Confirmed Signing with Link: [WSH] F Alex Ovechkin re-signs with the Capitals (5 years, $9.5M AAV)

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Bad deal for the Caps. Ovi might be worth 9.5m now, but even that is questionable, and his level will surely recede. Towards the end of the contract, the Caps could very well be looking at paying a 25+20 type of guy that much money for a couple seasons... not optimal for team building.
 
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There's np at all. Literally none of his career has anything to do with being in his late 30s. He's one of the best of all time. He's done insane things as have all of the other best of all times players. What those GOAT's did before their late 30s had no bearing on what they did in their late 30s and early 40s

So likely is the perfect word to use. You can make a likely prediction based on 99.99999999999999% of all players ever including all the GOATs

Get ready for a tasty crow dinner. So far he has shown zero signs of slowing down as a goalscorer. Obviously he'll dry up eventually but this season likely isn't it.
 
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Anyone who has seen Ovi now realize that he's basically a stationary 40-goal machine at this point. And shots don't get worse with age, it's mostly skating and stamina and since Ovi doesn't skate he doesn't need stamina.
 
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Bad deal for the Caps. Ovi might be worth 9.5m now, but even that is questionable, and his level will surely recede. Towards the end of the contract, the Caps could very well be looking at paying a 25+20 type of guy that much money for a couple seasons... not optimal for team building.

can say that if you look at just the contract (36+ player for 9.5 mil for 5 years) yea its probably not going to look so great in the last couple but that doesnt matter. What is the benefit of getting rid of him now? If caps didnt give him that money he would have gotten somewhere, nhl/khl, whatever. So say they got rid of him, what then? all of the other star players contracts run 5 years too. Starting a rebuild now does what? I said earlier in the this thread, Ovi brought the cup. Me as a fan enjoying the last 5 years of his career where they will still be a playoff team almost every year, maybe all 5 if Samsonov progressess. Im good with it. I want to see him go for the record and if win another cup if possible but if not oh well. He can sit on the bench the last 2 years drinking beer and Im good with it.
 
Bad deal for the Caps. Ovi might be worth 9.5m now, but even that is questionable, and his level will surely recede. Towards the end of the contract, the Caps could very well be looking at paying a 25+20 type of guy that much money for a couple seasons... not optimal for team building.
When he signed his 13 year deal plenty of people said it was bad, look how that turned out. Some people just dont seem to understand that Ovi is not your typical player and all typical expectations should not be applied to him. Even with the drop off in play he is still worth $9.5m to this franchise, on the ice and off the ice. But judging by the contracts given out these days, i think $9.5 is more than reasonable.
 
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Get ready for a tasty crow dinner. So far he has shown zero signs of slowing down as a goalscorer. Obviously he'll dry up eventually but this season likely isn't it.
There literally no crow to even be had lol. I said it's likely he declines bc it is likely. You guys don't seem to understand what likely means. It doesn't mean I'm saying he'll definitely decline

I also said his overall game will likely decrease to a level where 9.5 is a significant overpay based solely on the on ice product. He can still produce goals and have this be true
 
I'd be more concerned about ensuring Ovi still has effective playmakers and impact players on his line five years from now to ensure he has the puck in the offensive zone, rather than whether Ovi will be able to make an impact when he has the puck. He can score seemingly-impossible goals and his shot looks as good as ever, but he's not a guy who can produce offensively with AHL plugs by his side (in a way that, say, Crosby or McDavid can to some extent).

Backstrom's game has never been based on speed, which helps, but there's a good chance a year or two from now neither he nor Kuznetsov are playing anywhere close to 1Cs on the team, and that could impact Ovechkin's production. That, of course, would hurt Ovi's chances of catching up to the Great One.

Without Ovechkin this team would be a rebuilder. Every $ of cap space spent on players not-named Ovechkin is to give an Ovechkin-led team the best chance of winning a Cup, and Ovi of making history. If two years from now Ovi did look like an anchor and the team wasn't competitive, I don't think paying him $9.5 million would matter as the team would be spending far below the cap as a rebuilder anyway.
 
When he signed his 13 year deal plenty of people said it was bad, look how that turned out. Some people just dont seem to understand that Ovi is not your typical player and all typical expectations should not be applied to him. Even with the drop off in play he is still worth $9.5m to this franchise, on the ice and off the ice. But judging by the contracts given out these days, i think $9.5 is more than reasonable.

Father Time spares no one. Given Ovi's trajectory, it seems implausible that he would be worth the money for the duration of the deal.
 
Anyone thinking this is a bad deal is absolutely nuts. Yeah it’s a high cap hit for an older player. But it’s Ovi. He rebuilt that franchise along side backstrom. Absolute legend and in my opinion the best goal scorer hockey has ever seen

he’s made hundreds of millions of dollars already in his life. If things go sideways I one hundred percent just see him and the caps mutually terminating the contract and then they begin building his statue
 
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Bad deal for the Caps. Ovi might be worth 9.5m now, but even that is questionable, and his level will surely recede. Towards the end of the contract, the Caps could very well be looking at paying a 25+20 type of guy that much money for a couple seasons... not optimal for team building.

Lets say you are right. Ov scores 25 goals in his last season. He is breaking Gretzky's goal record and retiring at the end of the season. Do you have any concept of how much money Ovechkin is going to make for the team and the league in that 25 goal season?
 
Backstrom's game has never been based on speed, which helps, but there's a good chance a year or two from now neither he nor Kuznetsov are playing anywhere close to 1Cs on the team,y.

A good chance? Possible, sure. But a good chance? Come on, bud. Given 82 game schedules, Backstrom is on a 9 season run of at least 50 assists per season. This past season was his most productive in his last 4. He was just voted best passer in the league by the players. You think there is a good chance in the next year or two that he is cooked? Thats just not realistic.

Sometimes its like people look at the age of a player and use that number to set the projections because its the main number that counts. Using that gauge Ovechkin should have been over the hill seasons ago.
 
Father Time spares no one. Given Ovi's trajectory, it seems implausible that he would be worth the money for the duration of the deal.

And yet, he’s worth the deal and way more because of the revenue he brings in. He basically is a money printing machine for the Caps, particularly as he closes in on Gretz.

Bigger troubles for contending are the pending departures or declines due to age for Carlson, Backstrom, etc.

Oh no, Ovechkin becomes Brett Hull circa 2002 Red Wings… how ever could a guy be worthwhile at that point
 
Bigger troubles for contending are the pending departures or declines due to age for Carlson, Backstrom, etc.

I am not sure how much the decline of those players is a threat to Ovechkin or the team. Backstrom slows the game down to his pace rather than trying to keep up with someone else's pace. He's always been that way. His skill set has not declined. Given full 82 game schedules he would have been on a 9 season 50 assist or more streak. The players consider him the best passer in the league based on polling. There is a long way from the best to average. Over the last 3 seasons Carlson has outscored every defenseman in the league by at least 30 points. I worry more about Oshie but he had his best production in his last 5 seasons last seasons. If Kuznetsov wants to be more than average Kuzy, Ovechkin and the team will only be better
 
With all the Meh players getting 5-6 million a declining OV will still be a better value down the road ...

Signed
An Isles fan that never wants to see his one timer from the side of the circle ever again ... I guess what’s a few more years
 
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The caps window for winning cups has closed. When players get older and/or more expensive, that’s not a good thing in a cap world. Washington has had 3 years of bowing out in the first round since there cup win. Washington will not be winning another cup for a very very long time.
 
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The caps window for winning cups has closed. When players get older and/or more expensive, that’s not a good thing in a cap world. Washington has had 3 years of bowing out in the first round since there cup win. Washington will not be winning another cup for a very very long time.

Glad to see you are so certain. Cup quality teams lose early all the time. Cup quality teams are left without a cup every season. The Capitals just finished tied for the division for the 6th straight year. Old players or not, they had a top 5 pp and a top 5 pk with rookie goaltenders. Several of their best older players had their best production in several seasons. All this was done in a really difficult situation to bring in a new coach and change a system. They hit an injury patch at the wrong time and lost. This includes being forced to use a goalie that had played 1 games all season.

The result of that is that they have no shot. Is that right? Ok
 
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Imagine hating on Ovechkin
No one is hating on the player but the contract.
Great 8 should've taken 8M per and it wouldn't really have been a discount. 6.5M x6 would have been a team discount.

This is more like the franchise player taking his team to the cleaners.
 
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No one is hating on the player but the contract.
Great 8 should've taken 8M per and it wouldn't really have been a discount. 6.5M x6 would have been a team discount.

This is more like the franchise player taking his team to the cleaners.
You cannot be serious
 
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No one is hating on the player but the contract.
Great 8 should've taken 8M per and it wouldn't really have been a discount. 6.5M x6 would have been a team discount.

This is more like the franchise player taking his team to the cleaners.

So that 1.5m extra from what you suggested is the deal breaker for you?
 
He signed for one reason and one reason only - to go after a record.

With that contract it handcuffs them from doing what is right for the front of the jersey and more for the back of the jersey.

Have at it, takes one Metro team out of the picture.
 
He signed for one reason and one reason only - to go after a record.

With that contract it handcuffs them from doing what is right for the front of the jersey and more for the back of the jersey.

Have at it, takes one Metro team out of the picture.

You watch. They win the division again this season. How many 40 goal scorers are making less than Ovechkin?
 

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