I was under the impression he was horrible defensively based on his reputation. Not the case at all. He’s nothing special but he hasn’t really been a liability. His offense has been a boon though. He can pretty much do it all in that respect.
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I was under the impression he was horrible defensively based on his reputation. Not the case at all. He’s nothing special but he hasn’t really been a liability. His offense has been a boon though. He can pretty much do it all in that respect.
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You may wanna take a look at their defensive prospects. They are deeper, with more Grade A quality than anyone else. Watch Sweden during World Juniors, and you’ll see two of them, who aren’t even in North America yet. Then you have more than a handful of forwards to make significant impacts. Including many later round picks like Mazur, Soderblom, Savage and Lombardi.
Their system is loaded with 200+ Game prospects. Including monsters on the backend size/skill wise.
With their NHL roster performing like this, they get to actually develop their prospects. Even if only 4-5 of them hit, they’re gonna be very good for at least a decade.
Most teams would be ecstatic to have an Anton Johansson in their system. He’s not even in Detroit’s top 5 of defensive prospects and plays in the SHL every night at 19 years old. They’re loaded on the backend. Probably more than any team in recent memory.
They’re rated as having a top 3 -5 prospect pool by like every s counting service.
I guess the future of the NHL is in jeopardy if the Wings prospects are nothing special.
Detroit was a bubble playoff team until like a week before the trade deadline last season, where he (wisely) sold.
And yea, 5 years after Yzerman took over and a season in which they were historically bad, cleaning up Hollands mess with countless horrible contracts, zero prospect pool and continued losing of the draft lottery the Wings are a bubble team.
That’s with a top 3-5 prospect pool still on the way.
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Might wanna check again
I beg you not to post that roster. It gives me PTSD
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- LW DeBrincat, 20 games, 12+8=20 points, +7 (1.00 ppg, Top3 ES points/60))
- LD Gostisbehere, 19 games, 5+13=18 points (0.95 ppg)
- C Compher, 20 games, 4+13=17 points, +6 (0.85 ppg, Top3 ES points/60))
- RD Holl, 16 games, 0+3=3 points, +8 (team-leader)
- RW Sprong, 20 games, 5+8=13, +7 (0.65 ppg, Top3 ES points/60)
- G Lyon, 3 games, 2 wins .952 sv%
- G Reimer, 6 games, 2 wins .917 sv%
I would say: MONEY WELL SPENT.
- LD Gostisbehere, 19 games, 5+13=18 points (0.95 ppg)
- C Compher, 20 games, 4+13=17 points, +6 (0.85 ppg, Top3 ES points/60))
- RD Holl, 16 games, 0+3=3 points, +8 (team-leader)
- RW Sprong, 20 games, 5+8=13, +7 (0.65 ppg, Top3 ES points/60)
- G Lyon, 3 games, 2 wins .952 sv%
- G Reimer, 6 games, 2 wins .917 sv%
I would say: MONEY WELL SPENT.
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He's never been the defensive disaster people think he is. He's always been a competent defender, really good at some things in his own end but with a few noticeable weaknesses mostly related to the fact that he's not 6'1" 210 lbs. Offensively, he's a gem. By the end of the year he'll slot in as the 5th leading scorer for his draft class.
The Flyers just completely sabotaged him and the rest of the league still hasn't quite caught on how much of a player he really is.
Yeah, it's a crazy turn around from your 2nd best player being Anthony Mantha and your top prospects being Filip Zadina and Joe Veleno, ain't it?!
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this team might easily be a wildcard team,they play like a team ,coached well and yzerman is a winner.
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Ghostbear was pretty good for Carolina defensively...he surprisingly was kind of cold on offense though.
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Have to say this is a one of the rare good thread bumps. I wasn't impressed with the contracts - but some of the guys have looked a lot better than I thought they would. Hope the contacts age well, but they're off to a good start.
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It was always a popular myth, but it really took off when idiot Flyer fans were trying to rationalize Chuck Fletcher paying a 2nd to move Ghost to Arizona, just so he could trade a 1st and a 2nd to acquire Ristolainen, who actually is horrible defensively.
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Interesting...at one point (literally 2 days ago when you replied here), the bruins had two regulation losses on the season and allowed what almost 5 GA in those two games? Did I mention they were the wings who they lost too...both times? Get beat by boston? Probably, swept? IDK bout that one.
That person just wants us to have oesterle/hagg/lindstrom again. you know............the minimum salary defense we had before that gave up like 3+ GAA/game
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Yeah, Boston always do great in the first round.
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It's the elephant in the room that no one is saying and isn't a part of the thread because he wasn't a FA....that name is Petry.
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2.4 for defensive depth, they moved out a guy who wasn’t going to get much of a chance and they added a fourth.
Not seeing an elephant there. That’s a chance a lot of teams probably would’ve taken. The Canes would’ve done that if they didn’t have too many NHL dmen already. They’d probably swap out TDA for Petry right now.
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lmao. we only had two players at + level and they both played an accumulated 25 games...and were a total of +4. That's hilarious
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The last two games, he has played very well. The issue is, he makes the same bone headed mistakes that chiarot did last year (I am on chiarot's side now for the record, he has played very well this year imo). Petry also has a fantastic tendency to dump the puck in the neutral zone or ices the puck at least 3-4 times a game when he could have easily just reversed the puck back along the boards or held onto it or...passed to two of the open guys right in front of him.
I wasn't upset with the trade when it happened. Lindstrom was so bad and it was a total head scratcher that we re-signed him. I get the whole depth scenario, but we had edvinsson, aljo, etc to fill that void when needed, but petry had that veteran leadership we could use for those prospects to learn from and I'm all for that. The problem I have with him is what I said above and it kills our momentum right when we get it every time.
Stat watching is stat watching, I do it too. But when you physically watched him play the first 10 games or so, that taste won't leave because he has had a good two game stretch or his stats don't look terrible. The salary is negligible to me. At this point, Edvinsson would be a much better player to be in that pairing with chiarot and it would improve our defense at an alarming rate by just subtracting petry for ed.
Just as easy to dunk on the fact that Detroit is responsible for two of Boston's three regulation losses.
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Anyone who bets against Yzerman will always look like a fool. As this thread has proven. I like reading threads like these around the holidays... it's the gift that keeps on giving!
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C'mon, you must realize regular season head-to-head W/L record is meaningless come playoff time. Especially when we're talking about games played before December.
