Waived: Zadina (Clears) - Contract Terminated, Signs with SJS

[TheOtherOne]

I'm not exactly surprised or in disagreement, but what exactly changed since the brass and he agreed to that 3 year contract? Wasn't that like, less than a year ago?

 

[RRhoads]

I think confidence will help him a lot on the way. He seems to be second guessing himself a lot out there.

 

[Run the Jewels]

One more name added to the Busts and Disappointment All Star Team. Will Veleno be next in line?

Mantha - Athanasiou - Zadina
Svechnikov - Sheahan - Frk
Jurco - Järnkrok - Pulkkinen
Turgeon - Ferraro - Tvrdon
Natasiuk

Cholowski - Smith
Sproul - Ouellett
Almqvist - Bäckman

Mrazek
McCollum

Mrazek was a decent NHL'er particularly for a 5th rounder. Brendan Smith, Sheahan and Jarnkrok have played over 600 NHL games. Mantha will almost certainly hit 600. Let's try to do it with 1st and 2nd round picks who played less than 300 games. It's questionable whether Veleno or Zadina will hit 300. Just need 2 more forwards to create an entire starting lineup.

Svechnikov - Zadina - Jurco
Givani Smith - Veleno - Frk
Ferraro - Axelsson - Nastasiuk
Mastrosimone

Cholowski - Kindl
Oullet - Sproul
Tuomisto - McIsaac

McCollum

 

[norrisnick]

I'm not exactly surprised or in disagreement, but what exactly changed since the brass and he agreed to that 3 year contract? Wasn't that like, less than a year ago?

Yzerman signed half a dozen other forwards.

 

[Henkka]

Quinn Hughes had just put up 29 points in 37 games as a freshman playing an hour down the road where our scouts could view him as often as they'd like. But then Zadina had to "fall to us". I'm still salty about it.

You won't be after Quinn Hughes will walk for free to join his brothers.

That would piss everybody off at this point of the rebuild.

 

[1878rgw]

Svechnikov had a lot of bad luck with his injuries including a season without a single game.
I think Veleno will have a career as 3rd or 4th liner disapointing for his draft position not more.

 

[Henkka]

Svechnikov had a lot of bad luck with his injuries including a season without a single game.

Zadina has also had a big share of setbacks.

July, 2019 off-season injury
February, 2020, lower body injury
------ covid era, Zadina had bad covid
September 2020, finger injury
November 9th, 2022 - out for 6-8 weeks (lower body)
March 28th, 2023 - our for reminder of season (lower body)

He hardly ever had full seasons.

That kills development. Kind of another Svechnikov.

 

[GarlicbreadTB]

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

No way he cleared.

 

[Christien]

Yikes

 

[Run the Jewels]

He's gonna fill the nets of every team that passed on him through waivers.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

haha. i love it. Here’s to him coming to camp and making the team

 

[TheOctopusKid]

Maybe there was a reason this sure-fire Top 3 pick fell to us at six and we didn’t get the memo

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

@norrisnick Our boy is still a wing for now

 

[Run the Jewels]

Maybe there was a reason this sure-fire Top 3 pick fell to us at six and we didn’t get the memo

Ken Holland and Tyler Wright? No way.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Maybe there was a reason this sure-fire Top 3 pick fell to us at six and we didn’t get the memo

I thought he was going to be Kucherov. Last time I will be tricked by mock drafts.

 

[Oddbob]

Zadina is very coachable. Probably too coachable. He's "managed" the offense right out of his game. But he doesn't hesitate to engage in board battles and forecheck. He's not a heavy hitter, but he's certainly a hard worker.

Cleary knew he wasn't going to make it if he didn't drastically change the way he played. That takes a lot from a person to make that change, giving up what they hoped they would be (offensive player/star) to just to be an NHL player. I think it would be a tough ego thing to work around as a young kid and most probably wouldn't do it. Haven't really heard much about what Zadina is like off ice as far as work ethic and working out or working on things.

I still think he does a lot of little things right defensively that he could become decent at it if he went full bore to that change. That said, I think adding an extra step to his skating would help him a lot as he has trouble separating from defenders. His shot is what it is at this point, but better skating would maybe give him more space.

 

[PullHard]

Let's hope this is the push he needed and he comes to camp even more determined

 

[Oddbob]

When we drafted Zadina, we were fresh off a season in which our highest-scoring defensemen were Mike Green (33 points) and a 36 year old Kronwall (27 points).

Quinn Hughes had just put up 29 points in 37 games as a freshman playing an hour down the road where our scouts could view him as often as they'd like. But then Zadina had to "fall to us". I'm still salty about it.

You would still be salty. The rumours had the Wings very possibly picking Evan Bouchard if Zadina hadn't fallen to 6. I doubt Hughes was the pick, as there were no rumours of him being the pick here, other than the Michigan stuff, but didn't really seem like a Holland pick to me.

 

[norrisnick]

Cleary knew he wasn't going to make it if he didn't drastically change the way he played. That takes a lot from a person to make that change, giving up what they hoped they would be (offensive player/star) to just to be an NHL player. I think it would be a tough ego thing to work around as a young kid and most probably wouldn't do it. Haven't really heard much about what Zadina is like off ice as far as work ethic and working out or working on things.

I still think he does a lot of little things right defensively that he could become decent at it if he went full bore to that change. That said, I think adding an extra step to his skating would help him a lot as he has trouble separating from defenders. His shot is what it is at this point, but better skating would maybe give him more space.

Yup. The foundation is there. Just needs a good renovation.

This is as good a place as any to ask... Do the Wings have a sports psychologist on staff?

 

[Henkka]

Zadina was still quite good until the corona stoppage.

This is 2018 draft class scoring from 2018 before march 2020.

Since that, everything went south.

I also looked on his AHL stats for DY+1 and DY+2 seasons. On both seasons, he was best producing AHL-player of that draft class at AHL. Shooting pecentages 12% and 13% on those seasons.

Imo, he was going on right direction until the corona soppage.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

Cleary knew he wasn't going to make it if he didn't drastically change the way he played. That takes a lot from a person to make that change, giving up what they hoped they would be (offensive player/star) to just to be an NHL player. I think it would be a tough ego thing to work around as a young kid and most probably wouldn't do it. Haven't really heard much about what Zadina is like off ice as far as work ethic and working out or working on things.

I still think he does a lot of little things right defensively that he could become decent at it if he went full bore to that change. That said, I think adding an extra step to his skating would help him a lot as he has trouble separating from defenders. His shot is what it is at this point, but better skating would maybe give him more space.

the thing is if he did fully commit to being a role guy like you said. No matter how well he does in that role the fan base would still want him gone because he isn’t who we thought he’d be

 

[Oddbob]

the thing is if he did fully commit to being a role guy like you said. No matter how well he does in that role the fan base would still want him gone because he isn’t who we thought he’d be

Yeah agreed. It would probably have to come on a new team ala Cleary. Cleary didn't fully make the change until after leaving Chicago and Edmonton and coming to Detroit. I feel similar to Veleno. I think he either needs to improve his offence, or go full commit to becoming an aggressive PK type player.

 

[Ezekial]

Maybe there was a reason this sure-fire Top 3 pick fell to us at six and we didn’t get the memo

Brady Tkachuk was always the better prospect and Ottawa should've never been thought about in the "Fil the net" meme. Arizona and MTL f***ed us.

 

[Oddbob]

I'm not exactly surprised or in disagreement, but what exactly changed since the brass and he agreed to that 3 year contract? Wasn't that like, less than a year ago?

Filip through his agent asked for a trade in May or so is what Steve said. He tried to trade him to accommodate him and do him a favour which is also why he was put on waivers right now. Steve said he couldn't recall having put a player on waivers in July when it wasn't for buying the player out.