Would YOU move Carlo for Landeskog?

[GarbageGoal]

Nope.

People can whine all they want about us not scoring, but the defense is in rough shape too. We cannot be moving a potential defensive stud with Chara on his way out.

 

[mjhfb]

When your team has too many centers,
you don't trade a solid young defenceman.

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

When your team has too many centers,
you don't trade a solid young defenceman.

Landeskog is a LW, but you are still right.

 

[Saxon Eric]

Nope

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

No, no, no. 1,000x no.

Carlo and McAvoy must be kept. Any other prospect can be moved.

 

[jgatie]

They should never have traded Dougie Hamilton. If he wasn't happy you do what Tampa did with Drouin, "take a seat". Dougie had no leverage. Would all you trade Seguin trade Hamilton fans feel better if both these guys were in the lineup? Two bad trades that is effecting your team now.

So instead of getting multiple picks in the deepest draft expected for a while, you sign him to a high cap number in order to stave off the offer sheet, and then don't play him?

My, I'm surprised no one has called you to take Sweeney's job!

 

[nORRis8]

Voted no.
Chara ? Yes. Day and night baby.

 

[ODAAT]

Mentioned it in another thread, just food for thought

Tim Schaller- 12 pts

Landeskog- 13

Pass big time for this fan

 

[JEM28]

I would pass on this proposed trade.

I'd instead move Krejci for a bag of pucks, start playing Morrow more, stick with CMill, and let KMill, Quaider and Liles rotate to the bench.

I'd also look at moving other vets for picks or prospects...even Bergeron, although I suspect we'd be selling low. If the team tanks the rest of this year, I'd be ok with it, and would expect to stink next year as well, as I introduce additional rookies into the mix.

I would target a return to the playoffs in 2018-2019, maybe '19-20 if I can't accelerate the team's improvement.

All the while I'd be thinking, jeez, if I did this 2 years ago we'd just about be turning the corner. After all, we didn't make the playoffs despite "quasi-going for it"

 

[Greek_physique]

Mentioned it in another thread, just food for thought

Tim Schaller- 12 pts

Landeskog- 13

Pass big time for this fan

This is an actual reason for you? I'm sorry, but that's why players get traded...because they sometimes struggle and a change of scenery is required.

Why do people feel we're getting an aging Iginla instead of a 24 year old player entering his prime?

Also, how long do you want to sit and wait for these 4 potential first rounders to develop? And what are the chances they all do.

 

[Greek_physique]

I would pass on this proposed trade.

I'd instead move Krejci for a bag of pucks, start playing Morrow more, stick with CMill, and let KMill, Quaider and Liles rotate to the bench.

I'd also look at moving other vets for picks or propspects...even Bergeron, although I suspect we'd be selling low. If the team tanks the rest of this year, I'd be ok with it, and would expect to stink next year as well, as I introduce additional rookies into the mix.

I would target a return to the playoffs in 2018-2019, maybe '19-20 if I can't accelerate the team's improvement.

All the while I'd be thinking, jeez, if I did this 2 years ago we'd just about be turning the corner. After all, we didn't make the playoffs despite "quasi-going for it"

Come to think of it...the Bruins mediocrity is caused by a plan that was seems like it was designed to deliver mediocrity!!!

Step away from the computer and get back to playing NHL2017.

Do you know how difficult it actually is to complete a 'full rebuild'? Just talk with some Edmonton, Toronto or Florida fans.

This team has no reason to blow things up.

 

[bizman]

Trade Zboril and the fringe prospects. The main guys should be given as much time as needed to develop.

 

[JEM28]

Step away from the computer and get back to playing NHL2017.

Do you know how difficult it actually is to complete a 'full rebuild'? Just talk with some Edmonton, Toronto or Florida fans.

This team has no reason to blow things up.

wait, that was a good one, let me get it together before I respond.

 

[JEM28]

Step away from the computer and get back to playing NHL2017.

Do you know how difficult it actually is to complete a 'full rebuild'? Just talk with some Edmonton, Toronto or Florida fans.

This team has no reason to blow things up.

NHL 2017...haha. That's a good one. Tell it again, soon, please, so I can pretend to laugh again.

Did I say full rebuild? A full rebuild would be dump Bergie, dump Rask, dump Marchand, etc. No one is suggesting that, but you have to be open to moving value for value.

Point is the FO has attempted the bandaid approach, and to use your rhetorical approach, do you know how difficult it is to get anywhere in the NHL with the approach the front office has utilized? If you're ok battling for 7th or 8th in the conference, maybe making it, maybe not, then yeah, it's a great strategy.

To be a contender you need more than neosporin and gauze.

Thing is I understand the drivers bhind that approach. Tanking means lost revenue. Going for it means depleting your prospect pool/trading away picks. Very hard to pull off what they're trying to pull off and so far it hasn't worked.

 

[AM Bruin]

Trade Zboril and the fringe prospects. The main guys should be given as much time as needed to develop.

I'd be hard pressed to determine which prospect is fringe or "main". Would you have put Carlo in the fringe category before this season?

I'm unwilling to trade ANY prospect without making damn sure there's depth in that position

 

[BRUINS since 1995]

Step away from the computer and get back to playing NHL2017.

how difficult it actually is to complete a 'full rebuild'? Just talk with some Edmonton, Toronto or Florida fans.

This team has no reason to blow things up.

Rebuild! Not inly the teams you mentionned. I was Nordiques fan at the time. Can tell you when they blowed it up, Hunter etc... even for Sakic at the time, took 5 years to come back competitive.

If kids are good ala Carlo etc... they will play. If core aging players are still your best players, after almost 10 years, it means draft did not work as anticipated.

Rebuild needs high picks, chance, very good scouting etcc. Not as easy as some are pretending.

Remove Dk, PB and Chara for picks. And let see how everything goes.

This team need one or two pieces and everything csn change. Refer to march 2011 with Kelly and Peveley.

I believe they have a chance going in po. LA won entering 8 th seed. In po, anything can happen. Puck luck. This actual team is snakebitten and has for a time now.

 

[AM Bruin]

I'd be hard pressed to determine which prospect is fringe or "main". Would you have put Carlo in the fringe category before this season?

I'm unwilling to trade ANY prospect without making damn sure there's depth in that position

I should have also stated that depleting one area to fill a need elsewhere gets you back to where you were in the first place. Looking for help...

 

[bizman]

I'd be hard pressed to determine which prospect is fringe or "main". Would you have put Carlo in the fringe category before this season?

I'm unwilling to trade ANY prospect without making damn sure there's depth in that position

It was quite evident that Carlo was special. He was fantastic during last year's junior tournament. Bjork is another guy that looked real sharp. He's a keeper.

We have prospect depth at every position. Identify the guys most likely to make it and try and improve the team by dealing the others.

 

[AM Bruin]

It was quite evident that Carlo was special. He was fantastic during last year's junior tournament. Bjork is another guy that looked real sharp. He's a keeper.

We have prospect depth at every position. Identify the guys most likely to make it and try and improve the team by dealing the others.

Based on where they were picked in the draft, Zboril had the higher pedigree before Carlo beasted onto the scene. I guess your willing to make a semi informed decision based on projections that can be off. I'd hate to give up on Zboril before we know what we have.

Guys like Morrow, C. Miller are known quantities so I'd prefer working them into any possible trade. You'd probably have to sweeten the pot because more than likely the other team knows them as well

 

[bizman]

Based on where they were picked in the draft, Zboril had the higher pedigree before Carlo beasted onto the scene. I guess your willing to make a semi informed decision based on projections that can be off. I'd hate to give up on Zboril before we know what we have.

Guys like Morrow, C. Miller are known quantities so I'd prefer working them into any possible trade. You'd probably have to sweeten the pot because more than likely the other team knows them as well

This is why teams have scouts and player development programs. If the front office can't figure out a year or two after a player is drafted whether a guy fits into their plans or not then they' re not doing their job correctly. Yes some guys might take longer to develop but you should have a good idea who fits and who doesn't.

Zboril may have raw skills but I can't see him cracking a Clode lineup in the near future. Too many poor decisions. Lauzon and O' Gara are maybes. Gryz and Lindgren are too small to be effective.

 

[AM Bruin]

This is why teams have scouts and player development programs. If the front office can't figure out a year or two after a player is drafted whether a guy fits into their plans or not then they' re not doing their job correctly. Yes some guys might take longer to develop but you should have a good idea who fits and who doesn't.

Zboril may have raw skills but I can't see him cracking a Clode lineup in the near future. Too many poor decisions. Lauzon and O' Gara are maybes. Gryz and Lindgren are too small to be effective.

You think they've already determined Zborils place on the roster without any pro games under his belt?
That would be awfully presumptious and foolish on their part.

All I'm saying is, even if Zboril slots in as a second pairing on this team that's far more valuable than a Landeskog to me. But we don't know that yet and I'm sure the prognosis was at least a second pairing from what I recall.

 

[SpitfireIX]

I would do Carlo and Hayes for Landeskog. Colorado has to take some contract from us.

Carlo looks pretty good and I am a fan of the stay at home defense man. I think people are confusing his potential though. I think he is a less rounded version of Brent Seabrook at the end of the day. Seabrook has had some decent offensive seasons Carlo won't ever put up 40 points. Carlo will be a 20 to 30 point defense man and there is nothing wrong with that given his ability in his own end. You need players with Carlo's skillset. He is not, however, the coveted two-way franchise defender, Charlie McAvoy has the potential to be that type of player. Again Carlo has played well but even if he reaches his potential as a stay at home defense man, that player type is not more coveted than the a 20 plus goal scorer who is hard nosed and has a track record of leadership. I wouldn't trade McAvoy for Landeskog, especially considering the contract situation but I don't see Carlo surpassing Landeskog at any point in the near or slightly distant future even if he reaches his potential. Would you trade a young Nicklas Hjalmarson for Gabriel Landeskog? I certainly would. You can find good stay at home defense man.

I would also add that while I would do a one for one trade, adding in a 1st round pick and another former 1st round pick in Debrusk is over payment. Carlo for Landeskog straight up would be a good move. We aren't making the playoffs this year. We clearly need more scoring next year and the FA market is not the place to look for that. We also will have McAvoy, Zboril and Lauzon coming to camp to start their pro careers so we will have the depth we lacked this year next season.

2017-2018 without any further trades (maybe Sweeney finally does something)

Marchand Bergeron Pastrnak
Landeskog Krejci Backes
Beleskey Spooner Vatrano (Austin Czarnik as an extra)
xxxx - Moore - xxxx (Maybe Gabrielle?)

Chara McAvoy
Krug McQuaid
Zboril C. Miller

Rask
McIntyre/Subban

 

[Pia8988]

How long have people cried for Sweeney to get a top 4 D. The team drafted one and now they want to move him for a second line winger.

 

[ChargersRookie]

This is an actual reason for you? I'm sorry, but that's why players get traded...because they sometimes struggle and a change of scenery is required.

Why do people feel we're getting an aging Iginla instead of a 24 year old player entering his prime?

Also, how long do you want to sit and wait for these 4 potential first rounders to develop? And what are the chances they all do.

Who will wait to trade his offspring for help on defense? Right now and it was for a couple of games our D is Carlo. However young and proven to be he still is he IS doing it for the Bruins.

It is not for Roman Josi or the like that we are trading Carlo for here.

 

[OConnellsProtege]

How long have people cried for Sweeney to get a top 4 D. The team drafted one and now they want to move him for a second line winger.

This. Carlo isn't going anywhere.