Boston Bruins Your roster changes / proposals XI

[EverettMike]

the above deal for eichel may work if it's :
debrusk, coyle, gryzlyck, moore, & wagner for eichel
i would offer coyle as opposed to studnicka if i was bruins brass. (allows centre's to stay younger for the future )

This is an even worse offer. Good grief.

 

[EverettMike]

Imagine thinking John f***ing Moore and Chris f***ing Wagner could be part of a trade for Jack f***ing Eichel.

f***.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Imagine thinking John f***ing Moore and Chris f***ing Wagner could be part of a trade for Jack f***ing Eichel.

f***.

Sounds like you were watching the efin' Sox game.

 

[EverettMike]

Sounds like you were watching the efin' Sox game.

I'm a little f***ing worked up yeah!

LOL

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

This isn't even close. It's a whole bunch of dimes and nickels equalling 45 cents for a dollar.

I mean... Bruins usually accept that kinda deal for their young stars, and their young stars aren't even headed towards surgery nor cost 10 million dollars....

But that said, yea, ouch in all directions. That doesn't land Eichel, and Bruins have an absurdly ugly trade history.

 

[bbfan419]

Rask and Halak were a combined 9.2 cap hit

Ullmark and Swayman are a combined 5.9

I think the Bruins made the right choice here. They get a solid, in his prime goaltender who can help shelter the rookie and eventually share number 1 duties when Swayman starts to get more experienced, all the while saving on cap from the prior several years at the position.

Agree I like our goalie situation more now than last year.

 

[Gee Wally]

Great read and work by Dom.

 

[KrejciWinger]

Imagine thinking John f***ing Moore and Chris f***ing Wagner could be part of a trade for Jack f***ing Eichel.

f***.

I mean, they probably would be for cap reasons. But yes that also means two firsts, Lohrei, Studnicka, etc. which I don't think Sweeney is interested in.

I think the Eichel option ended when Pasta's no trade list came into effect, for better or worse.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Great read and work by Dom.

Interesting read for sure.

But, Honest question... Are we counting on this? Because if we are, I think aren't in a good spot.

If the Swayman/Ullmark combo is working well, why interrupt it? If they aren't doing well, maybe just ride the season out with a slightly better pick? Let's say Ullmark/Swayman has us solidly in a playoff spot. Why add Rask and send down Swayman when he's the future? We already sent him the message last year that he wasn't good enough to play over an injured Rask. We also just signed another goalie at 5M for 4 seasons. Not saying Swayman should just be handed the keys to the kingdom, but hypothetically, maybe he sees these moves and doesn't think the Bruins have faith in him.

As for Krejci, I like the idea of adding him if the team is in a contending position. If we are a wildcard spot or worse, I don't know if I see him as this magical piece thats gonna push us over the edge. He's been on the team for the past decade, and a better version was the only version of him to get us over that hump once. Expecting the 36 year old version of him to be the missing piece, I'm just not sold on. They need to figure out the long term solution, and that's either via trade or draft (and having a down year may help speed that up).

Anyways, I'm not against adding either of them. But at this stage of the team lifecycle, I'm worried they are too focused on the team they were than the team in front of them and the team they will be.

I think the worse thing that could happen is this team to be a middling team, with some sort of false aspirations that Krejci and Rask are going to come and save this team (a feat neither of them alone could do on (in my opinion) better Bruins teams.

Sorry for the rant, well written article, just have a lot of concerns for the direction of the team and potentially mediocre results. Mediocre is worse than being bad, you don't get a good draft position, and you still aren't good enough to win it.

Maybe they surprise and go above and beyond my expectations (which seem to be much lower than those advance stats that predict they will be 2nd in the division) and these moves will make sense. Otherwise, I think riding out the lifecycle of the team is a better move than hanging on for dear life to our 2011 core.

I definitely respect Dom's opinion on the matter, just concerned about the team direction if they choose to do this and they have the same results.

 

[bruins19]

Great read and work by Dom.

Excellent read. Great analysis of how the cap would work.

 

[UncleRico]

Interesting read for sure.

But, Honest question... Are we counting on this? Because if we are, I think aren't in a good spot.

If the Swayman/Ullmark combo is working well, why interrupt it? If they aren't doing well, maybe just ride the season out with a slightly better pick? Let's say Ullmark/Swayman has us solidly in a playoff spot. Why add Rask and send down Swayman when he's the future? We already sent him the message last year that he wasn't good enough to play over an injured Rask. We also just signed another goalie at 5M for 4 seasons. Not saying Swayman should just be handed the keys to the kingdom, but hypothetically, maybe he sees these moves and doesn't think the Bruins have faith in him.

As for Krejci, I like the idea of adding him if the team is in a contending position. If we are a wildcard spot or worse, I don't know if I see him as this magical piece thats gonna push us over the edge. He's been on the team for the past decade, and a better version was the only version of him to get us over that hump once. Expecting the 36 year old version of him to be the missing piece, I'm just not sold on. They need to figure out the long term solution, and that's either via trade or draft (and having a down year may help speed that up).

Anyways, I'm not against adding either of them. But at this stage of the team lifecycle, I'm worried they are too focused on the team they were than the team in front of them and the team they will be.

I think the worse thing that could happen is this team to be a middling team, with some sort of false aspirations that Krejci and Rask are going to come and save this team (a feat neither of them alone could do on (in my opinion) better Bruins teams.

Sorry for the rant, well written article, just have a lot of concerns for the direction of the team and potentially mediocre results. Mediocre is worse than being bad, you don't get a good draft position, and you still aren't good enough to win it.

Maybe they surprise and go above and beyond my expectations (which seem to be much lower than those advance stats that predict they will be 2nd in the division) and these moves will make sense. Otherwise, I think riding out the lifecycle of the team is a better move than hanging on for dear life to our 2011 core.

I definitely respect Dom's opinion on the matter, just concerned about the team direction if they choose to do this and they have the same results.

Unless an unexpected trade comes, the only chance the Bruins have to win is if they bring back krejci. Coyle isn’t a 2nd line center and well really no one else is either. So unless Coyle has a career years, foligno dials back the clock 6 years or studnicka randomly is the most improved player in the league. Then they probably don’t have a very good chance of winning and are probably a lower seeded playoff team that gets bounced in the first maybe second round.

 

[CellyHard]

What happens if Krejci doesn’t play in another league and just takes a couple extra months off? Would he still need to clear waivers?

If there is one player that could step right in, it’s Krejci.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Isn’t the whole point in Krejci leaving, that he’s playing somewhere else?

I can’t imagine either of these guys coming back to play for the Bruins this season.

 

[Clint Eastwood]

All this Krejci talk is like waking up every day hoping your ex calls you back.

It'll be okay! We'll get through this together everybody! Be strong.

 

[Sevendust]

Isn’t the whole point in Krejci leaving, that he’s playing somewhere else?

I can’t imagine either of these guys coming back to play for the Bruins this season.

Neither do I and it would be right to move on. They should look towards the future and get a center they can built around. The same with Rask. They just signed a goalie for 4 years and gave him trade protection. Then they have Swayman as the goalie of the future who should play in the NHL after what he has shown last season. Tuukka's time is over. The talk of leaving the door open is to not offend him after how he played with the Bruins. Maybe they sign him before the trade deadline but anything above this season doesnt make any sense.

 

[DominicT]

Isn’t the whole point in Krejci leaving, that he’s playing somewhere else?

I can’t imagine either of these guys coming back to play for the Bruins this season.

It wasn't meant to suggest anyone is coming back. It was meant to answer all he questions surrounding how they could possibly do it when it comes o the cap and waivers. That's what I tried to accomplish. Hope it helped at least one person understand because there is a lot of misinformation out there.

 

[Dizzay]

Imagine thinking John f***ing Moore and Chris f***ing Wagner could be part of a trade for Jack f***ing Eichel.

f***.

John Moore and Wagner are part of the deal to make it work cap wise.
I'm not sure what Eichel is worth, I took a shot, I've seen NHL trades for established stars a lot worse than what I proposed
I was looking at what a package might like look in terms of NHL ready talent (young) plus futures (Studnicka +1st rounder)
I honestly haven't been reading what rumor returns are for Eichel

 

[Gee Wally]

What happens if Krejci doesn’t play in another league and just takes a couple extra months off? Would he still need to clear waivers?

If there is one player that could step right in, it’s Krejci.

he then could step right back in. No waivers.

However he himself said he intends on playing for his home team in front of his family.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Unless an unexpected trade comes, the only chance the Bruins have to win is if they bring back krejci. Coyle isn’t a 2nd line center and well really no one else is either. So unless Coyle has a career years, foligno dials back the clock 6 years or studnicka randomly is the most improved player in the league. Then they probably don’t have a very good chance of winning and are probably a lower seeded playoff team that gets bounced in the first maybe second round.

Then hopefully that unexpected trade happens. Overpay if we have to.

My point is even with Krejci they already were a team that got bounced in the 2nd round the last two seasons... Why would that be different? The team needs to start officially finding his replacement, not hang onto the past, even if it means we suck.

I said I'm not against them doing it if they are in the 1 or 2 spot, but if they are a middling team, I don't see the point. Adding Krejci or Rask maybe gives them an extra playoff series (if that) and end of the day, probably 4-8 spots different draft position, but not enough to push them to the top again.

 

[KnightofBoston]

Rask had the chance to shut the door in 2019 and he did not.

I love Rask and appreciate everything he’s done, he’s come up huge in big moments to either give us a chance or help us get there, but when it came down to it, he just couldn’t bring that elite level he is capable of. The collapse in 2013, the loss in 2019, the end of season clunker cop out, the bail to Europe etc.


I’m sure he had valid reasons for the latter, and everyone gets sick, but looking at the entire body of work and evidence - it’s just time to move on.

 

[Oates2Neely]

2 years 10m for Rask seems odd. With Ullmark signed at 5m I just don’t see it happening. Unless Ullmark completely implodes (and he very well may as he’s never played 40 games in a season). I’d hate to go into 2022-23 season with 10m cap hit in goaltending with Rask & Ullmark (and Swayman in Providence). I feel it’s time to move on from Rask

 

[Gordoff]

All this Krejci talk is like waking up every day hoping your ex calls you back.

It'll be okay! We'll get through this together everybody! Be strong.

I never loved her anyway!

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Isn’t the whole point in Krejci leaving, that he’s playing somewhere else?

I can’t imagine either of these guys coming back to play for the Bruins this season.

I think the whole point is to live somewhere else. Not to visit the relatives while playing hockey and then come back.

Seems clear that (as it should be) family and country are bigger factors in Krejci's life than Hockey is at this time.

 

[Dr Hook]

I think the whole point is to live somewhere else. Not to visit the relatives while playing hockey and then come back.

Seems clear that (as it should be) family and country are bigger factors in Krejci's life than Hockey is at this time.

He wasn't really ambiguous about this, either. The only question seemed to be "when" rather than "if." I don't expect him to be back and no one else should, either. If he does by some strange confluence of circumstances make it back, then it will be like a bonus gift.

 

[The don godfather]

Rask had the chance to shut the door in 2019 and he did not.

I love Rask and appreciate everything he’s done, he’s come up huge in big moments to either give us a chance or help us get there, but when it came down to it, he just couldn’t bring that elite level he is capable of. The collapse in 2013, the loss in 2019, the end of season clunker cop out, the bail to Europe etc.


I’m sure he had valid reasons for the latter, and everyone gets sick, but looking at the entire body of work and evidence - it’s just time to move on.

That game 7 loss at home is the ultimate dagger. Cup in building and choke job. Kinda blame bruce should have put backes in game 7. Inspiration for the team to win it for him.