Rumor: Zadorov has rejected a 4.5m x 4/5 yr offer from Canucks, Both sides want to get a deal done asap

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Please make it to UFA…. Ducks are hoping to overpay and we need big Z to play with Mintyukov!

Can Minty play Right Side?

Zadorov isnt ideal on the RD.

Z would definitely be ideal in the lineup though to provide more space, freedom and protection for the likes of Gauthier, Zegras, Carlsson etc....
 

Uncle Scrooge

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If they give Zadorov what he wants, it's just going to be basically Myers 2.0

I get that he had a good playoff, but he's 29 yrs old and has never been more than a #4 defenseman. A chunk of his career he's spent as a #5.

If you want to be a contender and you have Zadorov in your top 4, he has to be the worst player of the 4, meaning the other 3 guys make or will eventually make more money.

Even if the cap is going up, to be able to afford a 6M #4 defenseman and ice one of the best teams in the League, the rest of your cap structure has to be perfect. A million or two might not seem like much, but it can make a big difference when you're trying to improve the team at the cap.

What the Canucks offered was completely fair and it's a shame Z's camp rejected it. But I get it. If he wants the big bucks he should explore FA.
 

Izzy Goodenough

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This is super hopeful because it means Zadorov will still accept whatever counter-offer his camp made before his stellar playoffs.

Great news and a bit surprising really.
 
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Can Minty play Right Side?

Zadorov isnt ideal on the RD.

Z would definitely be ideal in the lineup though to provide more space, freedom and protection for the likes of Gauthier, Zegras, Carlsson etc....
I’d like the ducks to go after Zadorov or Dillon, shoot maybe both but they are both LHDs. They can play on the right but isn’t ideal. Only Desharnais and Hakanpaa are righties but they might prefer to give a hometown discount playing on good teams.
 

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Zad is NOT a 6 mil a year player and I hope the Canucks walk from him if this is the demand he doesn’t budge from.
 

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Signing Zadorov and letting Hronek walk seems like a decision they'll regret for years

They haven't even seen him give up and start whining yet.
The two aren't the same.

If the Canucks decide to move on from Hronek, it's due to an excessive ask on his part. I agree they'd regret trading him, but anything over 8 mil would get a little too rich. I think alot would depend on what type of package they could get for him, and if they already had a line on a replacement for him.
 

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Signing Zadorov and letting Hronek walk seems like a decision they'll regret for years

They haven't even seen him give up and start whining yet.

We aren't letting Hronek walk. Worse case scenario, we take him to arbitration and trade him sometime in the off season or even at the TDL if it comes to that. He's a RFA, so we have full control on how that plays out.
 
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4.75 x 6 years seems fair.

He is a 4/5 physical defensemen.

He has that physicality a lot of teams will overpay for though.

4-5 Dman perhaps in a vague sense in the regular season.

but once it became playoff time, He was Mr everything....and played like a top pairing Dman.

His game is definitely suited for playoffs where cross checking, physical play etc gets allowed more.

Not sure how you can call him a #4/5 Dman in the playoffs when he played in almost all situations:

- penalty kill
-shutdown role 5 on 5
- He was even the extra man on the ice and net front presence when the Canucks pulled the goalie in the Nashville series for the miracle win.

Would be thrilled with anything 5.75 and under. Anything over will admittedly be an overpayment, but Z is the type of player you dont mind overpaying with what he can bring in a 7 game series.

Lets say he does make 6mil a year, overpayment sure...so what though, youre overpaying him by maybe 500k a year...big deal...thats not crippling at all.
Were not talking about Darnell Nurse money here where a team will be overpaying by 2-3 mil a year.
 
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4-5 Dman perhaps in a vague sense in the regular season.

but once it became playoff time, He was Mr everything....and played like a top pairing Dman.

His game is definitely suited for playoffs where cross checking, physical play etc gets allowed more.

Not sure how you can call him a #4/5 Dman in the playoffs when he played in almost all situations:

- penalty kill
-shutdown role 5 on 5
- He was even the extra man on the ice and net front presence when the Canucks pulled the goalie in the Nashville series for the miracle win.

Would be thrilled with anything 5.75 and under. Anything over will admittedly be an overpayment, but Z is the type of player you dont mind overpaying with what he can bring in a 7 game series.

1 million dollars Is a million that goes elsewhere. I'd rather try to tack on years then pay more.

Again he has that physicality people will pay for. In the end you gotta make it to the playoffs to play in them. So overpaying too many players can really harm a team.

If Lindholm is taking something in the 6s then Zadorov can be overpaid in the 5s.
 

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Where is the direct quote that says both sides want to get a deal done asap?



Most recent report: Both sides aren’t talking right now.
 
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Szechwan

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Tocc's system seemed to really fit him well and minimized the brain farts he was prone to previously. In this system I don't think he's a #5 anymore, he was extremely effective while logging heavy minutes down the stretch and in the playoffs for Vancouver. Anything under 5.25 is a good fit imo.
 

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4-5 Dman perhaps in a vague sense in the regular season.

but once it became playoff time, He was Mr everything....and played like a top pairing Dman.

His game is definitely suited for playoffs where cross checking, physical play etc gets allowed more.

Not sure how you can call him a #4/5 Dman in the playoffs when he played in almost all situations:

- penalty kill
-shutdown role 5 on 5
- He was even the extra man on the ice and net front presence when the Canucks pulled the goalie in the Nashville series for the miracle win.

Would be thrilled with anything 5.75 and under. Anything over will admittedly be an overpayment, but Z is the type of player you dont mind overpaying with what he can bring in a 7 game series.

Lets say he does make 6mil a year, overpayment sure...so what though, youre overpaying him by maybe 500k a year...big deal...thats not crippling at all.
Were not talking about Darnell Nurse money here where a team will be overpaying by 2-3 mil a year.
Until he ran out of steam in the back half of round two. Can't really blame him though, he wasn't getting a ton of support on the blueline, with Hughes not playing up to his usual standard in the playoffs and Vancouver's bottom pair being only slightly more useful than a pair of pylons.
 

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