Confirmed with Link: Zib Extension; 8 years, $8.5M per

[Lindberg Cheese]

Does anyone remember who we picked with that 2nd rounder we got from Ottawa in this trade? Too lazy to googles

 

[Ori]

this isn’t a terrible comtract. The term is too long, but the cap could get a huge boost in a few years.

I am really worried and agree with Larry Brooks. We end up with mediocre instead aiming for Jack Eichel who is 24 years old.
He is not Haaland kind of player in soccer - no NHL player will be close to his salary next summer, but that is not my point. He is not a world star player so I felt the contract length is too much only based on 1 main reason his injury history.

 

[Doctyl]

Does anyone remember who we picked with that 2nd rounder we got from Ottawa in this trade? Too lazy to googles

Brendan Smith

 

[JT Kreider]

The funny thing is I don’t believe that was the Rangers expectation. I think that was the fan expectation, or more specifically a decent percentage of the fans on here. I harken back to examples of fans expecting a Lexus when they’re really getting a Camry.

I think the Rangers more or less knew exactly what they were getting, and have more or less received what they expected.

If anything, the question internally was whether they actually had a top notch first pair RD in the system or whether they were looking at several options that were more ideally second pair guys or 1B types.

Fox emerging at the level he did was a pleasant surprise for the Rangers, but it existed somewhat independently of expectations for Trouba.

Trouba’s salary is about on par with what he brings and barring a complete collapse will continue to be nestled right in the range as other contracts come online. And his role, beyond powerplay time that is beyond his control, was pretty evident at the end of last season.

The biggest issue with Trouba was that the whole point of trading away McDonagh was not having to give him his new contract and then we just gave up the equivalent of what we got for Mac to WPG for Trouba and then signed the worse, and more expensive, player.

Sure, Trouba was coming off the best season is his career while McDonagh was on a hard decline, but the entire roster declined under AV.

Really the whole way Gorton handled the months between the Ottawa loss and The Letter made absolutely no sense.

Either McDonagh should have been traded right alongside Stepan and kick the rebuild off right then and there instead of delaying the inevitable, or keep the entire core but see what they can do under a different coach.

Mac is now playing the best hockey of his career with the AV stench fully off of him as is JT Miller.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Beautiful fantastic deal, now will they name him the Captain?

MSG was really spotlighting him the other night ….

 

[Brother Mouzone]

 

[jfc64]

Hometown discount

 

[AWall THE CLAW]

Yeah I was hoping for like 3x5 myself, I guess this will do.

7yrs/$21m would've been FAIR. Fire Drury

 

[Machinehead]

Just for the record, when I called Girardi an ECHL player, that was ironic. Same for Staal and Howden.

As for Tanner Glass, well...

 

[nyr2k2]

Does anyone remember who we picked with that 2nd rounder we got from Ottawa in this trade? Too lazy to googles

That pick was traded in the Brendan Smith deal and became Jonatan Berggren, who has a chance to be really good.

Jonatan Berggren Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

For the record, I don’t want to hear fans saying the rangers never get good deals.

This is another example.

I’m sure people will find a way to complain about the term but if he’s himself for 6 years it’s paid for itself with the Cap going up. This is a very manageable hit for a 1C. Especially given the comps out there

Barkov is off the table, Eichel was a huge risk this team did not have to take on at this point.

Good decision and great they got it done now. Zib and the team don’t need this lingering throughout the year

 

[nyr2k2]

I'm happy to see the idea of "worry about the back end of the deal at the back end of the deal" is an approach gaining steam with a lot of people. I think that's the way to go, and it's the right approach in a league with a cap that many teams are constantly up against. You gotta keep your guys when you can, and then the good teams will find a way to deal with the "bad years" when they actually come up.

Not that I think the Staal trade was some masterstroke in dealing, but it was at least a step in the right direction. It showed the team was starting to understand that there are ways, other than buyouts, to get rid of undesirable contracts.

 

[Overcast]

Haven't been keeping up with the thread - do we know about the NMC/NTC/whatever that's in his deal? I just saw on insta they posted Mika signing the papers and you can tell it's the yearly AAV on the far-left page. Just need someone to enhance that far-far-left text a little more.

 

[bleedblue94]

Has there been a breakdown of the contract reported yet?

 

[Machinehead]

I always believed that getting mad over contracts like Goodrow's is like telling somebody they're bankrupt because they go to Starbucks.

At the same time, you also have to pony up up to keep your top guys. You can't just replace them.

You have to avoid big hits in the middle. And at the risk of a Canadian man waiting for me outside my house, I think we did that with Buchnevich.

 

[Clown Fiesta]

Now give him the C.

 

[LokiDog]

Also, man is it hard being a fan of this team. It's one thing for other teams fans to constantly bag on us, but holy hell are our fans just as negative. Total killer inside the house vibes, wish we could all just be stoked for once. We have such a great team, we're spoiled.

So much this. Holy hell. If I could give 90% of our posters one gift it would be patience and perspective. The sky is always falling here. Yesterday we were putrid, this team stinks, never prepared, what is Gallant doing, etc. and then all of a sudden it’s the best game of the preseason, man what a team, never would have come together and pushed back like this under Quinn, we’re gonna be good this year! If we had some patience we could have skipped all the negative hyperbole from the first 15 minutes. Amazing, right?

 

[NYR Viper]

I’m pretty happy with this deal. $8.5m cap hit is a solid deal for a true 1C through his prime and a leader on the team. Happy to have the deal done to move on to other things.

 

[TheDirtyH]

I can't complain at 8.5. let's hope fox takes a big discount too

 

[duhmetreE]

I always believed that getting mad over contracts like Goodrow's is like telling somebody they're bankrupt because they go to Starbucks.

At the same time, you also have to pony up up to keep your top guys. You can't just replace them.

You have to avoid big hits in the middle. And at the risk of a Canadian man waiting for me outside my house, I think we did that with Buchnevich.

wat?

 

[NYR Viper]

wat?

I think he mans that the reason someone would be bankrupt has more to do with larger purchases/decisions than their morning Starbucks coffee. In saying that, Starbucks is a bad example because that shit is crazy expensive.

 

[haohmaru]

If we're being realistic about it, this is about as good as we could've hoped for. If you want a number one center, you have to pay for it.

 

[Ola]

The vast vast majority of players fall off a cliff in their mid 30's

Zibanejad is a good enough shooter that he might be productive as a goal scorer to some extent

I think paying him as a 1C but not elite 1C is about right. Fact is he has been an incredible goal scorer lately and huge offensive threat that the team needs as a 1C

Yeah, hard to not expect him to be more like over the hill Getzlaf those later years…

 

[Edge]

The biggest issue with Trouba was that the whole point of trading away McDonagh was not having to give him his new contract and then we just gave up the equivalent of what we got for Mac to WPG for Trouba and then signed the worse, and more expensive, player.

Sure, Trouba was coming off the best season is his career while McDonagh was on a hard decline, but the entire roster declined under AV.

Really the whole way Gorton handled the months between the Ottawa loss and The Letter made absolutely no sense.

Either McDonagh should have been traded right alongside Stepan and kick the rebuild off right then and there instead of delaying the inevitable, or keep the entire core but see what they can do under a different coach.

Mac is now playing the best hockey of his career with the AV stench fully off of him as is JT Miller.

Whoa, whoa whoa. Flag on the play. There’s a whole shitload of context missing here.

For starters, we gave Trouba a contract that started when he was 25 and carries him through 32. McD was looking at a contract that wouldn’t even begin until he was 30.

Mac is playing good hockey on a stacked team, in shortened seasons, coming off years in Tampa where the injury ghost was still looming it’s head. You wanna gamble on a full 82 game season with McD, let alone a now 32 year old McD (coincidentally the same age Trouba would be if actually sees the end of this contract as a Ranger)? I’m not crazy about that concept.

Beyond that, looking at this roster, are you willing to pay McD through 2026? I sure wasn’t and still wouldn’t. McD’s role and usage in Tampa doesn’t have a direct correlation to his role and usage here. That’s a key aspect to keep in mind.

Yeah we paid more, because we gave the term to a player who was 5 years younger. We aren’t paying for the ages of 33-37 in Trouba’s deal, we are paying for the ages of 25-32. That’s a huge aspect to note. And when we signed the deal we also knew it was on the front end of the next wave of contracts around the league. At best, he’s overpaid by a million right now, maybe slightly more. That gap will continue to shrink, depending on if one thinks it’s really even a thing.

As for the results, Trouba ranked somewhere in the 80th to 85th percentile for xGAR and WAR last season. As for the “eye test” of what happens without him, the less we say about his injury at the end of the season the better.

 

[Harbour Dog]

This is about as good as realistic hopes could have been.

And the best part is that we should hear way less talk about trading for He Who Shall Not Be Named.