Waived: Zadina (Clears) - Contract Terminated, Signs with SJS

[26Mats]

We'll take Hoffman for the pick you got from Calgary.

Do you guys need LD prospects.?

We have two that are in a similar situation as Zadina: once highly touted, but haven't taken the next step: Nicholas Beaudin and Mattias Norlinder. The difference is they don't have the high salary Zadina has.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

While some of this may be true you can't dump this on Blashill. Wth was he supposed to do? Let him not be responsible defensively with the HOPE he will be a sniper and make up for it?

So basically a POOR man's version of AA? The guy is not as good as well all hoped for, period. He has had injuries yes, but he also has zero confidence and scoring touch. He needs a sports psychologist if his own abilities rely on an opinion of a coach. This is the NHL!! No excuses dude.

You earn your opportunities and ice time. He didn't, therefore he is a bust for sure in terms of the expectations. The last remaining question is can he even remain in the NHL and that is very much in jeopardy as well. No team claimed him! This is alarming for a young player! No one wanted to trade for him. Why is that? Blashill been gone dude....

Agreed. This is not Blashill "ruining" some young prospect.

I know many people bring up the sports psychologist angle but honestly from watching him, I don't see glimpses of anything special in his play at the NHL level for a psychologist to bring out. He's pretty good at carrying the puck through traffic for a young player but his biggest limitation from being a 200ft player is the 100ft on offense.

With Mantha you could see the guys obvious talent. It seemed more a lack of determination and consistency to be an everyday player in the NHL. With Zadina I don't really see any of that after almost 200 NHL games. To me his ceiling seems like a poor man's Filppula.

 

[norrisnick]

Do you guys need LD prospects.?

We have two that are in a similar situation as Zadina: once highly touted, but haven't taken the next step: Nicholas Beaudin and Mattias Norlinder. The difference is they don't have the high salary Zadina has.

Nope. We have 3-4 in the AHL that are probably ready for 3rd pairing ice time. Just no room.

 

[Gniwder]

I think Zadina makes for an interesting case study. I give full props to TZE for questioning from day one whether his offense would translate. He sticks out in my mind as the first Zadina bear. Personally, I think he can be better than what he has shown. He still manages to find some pretty good scoring opportunities, but even with a higher conversion rate he would still be a disappointment and at best a third liner. I don't see how he fits with this team moving forward.

A couple of observations:

1. He is limited athletically and it impacts his skating. He isn't explosive and he isn't very quick laterally. He has a very difficult time creating time and space with the puck as a result. He could hold onto the puck for days in Q with his above average puck skills. We probably should have questioned more whether he would be able to do the same at the NHL level given his other traits. Because he has below NHL average size, his brain needs to work overtime to compensate for the fact that his athleticism and skating are limiting. He needs to do more with the puck while having it less.

2. He just isn't that smart of a player, especially without the puck. He chases the play a ton and requires too much time with the puck once he gets it, to process everything that is going on around him and to make a decision about what to do with it. Perhaps if he was bigger this wouldn't be an issue. Perhaps the Q masked this issue more than people thought.

3. Next time some random poster makes some comment about how easy it is for a prospect to improve his skating or starts to rationalize skating weaknesses, think about Zadina. Explosiveness is king and it is very hard to find if you don't already have it.

Zadina is 6' 197lbs, average NHL forward is 6'1" 197 lbs. He's not undersized, just weak for his size and seems to have no stamina.

Both Joey and Zadina seem to have the same hockey IQ issue, but Joey is stronger and skates better. Not to mention he'll be cheaper, might as well keep him as the extra and not Zadina.

Out of the two, I'm actually more disappointed in Joey, because he has the tools to be an NHL player. Zadina never did. I had him as a bust during that COVID season when he got a full time role.

 

[DoMakc]

Zadina‘s buyout costs nothing, so no need to package picks or take a bad contract in return

 

[Henkka]

Zadina is 6' 197lbs, average NHL forward is 6'1" 197 lbs. He's not undersized, just weak for his size and seems to have no stamina.

Both Joey and Zadina seem to have the same hockey IQ issue, but Joey is stronger and skates better. Not to mention he'll be cheaper, might as well keep him as the extra and not Zadina.

Out of the two, I'm actually more disappointed in Joey, because he has the tools to be an NHL player. Zadina never did. I had him as a bust during that COVID season when he got a full time role.

Veleno is definitely stronger because he hasn't had as much injury setbacks as Zadina.

Interesting that you mention that "no stamina" for Zadina. Maybe he lost some ability from his lungs after having that hard covid.

Zadina is same story as Svechnikov. Had his issues, and injuries made everything just worse, when losing critical time for development.

 

[ShelbyZ]

Zadina‘s buyout costs nothing, so no need to package picks or take a bad contract in return

I would strongly bet that Zadina's contract doesn't continue after this coming season. His buyout next summer gives a $450k credit for 24/25 followed by a $455k cap hit for 25/26.

I could see some team in a cap crunch heading into next summer picking up Zadina so they can buy him out and get the cap credit for some extra space. Not sure what that brings back... Probably not much.

 

[Gniwder]

Veleno is definitely stronger because he hasn't had as much injury setbacks as Zadina.

Interesting that you mention that "no stamina" for Zadina. Maybe he lost some ability from his lungs after having that hard covid.

Zadina is same story as Svechnikov. Had his issues, and injuries made everything just worse, when losing critical time for development.

I wonder as well, he certainly looks worse now than his rookie season as far as skating endurance.

He actually looked decent when he came back from injury, 4 pts in 7 games and was involved on both ends of the ice. Then he disappeared. 3 points in last 14 games. I don't remember if his linemates changed.

Had he managed to sustain production at the end of the season he probably would have been picked up, but the inability to sustain that level of play was likely a red flag for any team looking at him. Most teams have better pro scouts than the Wings.



I just realized the pro scouts are:
- Maltby, a grinder
- Boyd Gordon a 4th line center who can't skate (former Cap)
- Chris, Stevie's brother
- Kyle MacKinnon, an AHL center

I think it's time to revamp that office, along with the NA amateur scouts

 

[taliababa]

Red Wings expected to put Filip Zadina on waivers to terminate his contract

The Red Wings are expected to place winger Filip Zadina on waivers for the purposes of terminating his contract on Thursday, making him a free agent.

www.sportsnet.ca

 

[Larkin2AA]

 

[Bench]

Boy, Zadina really wants a fresh start I suppose.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Red Wings expected to put Filip Zadina on waivers to terminate his contract

The Red Wings are expected to place winger Filip Zadina on waivers for the purposes of terminating his contract on Thursday, making him a free agent.

www.sportsnet.ca

He is an idiot. Take the money, you are barely in the league...

 

[Ricelund]

Wow, so he's willing to walk away from the contract? That seems insane.

I wonder if he has a KHL deal lined up.

 

[Gniwder]

Boy, Zadina really wants a fresh start I suppose.

Everyone here keeps saying he's got a confidence problem, sounds to me like it's the opposite and he's full of himself, lol. I think he's looking for a top 6 spot and PP time, and he's not gonna get it anywhere. Looking more and more like he's a headcase.

I think some team will pick him up for either one way league min or a two way contract. Something structured so that he can be buried in the AHL if he sucks again.

The best case scenario for him would be to play with Vrana.

He is an idiot. Take the money, you are barely in the league...

Yay, we agree on something ;P

 

[Bench]

Wow, so he's willing to walk away from the contract? That seems insane.

I wonder if he has a KHL deal lined up.

It does feel nuts.

Especially when Yzerman and the Wings seem totally fine to keep working with him for the next two years. Like sure, he'd have to earn every minute and is probably first in line to be scratched, but where else will that be different?

He can earn his $4 million bucks and keep grinding... or whatever the hell he thinks will happen away from Detroit, I suppose. Good luck, Zadina.

 

[saska sault]

Well see ya... I appreciate Yzerman having no problem cutting ties with players who don't fit the mold he wants, or won't work for something. Regardless of how talented you are, you are worthless (to a point) to him . Mantha, Vrana, Zadina ...

Does this mean it's a mutual termination or we have to buy him out and have cap implications ?

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Zadina saying he would not report if sent to the AHL.



If he's cool to cancel that contract it saves the Wings from having to buy him out I guess.

Bye Zadina!

 

[Ricelund]

Well see ya... I appreciate Yzerman having no problem cutting ties with players who don't fit the mold he wants, or won't work for something. Regardless of how talented you are, you are worthless (to a point) to him . Mantha, Vrana, Zadina ...

Does this mean it's a mutual termination or we have to buy him out and have cap implications ?

If he agrees to walk away from the deal, I don't believe there are any cap implications.

 

[Bench]

Does this mean it's a mutual termination or we have to buy him out and have cap implications ?

Failure to report would terminate the deal and he could become a UFA. Clean slate for all involved.

 

[SoupNazi]

It's insane to me to think that he believes he's going to do better than that deal, but to each his own, I guess.

 

[lidstromiscool]

Hope it works out for him. Seems like a good kid. I wonder what happened here to have him turning down $4 million to get a fresh start somewhere else. I don't think he's that far away from being an NHL regular.

 

[stillwater]

Pretty sure he knows he won't do better than that contract.

He just wants out.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

It's insane to me to think that he believes he's going to do better than that deal, but to each his own, I guess.

I don't know if he thinks that he will get a better deal, because that would be insane.

I assumed he's realized that contract is keeping him from getting a job on a different NHL team so he's starting from scratch. Which is slightly less crazy I guess?

 

[Henkka]

BOLD move from Zadina.

Can't nothing but respect him.

This is a favor for our organization.

I don't get this bashing about player being idiot. He does want a fair chance elsewhere and Yzerman did admit that he has failed with the change of scenery.

 

[Christien]

Meh, happy the Zadina era is over