Boston Bruins Your roster changes / proposals XI

[The don godfather]

Since none of these players are gonna play and rot trade them to zona and you guys fill the return. Zona gets senyshyn zboril vaak and stud throw in jake if you wish. What's the return?

 

[Sevendust]

The Bruins have had a luxury with Krejci being the second lien center for his time here, it’s one of the primary reasons they’ve been able to stay competitive.

If you’ve got Bergeron at roughly 60-70 points a year, Dvorak at roughly 40-50 points a year, and Coyle at roughly 30-40 points a year you’ve still got good depth down the middle, especially when guys like Haula can step in to the role, as well as Foligno in a pinch.

Krejci is obviously gone, and there isn’t a true replacement out there, however if you change your outlook on the situation it might alter your perspective.

Krejci used to drive that line and carry (for the sake of argument) lesser talent than himself. Now it is Hall’s turn to do that. That’s a primary reason I believe they retained him.

This is just my perspective, I’m not necessarily saying you are wrong either just to be clear, I just think the plans have changed and a new direction is needed. I believe this is their approach to the situation.

I absolutely respect your perspective on the situation and this kind of view isnt wrong, the point for me why I would prefer to add a sure thing elite center is Bergeron. He is 36 years old and you dont know how long he will play and on what level. You kind of need a center who has the ability to take over the responsibilitys he has when he will be gone or his game declines. It will be difficult to trade/sign a center who has this ability but Dvorak surely does not and I dont like the approach of having centers playing above what they are capable of. I truly believe that you at least have one elite center in this league to seriously contend in this league. Vegas is a good example of a team with elite players but without an elite center and how it cost them in the playoffs.

 

[Sevendust]

he could still be a winger

Hall, Marchand, DeBrusk are already the left wingers. I would prefer to improve the middle in this lineup than to get and upgrade for the third line winger if you trade Jake. I dont think Dvorak ever played rw.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

I absolutely respect your perspective on the situation and this kind of view isnt wrong, the point for me why I would prefer to add a sure thing elite center is Bergeron. He is 36 years old and you dont know how long he will play and on what level. You kind of need a center who has the ability to take over the responsibilitys he has when he will be gone or his game declines. It will be difficult to trade/sign a center who has this ability but Dvorak surely does not and I dont like the approach of having centers playing above what they are capable of. I truly believe that you at least have one elite center in this league to seriously contend in this league. Vegas is a good example of a team with elite players but without an elite center and how it cost them in the playoffs.

In all honesty, without completely dumb luck, the only way to find elite centers are early in the draft. Or stock piling picks and hoping one sticks. Neither seems like the option, until we just plain suck on our own again.

 

[UConn126]

What’s the plan with Urho Vaakanainen? If Gryz Reilly and Forbort are the left side for the next three years (and Zboril) where does he even fit in?

If Dvorak comes in there is really no room for Studnicka in a top 9 role either

Including Debrusk, I don’t see how a deal can’t be done here..

Vaak will get plenty of time as an injury fill in. We dressed at least 13 different defensemen last season, so you can count on him getting in the line up. If he plays well enjoy to stay, they'll make room for him.

If we're getting Dvorak, Studnicka is almost definitely going the other way.

 

[Sevendust]

In all honesty, without completely dumb luck, the only way to find elite centers are early in the draft. Or stock piling picks and hoping one sticks. Neither seems like the option, until we just plain suck on our own again.

Absolutely, still have the chance to add via free agency but you have to overpay and this is something Bruins aren’t really willing to do in the past. Still I have high hopes for the 23' center free agency class. Possible that there is some talent available (MacKinnon, Larkin, Couturier). With the Panthers improving I dont think Barkov will be available in 22' free agency. He would have been great fit and just what the Bruins need.

 

[kdog82]

If Beecher + Debrusk isn’t enough to get Dvorak than just move on.

 

[Gordoff]

Krejci was saying back in 2014 he wanted to end his career in Czech and as of the 28th he was no longer under contract to the Bruins. Even if he was non-committal about his plans (unlikely), it's 110% on Sweeney for not being decisive. A GM can't let his whole process get hung up by a player who's not even under contract to the team. He moved decisively to replace Rask and should have done the same with Krejci, even if his intentions were unclear.

You're 100% correct. WWBD (What Would Belichik Do)

 

[Gordoff]

Hi All......signed up years ago here but never really posted. Always enjoyed reading everyone's posts over the years and love the information shared by Dom, Kirk, DKH, GeeWally and many others. Thanks for entertaining me over the years! I find I have way to much time on my hands these days so figured I may as well join the fray. I've seen a lot of chatter about Christian Dvorak lately. I admit I have not seen him play much.....does he move the needle for us? Is there another level for him to reach?

Welcome aboard, hang on for dear life and enjoy the choppy ride.

 

[SPV]

I’ll preface by saying that I’m in favor of Dvorak. But, if we’re trading for him, I’m moving Coyle

It’s either
Bergeron, Coyle, Haula
Bergeron, Dvorak, Coyle
Bergeron, Dvorak, Haula

I don’t like the idea of paying 5 and a half million for a third line center, so if it’s not the first option, I want it to be the third one

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

Hall, Marchand, DeBrusk are already the left wingers. I would prefer to improve the middle in this lineup than to get and upgrade for the third line winger if you trade Jake. I dont think Dvorak ever played rw.

Who is 2nd in NHL in LW depth after Bruins?

Marchand
Hall
DeBrusk

 

[UConn126]

Who is 2nd in NHL in LW depth after Bruins?

Marchand
Hall
DeBrusk

Ovi-Mantha-Sheary for Washington is pretty darn good.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

Ovi-Mantha-Sheary for Washington is pretty darn good.

Marchand is better than OV, I hate lazy Mantha and I take DeBrusk before Sheary.

Is that really #2?

 

[Gordoff]

I feel like Dvorak is inevitable. Feels very similar to Horton, like it was just a matter of time before they got him.

From what I have read 22 is suppose to be a deep draft, so give up a 23 1st. Something like Moore, Wagner, B+ prospect and 23 1st.

I prefer not to give up Studnicka. I still think he is going to be a really good one.

I thought that I read that '23 is deep too?

 

[UConn126]

Marchand is better than OV, I hate lazy Mantha and I take DeBrusk before Sheary.

Is that really #2?

Tryin to think. Rangers have Panarin-Kreider-Lafreniere, that's pretty strong. I think them or the Caps are #2. I agree I take our group over any other in the league.

 

[wintersej]

What smoke? You're just speculating. You're also giving Sweeney the benefit of the doubt at the expense of saying Krejci didn't tell him he was done until after free agency.

That's absurd. The fact our GM signed a bunch of free agents who can play center also totally refutes any benefit of the doubt Sweeney might get.

Your post makes no sense.

If Sweeney knew... he would want to bring in guys that can play center.

If Sweeney didn't know... he would want to bring in guys that can play center, but also wing if Krejci came back.

So why would him signing free agents that play center argue anything in either direction?

 

[UConn126]

I feel like Dvorak is inevitable. Feels very similar to Horton, like it was just a matter of time before they got him.

From what I have read 22 is suppose to be a deep draft, so give up a 23 1st. Something like Moore, Wagner, B+ prospect and 23 1st.

I prefer not to give up Studnicka. I still think he is going to be a really good one.

I don't share the same feeling. I think we're done, and I'm fine with that. Coyle will be the guy. Maybe we revisit Dvorak at the deadline, but I don't think Sweeney wants to trade futures given how weak out prospect pool is.

 

[The don godfather]

Yea

I don't share the same feeling. I think we're done, and I'm fine with that. Coyle will be the guy. Maybe we revisit Dvorak at the deadline, but I don't think Sweeney wants to trade futures given how weak out prospect pool is.

That's fine but play the kids stud vaak seny zboril. Their talents are withering away.

 

[EverettMike]

Your post makes no sense.

If Sweeney knew... he would want to bring in guys that can play center.

If Sweeney didn't know... he would want to bring in guys that can play center, but also wing if Krejci came back.

So why would him signing free agents that play center argue anything in either direction?

If you go back to the start of this you'll see what's going on. You might still disagree with me, but you'll understand what I was saying.

 

[UConn126]

Yea

That's fine but play the kids stud vaak seny zboril. Their talents are withering away.

The kids will play. We played 13+ d-men last year, there will be plenty of time for them to get on the ice and prove they belong in the lineup. Stud has the best chance, hoping Vaak has stepped up he looked pretty good for a few games last year, particularly the Tahoe game. Zboril has the tools. Seny needs to stay healthy.

 

[The don godfather]

The kids will play. We played 13+ d-men last year, there will be plenty of time for them to get on the ice and prove they belong in the lineup. Stud has the best chance, hoping Vaak has stepped up he looked pretty good for a few games last year, particularly the Tahoe game. Zboril has the tools. Seny needs to stay healthy.

No book it for me on this one.

 

[Greek_physique]

Marchand is better than OV, I hate lazy Mantha and I take DeBrusk before Sheary.

Is that really #2?

It's gotta be TB.

Kuch Killorn and Palat.

I'd add Jets too...Connor Ehlers and someone else

 

[Silva]

Marcus Johansson 1 year 1.5m for Seattle. Would've loved him in boston on that contract

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Marcus Johansson 1 year 1.5m for Seattle. Would've loved him in boston on that contract

Pass. He is not the same player when we acquired him.

 

[wintersej]

Pass. He is not the same player when we acquired him.

he isn’t but at Wagner prices… but if I was him I’d pick Seattle too for the guarantee of playing time