amount I'd say for one more season. Freddy can replace Nosek at 4C.

Marchy-Bergy-Debrusk
Hall-Krejci-Pasta
XXXX-Coyle-Lysell
Greer-Frederic-Lauko

Gryz-McAvoy
Lindholm-Clifton
Forbort-Zboril

Ullmark-Swayman

Now for this season, Smith and Reilly traded/burried in Providence. I don't see a ton from Zacha that makes me want to re-sign him at this point. Do we trade him now and attach Reilly to him? At the draft, I 100% look to move Carlo. He should garner a 1st or 2nd rounder or a very solid prospect.

 

[Blowfish]

Smith is clearly the next man to waive. Hopefully he has a better shot at getting claimed since he doesn't have the extra year attached.

I might be the only one worried about waiving or trading Smith for poop? He's too good a player to simply toss away...Yes he's had limited ice time but this is more a function of preservation of asset,

 

[bme44]

I might be the only one worried about waiving or trading Smith for poop? He's too good a player to simply toss away...Yes he's had limited ice time but this is more a function of preservation of asset,

If not Smith after Reilly than who ?? The Bruins are in a tough situation and to become cap compliant someone has to go. That someone needs to have a cap hit in the 3mil range or larger . Moving out either Reilly or Smith is the best option, what you are going have to add to move either is the big concern

 

[Blowfish]

If not Smith after Reilly than who ?? The Bruins are in a tough situation and to become cap compliant someone has to go. That someone needs to have a cap hit in the 3mil range or larger .

I get it...

Buffalo is the ticket...they can take on Smith and Reilly...should the team find themselves out of playoff contention they can flip both players come playoff time/trade deadline. With another injured goalie they could use one of our many talented stockpile goaltenders....

Could be win win for both organizations...

 

[shelbysdad]

It's already answered

guess i missed it

 

[DominicT]

guess i missed it

Post 324. Just 9 posts before you asked

 

[Patdud]

Because he doesn't fit with Hall and Pasta.

Im going to guess hes playing with bruised ribs or a back injury. He could benefit from 10 days on IR tbh.

 

[Blowfish]

Im going to guess hes playing with bruised ribs or a back injury. He could benefit from 10 days on IR tbh.

I recall reading or hearing his back was taped up...that can't be good. I don't think he's been playing bad. Still looks great out there.

 

[TCB]

Can't see Krejci being happy with going from playing with Hall/Patrnak to DeBrusk/Coyle

I think if it improved his chances on winning another Cup he would be ok with it and that would greatly enhance their chances

 

[DominicT]

CapFriendly has updated.

I'm going by their number because they have $1 less than me that has to be moved.