Boston Bruins Your roster changes / proposals XI

[EverettMike]

Mike, Where did you read or hear this plz?

First person to report it was Jim Murray on 98.5.

 

[tonino2424]

Hi All......signed up years ago here but never really posted. Always enjoyed reading everyone's posts over the years and love the information shared by Dom, Kirk, DKH, GeeWally and many others. Thanks for entertaining me over the years! I find I have way to much time on my hands these days so figured I may as well join the fray. I've seen a lot of chatter about Christian Dvorak lately. I admit I have not seen him play much.....does he move the needle for us? Is there another level for him to reach?

Welcome

 

[KOZ37]

Personally want nothing to do with Domi. He's not a game changer, just a big mouth.

Isn't Domi out for at least a good portion of this coming season anyways??

 

[KOZ37]

Welcome aboard!

Thank you kindly sir!

 

[KOZ37]

Welcome

Thank you for the warm welcome.

 

[GloveSave1]

I’ve shifted my focus to trying to move mountains to improve the D. Coyle it is. It’s a “large” risk, but sometimes you have to accept those. He’s “healthy” now…we’ll see.

 

[Buck Smith]

Gudbranson is still available. Would round up the RD pretty well while adding size and pk ability

How is that even possible... he ought to have been off the table instantly! Cost???

 

[kdog82]

The knock against Dvorak is he is a Lefty. Hall mentioned he benefited from Krejci being a righty. Thomas Hertl, another possibility, also shoots left.

C. Smith is a righty and listed as a center. Not sure just how effective he is in that position. Be he could be 'toggled' into a C in certain situations.

Hall played with Dvorak in Arizona and had very good chemistry.

 

[The don godfather]

You told me to "book it" with Studnicka roughly 4,000 times. So I bet my house on him being the second line center. Really hope you're not already wavering!

Hey I like to do some comedy. This Coyle idea with hall makes me puke.

 

[slim399]

I feel like Dvorak is inevitable. Feels very similar to Horton, like it was just a matter of time before they got him.

From what I have read 22 is suppose to be a deep draft, so give up a 23 1st. Something like Moore, Wagner, B+ prospect and 23 1st.

I prefer not to give up Studnicka. I still think he is going to be a really good one.

 

[NeelyDan]

What has Krejci said that indicates he's wavering? All reports also said he told the Bruins two weeks before free agency.

And he has been talking about doing this since the day he signed his contract. He also reiterated that this was his plan multiple times over the years.

I guess I'm giving DS the benefit of the doubt here, with a little 'where there's smoke, there's fire' for good measure. If it IS just spin by our GM, that is so far over the line I can't even begin to express - because it's nothing short of exploitation.

 

[bbfan419]

I feel like Dvorak is inevitable. Feels very similar to Horton, like it was just a matter of time before they got him.

From what I have read 22 is suppose to be a deep draft, so give up a 23 1st. Something like Moore, Wagner, B+ prospect and 23 1st.

I prefer not to give up Studnicka. I still think he is going to be a really good one.

Not giving up any 1st at all, yes 2022 is a deep draft and 2023 is supposed to be as good or better. I would offer DeBrusk + Wagner + Beecher.

 

[chizzler]

I generally like Sweeney, but one thing about him that I don't like is that he is a master at that bullshit corporate-speak style where he says a lot without saying much of anything, and leaves himself a ton of wiggle room so he can't be pinned down. Maybe it's smart politics/media-handling, but it's so transparent and frustrating. I just tend to ignore what he says and wait and see what actually happens. As for the Dk thing, as you said, who knows what really was discussed and Sweeney isn't giving anything away. For my part, I am considering Krejci gone to the next chapter of his life and moving on from it.

As far as him not telling the public anything, I applaud. Never show your cards.

 

[Caper Bruins fan]

I’ve shifted my focus to trying to move mountains to improve the D. Coyle it is. It’s a “large” risk, but sometimes you have to accept those. He’s “healthy” now…we’ll see.

Yeah , I guess the concern is that he has been so inconsistent with the Bruins and from what I’ve heard when he was in Minnesota. If we get the guy we saw in the 2019 playoffs, that’s fine and I think Hall and Smith are an upgrade over Heinen and Johannson but it does feel like the Bruins need another center . Maybe not a legit 2nd line center but someone who might have the capability of being one if Coyle and others can’t get it done .

 

[Sevendust]

I feel like Dvorak is inevitable. Feels very similar to Horton, like it was just a matter of time before they got him.

From what I have read 22 is suppose to be a deep draft, so give up a 23 1st. Something like Moore, Wagner, B+ prospect and 23 1st.

I prefer not to give up Studnicka. I still think he is going to be a really good one.

If you add Dvorak to be a center there isnt really a place on this team anymore for Studnicka. Bergeron, Dvorak, Coyle, Nosek/Frederic. So if you go for Dvorak, Studnicka will be one of the pieces to get him. Personally Dvorak doesnt move the needle for me. Especially with the rumoured price, I would trade for an sure upgrade not a center you hope he suddenly improves and is a top 6 center. Dvorak is another Coyle for me.

 

[EverettMike]

I guess I'm giving DS the benefit of the doubt here, with a little 'where there's smoke, there's fire' for good measure. If it IS just spin by our GM, that is so far over the line I can't even begin to express - because it's nothing short of exploitation.

What smoke? You're just speculating. You're also giving Sweeney the benefit of the doubt at the expense of saying Krejci didn't tell him he was done until after free agency.

That's absurd. The fact our GM signed a bunch of free agents who can play center also totally refutes any benefit of the doubt Sweeney might get.

 

[DiggityDog]

If you add Dvorak to be a center there isnt really a place on this team anymore for Studnicka. Bergeron, Dvorak, Coyle, Nosek/Frederic. So if you go for Dvorak, Studnicka will be one of the pieces to get him. Personally Dvorak doesnt move the needle for me. Especially with the rumoured price, I would trade for an sure upgrade not a center you hope he suddenly improves and is a top 6 center. Dvorak is another Coyle for me.

The Bruins have had a luxury with Krejci being the second lien center for his time here, it’s one of the primary reasons they’ve been able to stay competitive.

If you’ve got Bergeron at roughly 60-70 points a year, Dvorak at roughly 40-50 points a year, and Coyle at roughly 30-40 points a year you’ve still got good depth down the middle, especially when guys like Haula can step in to the role, as well as Foligno in a pinch.

Krejci is obviously gone, and there isn’t a true replacement out there, however if you change your outlook on the situation it might alter your perspective.

Krejci used to drive that line and carry (for the sake of argument) lesser talent than himself. Now it is Hall’s turn to do that. That’s a primary reason I believe they retained him.

This is just my perspective, I’m not necessarily saying you are wrong either just to be clear, I just think the plans have changed and a new direction is needed. I believe this is their approach to the situation.

 

[NeelyDan]

What smoke? You're just speculating. You're also giving Sweeney the benefit of the doubt at the expense of saying Krejci didn't tell him he was done until after free agency.

That's absurd. The fact our GM signed a bunch of free agents who can play center also totally refutes any benefit of the doubt Sweeney might get.

Roger that, EverettMike.

 

[sarge88]

Hey I like to do some comedy. This Coyle idea with hall makes me puke.

Fully understand this but I keep needing to remind myself that Hall is a playmaker first and goal scorer second.

So given that, when I think of line 2, I look at it this way….

Hall will be responsible for setting up Coyle and Smith, instead of Krejci setting up Hall and Smith.

It’s all I’ve got right now.

 

[Bearcrap]

If you add Dvorak to be a center there isnt really a place on this team anymore for Studnicka. Bergeron, Dvorak, Coyle, Nosek/Frederic. So if you go for Dvorak, Studnicka will be one of the pieces to get him. Personally Dvorak doesnt move the needle for me. Especially with the rumoured price, I would trade for an sure upgrade not a center you hope he suddenly improves and is a top 6 center. Dvorak is another Coyle for me.

he could still be a winger

 

[JerseyBruin]

What smoke? You're just speculating. You're also giving Sweeney the benefit of the doubt at the expense of saying Krejci didn't tell him he was done until after free agency.

That's absurd. The fact our GM signed a bunch of free agents who can play center also totally refutes any benefit of the doubt Sweeney might get.

But even if Krejci told him two weeks before, it handcuffs him from being able to negotiate deals . Not knowing A) if they needed to fill the slot and B) not knowing how much money he had to work with. Im sure he had the free agency options ready in case .

 

[CellyHard]

What’s the plan with Urho Vaakanainen? If Gryz Reilly and Forbort are the left side for the next three years (and Zboril) where does he even fit in?

If Dvorak comes in there is really no room for Studnicka in a top 9 role either

Including Debrusk, I don’t see how a deal can’t be done here..

 

[The don godfather]

Fully understand this but I keep needing to remind myself that Hall is a playmaker first and goal scorer second.

So given that, when I think of line 2, I look at it this way….

Hall will be responsible for setting up Coyle and Smith, instead of Krejci setting up Hall and Smith.

It’s all I’ve got right now.

Pay zona price and get his butt in here. Anyone know what that sly BA wants ?

 

[Bodit9]

If you add Dvorak to be a center there isnt really a place on this team anymore for Studnicka. Bergeron, Dvorak, Coyle, Nosek/Frederic. So if you go for Dvorak, Studnicka will be one of the pieces to get him. Personally Dvorak doesnt move the needle for me. Especially with the rumoured price, I would trade for an sure upgrade not a center you hope he suddenly improves and is a top 6 center. Dvorak is another Coyle for me.

Guess we have different opinions on Dvorak. ~0.55 ppg C that is 25 years old on a good contract for 4 more years. Stud, who has potential, but not quite ready, is the trade-off. I absolutely would trade Stud+JDB for that.

 

[Montecristo]

Guess we have different opinions on Dvorak. ~0.55 ppg C that is 25 years old on a good contract for 4 more years. Stud, who has potential, but not quite ready, is the trade-off. I absolutely would trade Stud+JDB for that.

hes only .35 ppg when you take away the powerplay time he wont have here in boston. Thats a 30 point season. Thats a 3rd liner