Boston Bruins Your roster changes / proposals XI

[FrankerC]

DeBum.....jesus is this your idea of a chirp? I feel a ton of second-hand embarrassment for you, lol.

No embarrassment here. Ready for that bum to be gone.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Granlund was just sitting there perfect replacement for dk only 29. Wanted him.

Nashville Predators: Setting Mikael Granlund's Benchmark This Season (predlines.com)

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Well he also had a 2.43 gaa and a .911 save percentage in 29 playoff games. Let's just wait and see what happens over the course of this season with him and Ullman. I am not disappointed with Ullman but 1.2 mil could have been used elsewhere.

Seems alright to pay 1.2 mil more to get a better goaltender.

 

[13Hockey]

bruins with the 2nd best odds to win the eastern conference

 

[The don godfather]

How do the Bruins land Eichel is my question?
1. NHL forward young asset-> Jake Debrusk 3.675 million
2. NHL dman young asset-> Matt Gryz 3.687 million
3. Semi ready NHL prospect-> Jack Studnicka 0.769
4. NHL 1st round draft pick 2022 or 2023, Buffalo gets to pick
5. Serviceable NHL dman-> John Moore 2.75 million
6. Serviceable NHL forward-> Chris Wagner 1.35 million

in return Jack Eichel at 20% retained (8 million per)

And a bottle of scotch with fried eggs so Adams signs that one.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

I would have taken Mrazek over Ullmark at 1.2 mil cheaper. Over his career Mrazek has a .910 sv pct and a 2.61 gaa over his career. And what did we do with the 3.3 in goaltender savings, sign some retreads.

This is assuming that Mrazek would agree to sign with the Bruins.

Mrazek over Ullmark? No way. Ullmark is clearly the better, and younger, goalie.

If Ullmark is even just above average, it’s a good contract. 5 AAV longish term for any sort of bonafide starter is as good as it gets in this league.

 

[Colt.45Orr]

Well he also had a 2.43 gaa and a .911 save percentage in 29 playoff games. Let's just wait and see what happens over the course of this season with him and Ullman. I am not disappointed with Ullman but 1.2 mil could have been used elsewhere.

You seem like you know lots about Ullman.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

No embarrassment here. Ready for that bum to be gone.

I am ready for him to be gone too but you’re also selling as low as his value would go if you trade him right now. It’s obviously to a different scale, but do we really need to learn the Tyler Seguin lesson all over again?

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I am ready for him to be gone too but you’re also selling as low as his value would go if you trade him right now. It’s obviously to a different scale, but do we really need to learn the Tyler Seguin lesson all over again?

Tyler Seguin? Dougie Hamilton? Reilly Smith? You'd think we'd be tired of the Bruins sending their young players all over the league to progress. Hell, some suggested trading Pastrnak this past season because he was in a rut and we've seen the McAvoy thread

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Tyler Seguin? Dougie Hamilton? Reilly Smith? You'd think we'd be tired of the Bruins sending their young players all over the league to progress. Hell, some suggested trading Pastrnak this past season because he was in a rut and we've seen the McAvoy thread

The Hamilton one would have been close to “acceptable” had they drafted smarter with that first rounder.

But yes, so many examples. I can’t stand DeBrusk at this point but I also want more than something like a third or fourth rounder for him and am willing to sacrifice my sanity to give it another go this year even if my expectations are at rock bottom.

 

[yazmybaby]

I see the division ending up this way:
TBay - are still top dog until someone knocks them off the top of the mountain. Their top 6 forwards are among the best in the NHL. Their bottom six took a big hit.
Florida - Bennett was a nice addition. I think they are lacking some veterans in the bottom six still. Driedger stood on his head last year, can Knight do the same? He only has 6 games of NHL experience, so he is a question mark. Their defence is worse this year, losing Yandle and Stralman. Ekblad is coming back from a terrible injury, has to be a question mark. Their time to win is now, Barkov is a UFA next year. I have them making the playoffs.
Leafs - The loss of Hyman and Anderson are a huge hit add McCann to the list as well, who I think is a better player vs Kerfoot. I see the Leafs grabbing a playoff spot. Their top 4 will carry them during the regular season as they can still score. Defense has very little depth. Having Holl/Dermott and Sandin as your 4/5/6 is weak.
Montreal - they had a great playoff run and over achieved last year. Losing Danault/Weber/Perry/Tatar will hurt them. Hoffman will add some scoring, but cannot play defense...I wonder how long he will last in Montreal? Price is coming off surgery, has to be a question mark. I have the Habs making the playoffs.
Sabres - will finish last again. Have to figure out the Ike issue ASAP, total rebuild is underway. They will be 3-4 years away from playoff contention.
Red Wings - made some adds with Leddy and Nedeljokovic. Stevie Y screwed the Caps in the Mantha deal and I see Vrana having a career season this year in the motor city. They will miss the playoffs.
Sens - they will be an exciting team in a few years. Pinto/Stutzle/Batherson/Norris/Formenton/Abramov/Tkachuk are all young skilled exciting players. Sanderson will be a good one on defense. I have them missing the playoffs and beating some of the top teams this season when points are at a premium.
Bruins - I have them making the playoffs. I see an improvement in goal with Swayze being an upgrade over Halak. Ullmark has been playing with one of the worst teams in the NHL, facing 1889 shots as a team last year. The B's allowed 1516 only...a huge difference. Ullmark's challenge will be changing his mental focus during the game and making 1-2 big saves when the game is close in the third period vs having to make 4-5 big saves last year. He has the size and his .917 SVPCT is really good and keeps improving each year. Our dee should benefit from having Rielly for a full season. Forbert vs Lauzon is a wash. JDB / Hall and CC must have big seasons for us to succeed. I see JDB back to his normal self and scoring 20 goals. Hall will replace DK on the first PP, no issues. Pencil him in for 25-45-70 pts. Pasty should be maning the point on the PP this year with Big Mac. Foligno/Haula/Nosek are all nice adds vs Kuraly/Ritchie and Kase. Foligno seems to have lost his offensive touch, scored 26 goals in 2016 vs 7 last year. We need him to pot 15 goals +++ which is doable. Haula will give us good minutes, can kill penalties and chip with 15-18 goals and 40 points. Nosek will be an upgrade vs Kuraly, who gave us no offense in the playoffs. I see Frederic's game improving as Butch instills more confidence in him this year playing full time. That leaves us with the DK replacement. I see the second line center as CC's job to lose and don't think he will. We do not need CC to score 70 pts and play first line PP minutes. Give him 15 mins a night, have him score 20 goals and 35 assists and play good dee and we will not miss DK.
My overall standings are:
Tbay
Bruins
Leafs
Florida
Montreal
Ottawa
Detroit
Buffalo

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

The Hamilton one would have been close to “acceptable” had they drafted smarter with that first rounder.

But yes, so many examples. I can’t stand DeBrusk at this point but I also want more than something like a third or fourth rounder for him and am willing to sacrifice my sanity to give it another go this year even if my expectations are at rock bottom.

I really think DeBrusk could bring back something decent if traded on his own. I’d prefer him in a package for a bigger piece but if Sam Bennett can return a future 2nd + a former 2nd rounder in 2020 I think JDB, who has been a more productive player in his career, can return something of value.

 

[analyser]

You seem like you know lots about Ullman.

Just like you and Mrazek.

 

[analyser]

Which 2C and 1LD UFAs did they miss out on?

We could of picked up Coleman, Granlund or Wennberg at center.
Oleksiak, McCabe or even Suter would have added more to the defense.

Point is we did not have to go out and throw this money around if no true value was available. Next year the crop of rfas will be much better and our hands will be pretty much tied with not much cap space.

 

[EverettMike]

Man, those Florida odds are pretty tasty.

 

[Smitty93]

How do the Bruins land Eichel is my question?
1. NHL forward young asset-> Jake Debrusk 3.675 million
2. NHL dman young asset-> Matt Gryz 3.687 million
3. Semi ready NHL prospect-> Jack Studnicka 0.769
4. NHL 1st round draft pick 2022 or 2023, Buffalo gets to pick
5. Serviceable NHL dman-> John Moore 2.75 million
6. Serviceable NHL forward-> Chris Wagner 1.35 million

in return Jack Eichel at 20% retained (8 million per)

Would you trade Pastrnak for that? No, right? So why would Buffalo take that deal?

 

[EverettMike]

How do the Bruins land Eichel is my question?
1. NHL forward young asset-> Jake Debrusk 3.675 million
2. NHL dman young asset-> Matt Gryz 3.687 million
3. Semi ready NHL prospect-> Jack Studnicka 0.769
4. NHL 1st round draft pick 2022 or 2023, Buffalo gets to pick
5. Serviceable NHL dman-> John Moore 2.75 million
6. Serviceable NHL forward-> Chris Wagner 1.35 million

in return Jack Eichel at 20% retained (8 million per)

This isn't even close. It's a whole bunch of dimes and nickels equalling 45 cents for a dollar.

 

[tonino2424]

This isn't even close. It's a whole bunch of dimes and nickels equalling 45 cents for a dollar.

Or as Dale use to say on his old talk show, five pennies for a shiny new nickel.

 

[Skelen]

I believe the money should have been spent on a 2c and a top LD which they are obviously missing. Spending most of the money on the bottom 6 will not put the team on top of the pack. We should not have to sign all these bottom 6 players if we had anything in the farm system.

There was no 2c or top LD available in this current pool of UFAs this summer. David Krejci was the best center available

 

[Skelen]

There was no 2c or top LD available in this current pool of UFAs this summer. David Krejci was the best center available

EDIT: my mistake, Granlund was available but chose to stay in Nashville and wasn't really an option for us. DK is still the best option there

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

We could of picked up Coleman, Granlund or Wennberg at center.
Oleksiak, McCabe or even Suter would have added more to the defense.

Point is we did not have to go out and throw this money around if no true value was available. Next year the crop of rfas will be much better and our hands will be pretty much tied with not much cap space.

The point is, you literally are going to bring up every other player and say you would have rather had them. You wanted Coleman and his contract? Seriously? Granlund @ 5M for 4 years is questionable at best. Wennberg? Seriously?

Oleksiak was acquired and signed by SEA before he even reached free agency. Even if he hit free agency, you really wanted to sign a guy like him to 5Y deal at 4.6M? Suter was a "pass hard as f***" candidate as it gets when you see the contract and the behind the scene rumors. The only guy I'll legitimately give you is Jake McCabe, who comes with injury issues so is a risk especially at the 4X4 he got.

It's kind of hilarious you're saying we should have signed different players; all of which came at contracts worse than the players we signed while not significantly upgrading on the players we brought in. Then in the same breath bitch about being tied up with no cap space. The guys you suggest all cost more.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

This isn't even close. It's a whole bunch of dimes and nickels equalling 45 cents for a dollar.

We traded Seguin for this type of deal

 

[analyser]

The point is, you literally are going to bring up every other player and say you would have rather had them. You wanted Coleman and his contract? Seriously? Granlund @ 5M for 4 years is questionable at best. Wennberg? Seriously?

Oleksiak was acquired and signed by SEA before he even reached free agency. Even if he hit free agency, you really wanted to sign a guy like him to 5Y deal at 4.6M? Suter was a "pass hard as f***" candidate as it gets when you see the contract and the behind the scene rumors. The only guy I'll legitimately give you is Jake McCabe, who comes with injury issues so is a risk especially at the 4X4 he got.

It's kind of hilarious you're saying we should have signed different players; all of which came at contracts worse than the players we signed while not significantly upgrading on the players we brought in. Then in the same breath bitch about being tied up with no cap space. The guys you suggest all cost more.

Really all I said is these guys are better than what we got and we should not have wasted the available cap space if you cannot fill our urgent needs. Do not just grab here and there so you can spend all your cap, did panic set in?

We have enough excess baggage already and nobody is knocking down the door to acquire these players.

 

[Riverfront]

the above deal for eichel may work if it's :
debrusk, coyle, gryzlyck, moore, & wagner for eichel
i would offer coyle as opposed to studnicka if i was bruins brass. (allows centre's to stay younger for the future )

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

the above deal for eichel may work if it's :
debrusk, coyle, gryzlyck, moore, & wagner for eichel
i would offer coyle as opposed to studnicka if i was bruins brass. (allows centre's to stay younger for the future )

This does not work. Thank you.