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Burkeocet said:
He’s not a superstar and never will be. He’s a top 6 player with a ton of skill who likes to play flashy. He’ll peak at 80-90 points a couple of times as a one dimensional player. He’s a poor man’s Patrick Kane
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I wish my carrier peaked at poor man's Patrick Kane
 
I don't know, outside of seemingly being a jackass, his skills makes him a very enjoyable player to watch, exactly because he, pretty often, creates impressive plays out of nowhere.
 
Not a lot of players from the past 4 -5 draft score PPG regulary... Super star most or the Time start putting PPG at 20 years old and generational talent at 18-19
 
I think of him as a flashy topliner. Probably a point per game guy on a good team.

The league marketing the heck out of him is going to drive this sort of backlash because he's not a top 10 or 20 center in the game. You can maybe have that discussion about whether the league picked the right guy to focus on but that isn't really Zegras' fault either way.
 
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Feels like another reactionary thread

OP probably saw his team hump the Ducks the other day (like EVERYBODY does these days) and Zegras may or may not have been ''Unimpressive'' that game.

That was about the safest bet of a 2 goal blown lead the other day as soon as I saw the Ducks were up 2-0. And the idiots scored a go-ahead goal with like 5 minutes left in regulation, only to give it right back a minute later, which did nothing for them other than give them one more point than they should have gotten/should have wanted.

The Ducks are an embarrassment and 4 goals against is almost like a 1 goal against game for an average team. They're the easiest team to play against (as much as I hate that term ''Easy to play against'' but it's true in their case) and Eakins will probably never head coach in the NHL again after this. Blashill will get another head coaching job before him.

Zegras is often times overrated on here, especially when people think he's better than Jack Hughes, but I think this thread is way too reactionary. He's still the best player on the Ducks and it isn't even close.
 
Zegras is obviously skilled as hell. The question is whether he will mature and try to round out his game more. He seems to take a lot of dumb penalties and turn the puck over too much and not defend well. I expect he will improve in all those areas as the team gets better and he gets older. But yeah - he probably has been overrated because of the dazzle.
 
I get saying that he's been a bit "overhyped", in the sense that he was talked about in a lot of circles as up there with the best in the game, and he's clearly not there yet. But i'm plenty impressed with what he's done so far. The extra hype is naturally going to come, when you have such an exciting, creative young American player. He does the sort of things that get you on a highlight reel, and that makes him extremely "marketable" just like Patrick Kane. A guy like Matthews is a better young American player...but he's not nearly so "flashy" and he happens to play in the epitome of a Canadian market instead of a non-traditional landing spot.

I think we saw the same thing, to a maybe slightly lesser extent with Barzal bursting onto the scene. It's that same highlight reel ability to do inventive things and often do them at high speed.


That said...as much as i like Zegras, he does have some maturing to do, and i still have some reservations about whether he's truly going to be that "Cup Caliber Prototypical #1C". I think more likely he ends up in some sort of split with a "Bergeron type" to handle the heavy lifting a la the Bergeron/Krejci split for many years. Or he ends up shifting to the wing permanently. Or some other sort of "non-traditional" situation. But that's fine...he's still an extremely talented young player with a ton of upside. He's also giving Ducks fans something to enjoy, in a year that is otherwise pretty bleak. It's neat for them that they're going to Getzlaf to Zegras, who is basically the complete polar opposite as a player in every way.

I'd also say...i still think it's a real toss-up who the Ducks "best player" or most key cog is right now. I really think it might be Terry. But he's also older and in a situation that is a bit more traditional for his skillset and role, which all insulates him a little bit more.
 
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darkwingduck said:
As a ducks fan, the only entertainment we seem to get nowadays is Zegras exposing how stupid some of the values or traditions hockey fans or pundits have.
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Calling someone else's values and traditions "stupid" is, ironically, what the younger generations pretend to despise. Yet, they often do it with ease when the traditions are not in line with their specific values.
 
Bleedred said:
Feels like another reactionary thread

OP probably saw his team hump the Ducks the other day (like EVERYBODY does these days) and Zegras may or may not have been ''Unimpressive'' that game.

That was about the safest bet of a 2 goal blown lead the other day as soon as I saw the Ducks were up 2-0. And the idiots scored a go-ahead goal with like 5 minutes left in regulation, only to give it right back a minute later, which did nothing for them other than give them one more point than they should have gotten/should have wanted.

The Ducks are an embarrassment and 4 goals against is almost like a 1 goal against game for an average team. They're the easiest team to play against (as much as I hate that term ''Easy to play against'' but it's true in their case) and Eakins will probably never head coach in the NHL again after this. Blashill will get another head coaching job before him.

Zegras is often times overrated on here, especially when people think he's better than Jack Hughes, but I think this thread is way too reactionary. He's still the best player on the Ducks and it isn't even close.
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Nobody on the planet thinks that anymore. And anybody who ever thought that with confidence thought it before Jack broke out.

There's certainly arguments for Zegras being better than other guys drafted between 1 and 9 but everyone knows Hughes is the best player in his draft class.
 
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He's a good player. Maybe a little small to breakout into superstardom. Will be interested to see when he's in his prime.
 
dire wolf said:
He's nothing like Getzlaf. And I don't really recall people saying that about Getz either. Maybe I have a bad memory.
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I wouldnt say nothing. They both have/had elite puck handling and both prioritize playmaking over being the triggerman. The difference there is Getzlaf was more practical with his puck handling while Zegras is flashier and while Getzlaf had a harder shot, Zegras is more likely to shoot. Then obviously Getzlaf was a bigger body which let him play like a pseudo power forward.

And yes, for most, Getzlaf was pretty badly underappreciated playing in the Pacific time zone. And people didn't start considering him an elite talent until he hit close to 90 points for the first time. Which is another relevant point for this thread. Getzlaf didn't really break out until the 06-07 playoffs and the 07-08 season. So he didn't put up first line star numbers until his D+4 season and that was on a much much better Anaheim team. Zegras still has time to evolve his game. Particularly if Anaheim starts coming out of this rebuild with a proper coach executing actually competent systems at both ends of the ice.

Master P said:
What is with the hate for this kid? I just don't get it?

Did he skill it up against your team or something?
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He was mean to Troy Stecher and snubbed out more established players for the hallowed honor of being on the EANHL cover.

Oh and people dared to suggest that he might deserve to win the Calder.
 
As a Ducks fan, the kid frustrates me at times, mainly due to his inability to shut his trap and that he also makes a lot of boneheaded passes. But, get some more talent around him, mature a bit more (in all aspects) and I think he has the potential to be high end talent.
 
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