Confirmed Trade: [WPG/MTL] Sean Monahan for 2024 1st round pick and conditional 2027 3rd round pick (Mod warning OP)

[Canadienna]

Doubting the judgement of the jets pro scouts and management

So not looking inward then?

Cool cool cool.

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

Here to take my serving of crow. For sure thought monahan would get jets second plus maybe a b/c prospect.

Well done habs!

Super good asset mgmt getting 2 1sts for the same player! Legendary!

 

[thefutures]

That is bad lol

 

[Hunter368]

I think people are forgetting about how little cap space this move costs the Jets, who still have room to make more deadline moves.

I've stated that multi times, I'll evaluate this trade depending on how Chevy uses the rest of the cap space, bc adding Monahan is a plus but far from the big single piece Jets fans wanted and he alone isn't getting the Jets to the final. Chevy better use that significant available cap space to keep adding or this was kind of pointless. Chevy can still add 1-2 nice pieces, which is partly bc of Monahan's tiny cap hit, so he better do that IMO.

 

[thefutures]

But yeah I was wrong too

 

[Donner]

The first M

Also, HFBoards continues to overvalue late 1st round picks more than almost anything else in hockey.

GMs do actually

It's all opportunity cost

1st round picks are currency. Winnipeg could have spent their currency on a better player

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

Errrrr, that's odd. That's what were were doing. Speculating and giving our opinion. But we were called delusional, mocked incessantly, flamed non-stop, and told very sternly that we're dreaming if we think Monahan was worth a 1st. So, where were you to say the same in our defense before today? Riiiiiiight, nowhere to be found. Now you don't like us discussing this, eh?

What are you on about? I have no problem discussing it and absolutely no problem with Hans fans discussing it. As a Jets fan I think what the Jets gave up is just the normal price to acquire a 2c, especially in a year with very little centres available and a lot of teams looking for one. Its called supply and demand.

Ironically, what made giving up the Jets first a lot more manageable is the fact we have MTL’s 2nd round pick. Thos two picks will most likely only be 10-15 spots apart from each other. Even more ironic is the fact we acquired it in the PLD trade. With Monahan being the Habs 3rd best point producer, losing him will only help that 2nd rd pick become even better for the Jets.

All in all I think its a win win trade. Jets got what they needed, and MTL got what they wanted. Cheers!

 

[JustAHabFan]

This might be one of the worst over-priced move i can think of in a long time.


THANK GOD this trade happened after Lindholm was already acquired by the Canucks.

If this trade happened before Lindholms and it was the market setter, then Lindholm would have astronomically returned more.

Not only is it an over-payment, the Jets are over-paying for the wrong player, one of which has had major major injury concerns.

I watched virtually every single game Sean Monahan played as a Montreal Canadien and I absolutely would not have surrendered a 1st round pick to acquire him.

I am very surprised with your statement. Monahan has been one of our best player. He has played with AHL caliber players and he scored almost as much as Suzuki.

 

[Hunter368]

well at least we can end all the talk of an A or B level prospect being included for Monahan just because.

I'm glad this didn't cost one of the Jets top 5 prospects like some said. haha

 

[Flair Hay]

Way to turn a cap dump we already got a 1st for to another 1st lol
good trade for Montreal

the consensus here was Monahan would never fetch a first and when he did, a late first is now irrelevant, these boards sometimes
In the other hand, If Monahan stays healthy he will prove to be very helpful for the jets

Jets fans hate it mostly but it is what it is. Hopefully he fits well with Perfetti and Ehlers on what is basically the 3rd line. They don't need him to be a workhorse. Just an offensive guy with top six skill that can win matchups with good linemates

 

[Curufinwe]

The first M

GMs do actually

It's all opportunity cost

1st round picks are currency. Winnipeg could have spent their currency on a better player

Such as?

 

[innitfam]

Good job by Montreal. A bit of an overpayment by Winnipeg but the 2027 3rd is basically irrelevant anyway. Monahan can help them now and adds depth.

 

[LaP]

They are and they do. But IMO everything goes out the window if it concerns Habs players. They're all scraps, bums and overrated, don't you know? To think, a ridiculous number of them said Monahan was worth no more than a late 2nd, and reluctantly at that. Like there are tons of 60pt centers, great at faceoffs available for a 3rd round pick.

60 points is stretching it. Monahan career's average over 82 games is 57 points. So in a normal season where the player miss a few games he's more a 50 to 55 points player. Still 55 points player both in regular season and in playoffs are pretty much never available for a 2nd round pick.

 

[Mobiandi]

A 1st with no conditions on games played for Sean Monahan is careless

 

[FlameChampion]

The bonus for Montreal is that Hughes now has a retention spot for Allen, Evans, Armia etc that he probably thought he was going to have to use up on Monahan. So he’s going to get another asset when he moves another guy.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

I said he was worth a 2nd rounder, maybe a bit more. But thought a 1st rounder would only happen if the GM buying him was desperate.

Looks like I was wrong.

Good of you not to be a prick about it. I can see why your fanbase is so well liked.

As if a bunch of fans wouldn't have been jerkoffs about it if he hadn't gotten the 1st.

I didn't think he would personally. Good for the Habs. A 1st to take him and a 1st to flip him.

 

[Captain Mountain]

The first M

GMs do actually

It's all opportunity cost

1st round picks are currency. Winnipeg could have spent their currency on a better player

Who? The guys with NTCs? The guys who aren't available? Or the guys who aren't better?

 

[Lorenzo1000]

The first M

GMs do actually

It's all opportunity cost

1st round picks are currency. Winnipeg could have spent their currency on a better player

What player would that be?

 

[calder candidate]

If a secondary piece like Monahan gets you a 1st and a conditional 3rd in this market, what does that make top 4 dmen like Chris Tanev and Noah Hanifin worth?
Crazy.. just crazy.

The 3rd is conditional to winning the cup…
Tanev is likely worth 1st+3rd+4th
Hanifin is better and younger so it might be 1st +2nd +2nd if the team able to sign him and 1st+2nd+3rd if they aren’t…
That what other UFA D have received (Savard, Chiarot, Gavrikov) those are the comparable not Monahan…

 

[Twisted Sinister]

I'm glad this didn't cost one of the Jets top 5 prospects like some said. haha

You guys have an embarrassment of riches up front.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Very good asset management by Montreal, however if the condition for the extra pick is a 3rd four drafts from now if the Jets win the cup, it’s essentially Monahan for a 1st. Four years+development time might as well be a lifetime in sports, assuming that pick even turns into something useful.

No body cares about the conditional pick.

Habs fleeced the Jets and dunked on HFBoards by getting a 1st!

 

[DeletedUser539]

So not looking inward then?

Cool cool cool.

Monahan is not the center I would have targeted for a playoff run jets gave up a first for an early exit Monahan is slow and never was that good at defense he will pot some goals but provides not much else except good on special teams I guess... And you don't need to look inward to realize habs absolutely got a steal that's why habs fans are happy you got the best outcome and it's not like Chevy is some sort of trade stalwart

 

[Hunter368]

You guys have an embarrassment of riches up front.

Its not enough, even adding Monahan, Jets need to use our cap space and part of Monahan's value is his tiny cap hit.

 

[Frank Drebin]

I would have taken a third!

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Market has been set for the deadline. Sellers are going to cash in.