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GDT: Your New Jersey Devils (50-21-8, 108 Points, 2nd in Metro) @ Boston Bruins (61-12-5, 127 Points, 1st in Atlantic), 8 PM, ABC/ESPN+

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Bleedred said:
I don’t think he has the technique.

His pro career has been a massive disappointment. That 19-20 season is looking more and like a random happening, much like the Andrew Hammond 15-16 season, which was never to be duplicated.

His AHL career prior to even making his NHL debut was also glaringly bad and too hard to ignore. It was heavy foreshadowing towhat he’s been the last 3 years in the NHL.

Everybody we’ve had the last 10-12 years had pretty much better AHL careers than he did. I’m talking Kinkaid, as well as both Daws and Schmid. And these were happening on teams where superstars like Ken Appleby were somehow playing considerably better.

Wedgewood’s first several years in the AHL were pretty bad though, but what’s he become? He’s gonna be 31 years old before the start of next season and has yet to even play 100 NHL games.

I don’t think he’s gonna be a good NHL goalie ever, but he may have another good season in the NHL at some point. Since he’s not 30 years and has had success in the league in a starting role at one point, he’ll get a few more chances and he likely still has a few more years worth of chances in the league before washing out. And for every good season he has, it may buy him another or two longer in the league beyond those few years he already probably will get anyway.
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Nope, he doesn't at all. But goalies are voodoo, who the f*** knows if he goes elsewhere and becomes great? Would it shock me? No. Would I expect it? Absolutely not since it hasn't happened by now.
 
Why is that asshat dragging our TV anchors into this? Did they actually say something or is it just the usual making shit up on Twitter thing?
 
RNCDevil said:
Bruins played a solid game.

When they stick check, they are looking to break a hand. When the forecheck, they are looking to drive you through the boards. When they crease clear, they are looking to paralyze. It's a top-to-bottom mentality on the details.

Good playoff game. Rangers, Canes, Bruins, Devils...Really going to be an amazing playoffs.
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Right. And we are going to have to adjust to a different style of game. And to the fact that the refs are going to let a lot of stuff go.

This was a good learning game. We will need to pick up the intensity and determination. And not get down 2 goals in the first half a period. Against top clubs it’s hard to come back from that.
 
RememberTheName said:
Against a team like Boston where there were basically no passing lanes open the entire game in the offensive zone, I feel like we gotta fire more low shots on net and do a better job of crashing for rebounds. They are too good defensively to be able to pass around the perimeter the whole game waiting for something to open up, because it won't and didn't and we ended up turning the puck over more times than we should have.
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Which is again why I don't get why people want the Isles round 1 over the Rags besides the winning the division stuff. The Rags will play way more wide open + arguably the worse goalie this year. I trust us in a back and forth game way more than a game where we have to be opportunistic.
 
ZachaFlockaFlame said:
Nope, he doesn't at all. But goalies are voodoo, who the f*** knows if he goes elsewhere and becomes great? Would it shock me? No. Would I expect it? Absolutely not since it hasn't happened by now.
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I don't believe in the goalies are voodoo thing, at least not in the sense that I think you may.

The goalies are voodoo thing to me is something like Andersen, Bobrovsky and Quick all having up years last season after multiple consecutive decline (about 3 of them for Quick) and then here they are, back to what they are this year.

Andrew Hammond's 15-16 is goalies are voodoo.

Alex Lyon right now this very moment is another goalies are voodoo.

Keith Kinkaid's 17-18 or at least the last 2 months of it are goalies are voodoo

As we see, these things don't last.

The voodoo is probably Blackwood's 19-20 and to a lesser extent 18-19 seasons here (because he wasn't used as much or as the starter) after two poor AHL years and a meh rookie AHL year before that. And those seasons also were followed up with 3 consecutive bad seasons in the NHL on par with his AHL seasons before he debuted in the league.

If he becomes great, it's more than likely either as a backup or on a team that's really gonna shelter him. Devan Dubnyk's NHL career lasted way longer than it should have thanks to Minnesota. He was never particularly good there, outside of his first year there, but if you're just looking at his stats the 3 or 4 years after that, he was pretty good there.

They also revived Alex Stalock.

They also made Kahkonen look like he may be an NHL caliber goalie, but he ain't looking like one on San Jose.

Vegas has been making an ECHL goalie in Logan Thompson look like an all star. Like, he literally went to the all star game this year.
 
Emperoreddy said:
wonder who they sit for Luke on tuesday.
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If McLeod isn’t playing, and I assume he isn’t, then you might go 11/7. Rest the defenseman that is most banged up and play Smith and Hughes. Smith can mix in at forward of the game is going well.
 
Bleedred said:
I don’t think he has the technique.

His pro career has been a massive disappointment. That 19-20 season is looking more and like a random happening, much like the Andrew Hammond 15-16 season, which was never to be duplicated.

His AHL career prior to even making his NHL debut was also glaringly bad and too hard to ignore. It was heavy foreshadowing towhat he’s been the last 3 years in the NHL.

Everybody we’ve had the last 10-12 years had pretty much better AHL careers than he did. I’m talking Kinkaid, as well as both Daws and Schmid. And these were happening on teams where superstars like Ken Appleby were somehow playing considerably better.

Wedgewood’s first several years in the AHL were pretty bad though, but what’s he become? He’s gonna be 31 years old before the start of next season and has yet to even play 100 NHL games.

I don’t think he’s gonna be a good NHL goalie ever, but he may have another good season in the NHL at some point. Since he’s not 30 years and has had success in the league in a starting role at one point, he’ll get a few more chances and he likely still has a few more years worth of chances in the league before washing out. And for every good season he has, it may buy him another or two longer in the league beyond those few years he already probably will get anyway.
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I tuned out after December in 19-20, visually what did he look like that season? Watching Blackwood more closely the last few years even when he has good games there is still a lot left on the table. Barely getting a piece of a puck to make the saves (because he is often late to his position), leaving big rebounds that end up not getting pounced off.

That’s part of the reason goaltending is often noisy from a numbers perspective. Over a short time frame a goalie can get lucky, but still not be mechanically sound for long term success. Evaluating goaltending isn’t voodoo, but it is something that needs to be scouted with a close eye combined with numbers.
 
Devils731 said:
If McLeod isn’t playing, and I assume he isn’t, then you might go 11/7. Rest the defenseman that is most banged up and play Smith and Hughes. Smith can mix in at forward of the game is going well.
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haula probably draws back in
 
SteveCangialosi123 said:
The biggest takeaway from this one is that Jack is fully back. He was awesome against the toughest opponent possible.

This was a game where Wood’s supposed “playoff style” would play up and he was out attempted 17-2. We don’t need this man in the lineup.
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I thought Wood/that line were good early on, at least in the 1st period.

Didn't notice them at all after that.
 
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